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post #41 of 314
EVIL-SCOTSMAN, looks like in the UK. Contact trading standards and your VISA company, sent a letter to both. Alienware are not allowed to charge you a "restocking fee/administration charge" when they refund you- they have to give you 100% value of the laptop. You might have to pay courier charge back to them.

I had a similar problem -pushbike arrived damaged, refusal of refund, eventually accepted refund but wanted £100 or 25% value of bike as charges. Contacted TS and Visa and got a full refund, I only lost £30 returning it.
post #42 of 314
I am really disappointed...I did not expect this from AW...this is really really shameful.
post #43 of 314
Thread Starter 
well people. I know you all love your pc's, but now you know what Alienware is capable of doing to you.

Also on a final note, it must feel nice for a company to be able to ignore there customers who buy the most expensive machine that is/was available from them. Business must be great.

Emails take less than 2 minutes to write......
post #44 of 314
wow brotha, I am sorry to hear about your situation:/ I am not really active on the AW forums lately (too busy gaming CS:S) but I really feel for you. It is possible that as a company starts to really "blow up" they forget some of the tenets that made that company great. Sometimes in a business decisison to expand, one looses sight of the little margins that got them there (unique service, quality control, et al). My Alienware experience has also been far from perfect, but I have learned to accept it as it is. There are numerous small boutiques that are up and coming and they have the big red martian in their sights. My next purchase (late 06) will probably be giving my hard-earned money to the little guy that really appreciates customer service.

Though on another note, I cannot say that there are not amazing US AW reps here on this board. I am in no way undermining the few hardworking examples of quality AW service, but I really feel for you man, and believe me..their inability to meet and exceed your expectations will be their mistake as this post will probably affect a "few" sales to AW bottom line. Good luck.
post #45 of 314
Am very disappointed in Alienware, but hoping Evil will not disappear from the community. He has a great wit, says it like it is, and knows his stuff on the technical side.
post #46 of 314
Well ES, coming in late to your thread, I just read it all and am pretty damn dissapointed in AW. After what has happened to you, I don't think you really have any other choice besides asking/getting a full refund....and getting a discount on upgrades is pretty much a slap in the face to you and all the other diehard AW ppl.

Like nassaumike and others, it makes me seriously think about the Aurora 7500 I had planned I getting soon...I was really contemplating staying tried and true with Alienware or going with a DIY with a smoothcreations paint job/window, I think my decision is made.
post #47 of 314
Ruxor, your avatar is great! Are you a fan of the show? I'd think you must be. Let me ask you, do you think Michael really was talking to Walt on the computer or has he started to get sick like Russo said they would?
post #48 of 314
ES, i really am disappointed especially as a new alienware customer. it makes me want to return mine. already my memory card reader is bad.
post #49 of 314
This is really sad. It makes you wonder how many of the complaints from new forum users were actually legitimate. I am sure some of them were trolling, but there have been more of those threads in recent times...

I have yet to deal with anything from AW dying but it makes me nervous because I dropped the coin on a 3 year warranty on my laptop.
post #50 of 314
WOW I feel for ya Evil. I myself can not say anything bad about AW they have been helpful all the way and I have been 110% happy with it and AW since I have had it. Never had a problem yet I hope this wont Jinx me (plus I got mine in the US)...

I do feel bad for you. Your story is an embarrassment to all the Alienware owners, I really hope they can do something about this. Best of luck...

Freak

shame... shame... AW (still love them though)
post #51 of 314
I think you are doing the right thing EVIL-SCOTSMAN! There apparently has never been any innuendo of abuse of the machine by you from Alienware and you have given Alienware a reasonable number of attempts to fix it.

I am really bummed about the apparent lack of communication from Alienware on resolving this professionally.

You should get 100% of your money back. With the refund of the original purchase price, an apology w/parting gifts from the Gear Shop would I think be appropriate and the right thing to do by Alienware.

Sorry man,

Zoid
post #52 of 314
By treating Evil this way, until recently a very loyal AW supporter, Alienware has managed to undermine all the good work Alien-Steve and the rest of the AW reps have done. It would have cost them very little to have replaced his machine and bought them tons of good will. It seem as if the individual customer has become less important as Alienware has grown larger. It's not too late for them to do the right thing. My 2 cents.
post #53 of 314
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
ES consider getting a Hyper as well. Their desktops look sweet. VooDoo also rawks.
Hyper maybe, but Voodoo?
post #54 of 314

Saving Face

Considering the size of this forum and judging by the amount of members, any negative situations such as this, I think causes the chance to create a huge exposure, providing a negative outlook upon the company in the consumer market. I would think this much attention would require some sort of move on the company's part, in order to show their customers that they care. In doing the research ahead of time, and seeing alot of experiences such as yours, made me change my mind on what computer to purchase. This reflects that situations such as this can actually cause the company to lose sales, although not on a massive scale. I'm not knocking alienware in any way, but from the outside looking in, say someone looking to purchase a new computer and reading about people's negative experiences like this, can definitely have an impact. I would hope they recognize this and do something to correct it.
post #55 of 314
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Originally Posted by ewolff
This is really sad. It makes you wonder how many of the complaints from new forum users were actually legitimate. I am sure some of them were trolling, but there have been more of those threads in recent times...

