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Fujitsu N5010 --A Brief Review

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I hope I get this right, I'm a newby here --my first post, but thought I'd join the discussion about the N5010 if that's OK. I pre-ordered a Fujitsu N5010 through Global Computers Laptops Inc. around the first of December. I received it yesterday (1-5-04). I bought the same configuration as jmkay03, (P4 3Gig, DVDRW....) except I did upgrade to 768 megs of memory and an 80 gig 5400 HDD. I would have opted for the 60 gig 7200, but I needed the extra space. I initially began browsing the forum because of the Sager 4780, which I was going to buy until coming across the 5010. I also have looked very closely at HP and Toshiba's 17 inch laptops.

After owning 7 laptops over the years I concluded that I just didn't like them and would not purchase another one --because of the screen. Small, pale, dull... Although the screens have gotten much bigger, still they still aren't as beautiful as a good quality desktop monitor. In the computer stores -they all seem to have that "laptop screen" look. I didn't care for the prospect of staring at one all day at work, let alone coming home and playing games on it or browsing the WEB. Although I have seen two screens that I actually liked (at Fry's) --the Fujitsu N3010 and a 16" made by Sony (I forget the model) Both very nice, but they had other features or limitations I didn't like. But then came the N5010. The specs on the screen were mezmorizing --600:1 contrast and 350cfm brightness. I couldn't pass that up, and I'm very pleased about the purchase. It's a scary thing buying a laptop you've never seen, esp. dropping $2170.00--takes faith, or at least a good return policy. My first fear was with the whole dead pixel issue. But then the rep at Global computers told me they have "the best dead pixel policy on the planet. One bad pixel anywhere, and we'll replace the screen." They are both a Fujitsu Reseller and an authorized Fujitsu repair center. So I trusted them, placed the order, and --here are a few comments about the computer itself:

Initial Observations -- When the unit arrived (I have plenty of pictures but don't know how to post them --If someone wants them or wants to post them, let me know; I'll email you some) I, like jmkay, noticed that it is a large unit. I expected that as they just don't put 16 inch screens on tiny laptops. It is a beautiful unit --black and silver styling with a solid look and feel to it. but then there's the screen. It's, well... perfect. After using it a while, I turned back to my 17" NEC monitor on my desktop (which I've always liked) and it looked dreary --dull and comparatively fuzzy. I'll never go back to a desktop. It is brighter than anything I've seen, but it's the contrast that is most noticeable. The blacks are completely totally black. The whites are bright and colors are vivid. There were no dead pixels anywhere (which is good as I would have returned it promptly). Overall, I was thrilled with the purchase.

28 Hours Later -- I've been using the N5010 all day and have had a chance to load in some graphics programs, a video editing program, and a few games. Here's what I've noticed:

Bluetooth --While the 5010 has great WI-FI built in (a+b and g), it has no bluetooth. In the end, no biggie --I popped in a new 3Com Bluetooth PCMCIA card (which slips completely into the unit and is virtually undetectable), and in a few minutes I had synched with my bluetooth cell phone (which has unlimited internet access) and can now surf the web anywhere I go. I'm writing this wirelessly on the 5010 now. Which leads me to the keyboard, which is the quietest I've had in a laptop. It is smooth and and responsive.

SD Slot -- I bought the MRS. a digital camera for Christmas (because I had been wanting one) which uses SD cards. The 5010 had a nifty card reader on the right beside the keyboard. I popped in the card and 80 photos popped right up. But beware, as it only reads SD cards and Sony memory sticks. If you have another kind of memory, you'll be out of luck (though you can cheaply purchase PCMCIA memory card readers to fit your needs).

HEAT -- I have noticed the unit warming up --the fans cycle on and off as needed, which are not bothersome or louder than other comparable units (in my opinion). As to the heat, I also have no concerns as it is not uncomfortably hot (at least not on my unit) and is what I would consider typical for a unit of this power and size.

GHOSTING --none that I have been able to detect. I play games with my kids so you may laugh at my selection. Barbie looks just fine, and Tombraider worked great as well. A brief stint with the Matrix game and StarWars Racer and they look and play fine.

Negatives -- 1. The keyboard is toward the back (as with most laptops) but because of the size of the unit, the "wrist rest" area is actually a little too large for my comfort. I would have preferred pop-out legs on the back to lift up the back of the unit a bit, but there are none. 2. Speakers. The speakers are clear and seem sturdy enough, but lets face it, they're tweeters. No Base. Zip, zero, nada. I've been spoiled on 5 point surround sound and hefty subwoofers for too long. However, a quick hook up to desktop speakers or an inexpensive pair of earphones and problem solved. Still, a subwoofer would have been nice. I would suggest Fujitsu put one in the included power adapter; it already weighs about 30lbs, so what will a few more matter? 3. Stickers. I know this is a small gripe, but they put more stickers on this thing than a race car. Getting them all off without leaving that sticky glue all over the surface was a bit of a hassle. 4. Integrated Floppy Disk Drive. What a complete waste of space. Does anyone use those anymore? Why, they could have added another tweeter instead.