I have yet to deal with anything from AW dying but it makes me nervous because I dropped the coin on a 3 year warranty on my laptop.
A lot of the time the trollers are obvious due to claims that just don't make any sense.

This situation doesn't have any claims of the machine arriving with peanut butter in the cd drive, or claims of tech support calling someone's mother a monkey.

I think the assurances that the machine would ship, causing ES to take time off work to be able to receive it is really bad as it cost him wages. And the value of free labor for upgrades isn't likely to be used as it's likely ES would do that himself anyway.

I do know the warranty states after a reasonable amount of attempts to repair, the customer is entitled to a replacement machine, or a full refund at Alienware's discretion.

Is the machine back with them for the third repair now ES?
post #56 of 314
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Is the machine back with them for the third repair now ES?
affirmative.

the last straw was being told one or both my video cards are damaged, it looks like one but they testing the other, I always presumed mobo was damaged and it was, but for the vid cards to be damaged aswell was it, along with there leet offer of not free labour for fitting a payed for upgrade but a "REDUCTION" of labour costs for fitting any upgrade that i bought, but what you said above hammer is correct, i would fit any upgrades myself and they would still be under warranty if the upgrade was bought from AW, thus it would cost me nothing anyway to fit a upgrade, so that offer was kinda pointless.

But what has impressed me is the fact that not one single person has jumped on me or flamed me for posting this, I thank each and everyone of you for the kind support shown and the loyalty to a fellow nbf buddy, never in my wildest dreams would i think that all of you would come out to back me up, I had premonitions that I would be burned to death soon after posting but that hasnt happened for which i am entirely greatful to each and everyone of you for, and that goes for the Die hard AW users who wouldnt say a bad word against AW but have shown there support for me.

cheers
post #57 of 314
Evil -

Those of us who have frequented this forum over the past 6 months - year are well aware of the value you've added to the community. Also, even though you had problems with your system, you were ever hopeful of getting it fixed and were often supportive of others with issues.

This is the difference between your situation and someone who's first post is "Alienware Sucks." You've given Alienware every opportunity, and haven't bad-mouthed them during the process. I'd guess we all feel you have, unfortunately, earned the right to feel the way you do. Just goes to show this isn't a group of mindless AW fanboys.

Wishing you all the best and hoping like Hell someone from AW steps in and rescues the situation (knowing that is not what you are expecting or asking for).
post #58 of 314
Quote:
Originally Posted by EVIL-SCOTSMAN
affirmative.

the last straw was being told one or both my video cards are damaged, it looks like one but they testing the other, I always presumed mobo was damaged and it was, but for the vid cards to be damamged aswell was it, along with there leet offer of basically nothing as what you said above hammer is correct, i would fit any upgrades myself and they would still be under warranty if the upgrade was bought from AW, thus it would cost me nothing anyway to fit a upgrade, so that offer was kinda pointless.

But what has impressed me is the fact that not one single person has jumped on me or flamed me for posting this, I thank each and everyone of you for the kind support shown and the loyalty to a fellow nbf buddy, never in my wildest dreams would i think that all of you would come out to back me up, I had premonitions that I would be burned to death soon after posting but that hasnt happened for which i am entirely greatful to each and everyone of you, and that goes for the Die hard AW users who wouldnt say a bad word against AW but have shown there support for me.

cheers
You're good people ES, you're obviously not a troll. I think everyone here is upset about this situation.

I think this forum tends to be pretty level headed, and only occasionally jumps on someone that may not deserve it. I've seen many people get help here, and for the most part unless someone is overreacting or making stuff up, I think most of us here want to help others have the kind of experience we've had.

I've also been surprised by those of us here that have had problems, like Red, Shazza, and Aurora. Judging by the way they talk about their experience in getting their issues resolved, they must have had a very different experience than you considering that I've seen them discuss their issues, and still recommend AW. I have yet to see AW abandon a customer, though I've seen a few customers go elsewhere for less reason than you have.

Are you dead set on a refund for real, or is there anything AW can do to resolve this at this point? Third time is a charm they say...

It sounds likely that this repair cycle will include at least the psu, mobo, and more than likely both video cards. The only thing left I'd worry about would be the memory, and that's easy to test. I've never heard of a psu damaging a hd or optical drive but I suppose it's possible.

It would be cool if AW could take care of the repairs and figure out a way to give you a deal on upgrading to dual 512 7800GTX's. I don't blame AW for the hardware failures, they don't make the hardware, and the back and forth shipping and labor under warranty isn't making them any money either, but they certainly should have provided you with accurate information regarding shipping dates (and apologized for the miscues), and at this point with your repeat issue, they should be giving you special attention with expidited service and if there's any question about a component's reliability, it should be replaced.

The real problem with these kinds of situations for me would be that you bought state of the art, but by the time they get it working right it won't be anymore. I'd think working out a deal on upgrading the vid cards would go a long way in regards to calming me down personally.

Do you know how AW Ireland is organized? Do they set their own policies, or are they under direct control and supervision from AW America? And do they have a Critical Issues Team in Ireland?
post #59 of 314
Thread Starter 
Hammer I dont have a clue asto how they run the Ireland branch, but I do know that contacting USA AW reps is useless as they always say for me to get in touch with European support as they have more power/authority or maybe just more information, i really dunno.

As i said in a previous post, I cant understand why AW didnt pick up on the bust psu the first time they had it, as I noticed dodgy voltages from about the first few days of getting the pc, and as you say If I did continue with them letting them repair it, it wont be state of the art no more, not that pc's last long at the top, but I have yet to truly experience my pc.

I would not be happy with a upgrade to 7800 512s as my 2 7800 256 were quit capable, what I would like is a refund, so that I can use that money to buy another pc with fx60 and either sli 78s 512 or the upcoming 79gtx and I would probably get it for roughly the same price, maybe I would have to add some more cash, no big deal.

The reason that I dont want the pc back is, the fact that it has nearly everything replaced in it and it is only 6 months old. That does not inspire confidence that it will work any better than the previous times they repaired it, for example, when I returned the pc to them just before xmas, there was nothing wrong with the video cards, as soon as i got the pc back the video card or cards were messed up, now how come they didnt spot that at the factory as it only took me 5 minutes to spot due to black screen while installing updated drivers ? The dude even said we are testing the pc more than usual to make sure it hasnt got any problems when it comes back to you. So if that is the quality of there testing then what can I say.

hell, I even posted about the v card problem when i made the thread about getting the pc back, and that was after the pc was left to settle to room temp and then I booted her up to see that the very first time i powered it up after getting it back.

The situation is, I dont want the pc back, they have not contacted me after I gave them a deadline to respond, 2 emails went unanswered, even tho the person said to me, if you phone AW regarding your pc, phone me or email me as I am in charge of overseeing your pc, so I email him and he didnt respond to the deadlines, I have all the emails saved so if they dispute it then I have proof.

The only way they could even think about keeping me as an AW owner is for me to get the best rig that at this moment in time they produce, alx is out of the question as they dont do that here. As i see it, 6 months is enough to make anyone pissed off with any company for not pulling the finger out and getting shit done. I even have a newish cdrw that I put into the pc which is with them, they can even throw that out aswell.
Dont think that I am asking them for any type of free upgrade, as I am not. I have asked for a refund and the ball is firmly in there court and will probably stay there, as i will not ask for any type of upgrade, the only thing I will ask for is a refund, if they want to come back with a offer, it sure a fuk better be a magic one if they dont want to loose my £3000

As i say, if they were interested in keeping me as a customer then I would of heard from them, as it stands now, I havent heard from them and since I have not had a reply, I sent the dude an email saying first thing monday morning I will be phoneing and demanding a refund.

thing that makes me even more pissed off, is the fact that this austraila dude who probably only had software problems with his AW pc, contacted there head office and a few other things, and got an upgrade to the m7700, and upgraded cpu from 3.2 to a 3.6 and a upgrade of a 7800gtx go from a 6800ultra go, and there was probably nothing wrong with his hardware, the problems he was facing were BSOD with nv4disp error and as we all know that is nvidia driver error, but yet he got a fuxing uber leet deal, yet I have all the shit go wrong with mine and they wanna fux me some more by saying, we will give you a reduced price for installing components that you buy.

he wrote to a magazine about the issue and this is how he gets repaid, maybe i should of done that, but I couldnt be arsed with doing that.

but all it boils down to in there view, is that I am probably one of those nightmare customers who complains at everything, well AW, this is the first time I have had to do anything like this with anything, sure Ive had broken stuff, but it was always replaced with working stuff or refunded, and never ever took 6 months to still be in a unworking state.

Dont get me wrong, when i was on the phone with them they have always been willing to help and been polite, but they dont seem to be communicating properly between departments, and thus it is me who has had to suffer, not AW...

Also, a deal to me means cheap components, I should not have to buy anything for that pc to get a goodwill gesture, especially after 6 nightmare months with it, and being told all my problems were software related and would be fixed probably by a microsoft update when it ever got released or a new bios, also whenever it got released.

If I worked at AW, I am 100% positive that I could do a shitload better job than most of them do, as pc's are my life, to most of them its probably just a job/income. I would do it right 100% of the time, as I would actually take pride in making a pc for someone, as I have did so in the past many many times, to them i get the feeling that they think, so what if I dont do this properly its not my pc, i aint buying it. = wrong attitude to have.

Also for the last few days, I have had sore guts and headaches, probably due to stress as I cannot stop thinking about wtf is happening and it has stressed me out bigtime, that is no shit, I have never ever had sore guts like this before and it only started on thursday when I got that gay email from them...
I am worrying that I am gonna be lumbered with a piece of shit pc that is fuxed up and leave me 3k in debt, cuz i have a feeling they will try there best to stop me from getting a refund.

sorry for ther long post but tension is building and i think am gonna fly to ireland to kick ass, to me thats the only solution that i can see.
post #60 of 314
Take em down ES!
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