Conclusion: Feel free to ask questions, as I have probably forgotten to mention many things. I haven't run any speed tests yet, but will soon. Overall, the concerns that I mentioned are all minor. The unit looks great, runs very fast, has a solid, quality feel to it, and has a screen like no other. While it's not a perfect laptop, it is the closest I've seen to date.
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post #2 of 147
Sounds like a happy camper. Congradulations, getting a new laptop and being really happy with it is one of the good things in life. Have to check this machine out.
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Wow. I just stopped by the Fujistu website and the version with 256 megs mem/40 gig hard drive is going for 1699. If I can find an out of state place to buy this from it'll only be 150 bucks more to go from myh Toshiba 5205-S119. Man, two weeks left to decide....

Lee, the screen shows NO ghosting right? Do you have Unreal tournament 2003 or maybe the vernerable Q3 to test it on?

Do you have a link to the vendor you purchased it from?

Man, this laptop loos REAL nice.
post #4 of 147
Nice Review LeeT:

It seems that "Global Computers Laptops Inc" Pixel Policy is better than that from Fujitsu itself. Fujitsu's policy is as follows:

During the standard warranty period of the product, Fujitsu PC
Corporation (FPC) will consider the LCD defective if:
More than one abnormal pixel appears in Zone A or (Center)
More than three abnormal pixels appear in Zone B or (outer)
More than three abnormal pixels appear on the entire screen.

I am glad that you pointed that out.

Maybe someone will be kind enough to tell you how to post the pictures. I know you can do it. I just don't know how. Great Review.

Later
KP
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Originally Posted by kevhuynh
Wow. I just stopped by the Fujistu website and the version with 256 megs mem/40 gig hard drive is going for 1699. If I can find an out of state place to buy this from it'll only be 150 bucks more to go from myh Toshiba 5205-S119. Man, two weeks left to decide....

Lee, the screen shows NO ghosting right? Do you have Unreal tournament 2003 or maybe the vernerable Q3 to test it on?

Do you have a link to the vendor you purchased it from?

Man, this laptop loos REAL nice.
The link is www.laptopsinc.com. I'd buy the 5010 in less than a heartbeat if it had a 128 MB ATI 9600.
post #6 of 147
LeeT:
I see you took the plunge in with me as well..After talking with Fujitsu representatives about the vastly new 5010 and its comparison to the N3, I was sold!
Does your laptop seem to run rather sluggish after you exit your games?
I'm wondering if there is something defective in my laptop, as mine seems to..
I suppose I can return the laptop anyway as I have one small dead pixel - Which I suppose wouldn't be a bad idea anyway..
I really would hate to get rid of this machine, as I find it spectacular just as you do!
I also wish that there was some way I could detect the temperature this thing is running at, But have found no software that supports this laptop (I've tried MBM and AIDA32)
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, But I'll definatley have to look into this..
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Jmkay03 --I did appreciate your review --as I still had not received mine yet and there was nothing onthe web yet about the 5010. As to the heat, I really don't think its any warmer than its supposed to be, although I think the heat seems more noticable because the exit vent is on the left side of the unit. Whenever I inadvertantly put my hand in that area, I notice the heat being blown out of the unit when the fan kicks in. I think if they had placed the exit vent on the back, blowing the warm air out the back, I would never even notice. Still, I think it is a very good idea for Fujitsu (and anyone manufacturing DTR notebooks) to put internal temp sensors in their units. If you call Laptops Inc. you might ask them about your heat concerns and see what they say.

As to the sluggishness after games, --no, I haven't noticed anything but I haven't played many games yet. I'll keep an eye out and let you know.

As to KPEddison's post about the dead pixel policy --I noticed that as well last week while awaiting the arrival of my 5010. I conclude that Laptops Inc. can adopt whatever policy they wish as a VAR for Fujitsu, but what thier salesman told me on the phone sure desn't match Fujitsu's policy. If I were you jmkay03, I'd give Laptops Inc. a call and verify their policy, then tell them you bought one last week and it has a dead pixel. Of course if it isn't noticable during daily use, it might not be worth the hassle of sending it back. Still, I'd be curious to hear another verification of their policy, as they did not send me anything in writing.

Jswriter -- I still haven't seen ghosting, but I'll try a few more games (I'm afraid I don't have the ones you mentioned) to see if I can detect anything abnormal. I still have pics ready to email if someone is interested in posting them. http://talknotebooks.com/newreply.ph...te=1&p=127126#
Stick Out Tongue
post #8 of 147
1.73" thick? 10.34lbs? this thing wasn't quite designed for mobility was it?!

very powerful lappy though, and i think the screen beats that of the Area 51m
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Yes I believe it does Storm,
As far as weight, Yes, But remember its a 2.8-3.0Ghz Processor with Hyperthreading.

An update: Things are running flawlessly...I've recently installed all of my drivers and devices that I needed to, and am enjoying every minute on this machine..
Just started burning some DVD's and no complaints here..
Although I do miss the speed of my desktop CD-R (52x compared to now 16x), It'll just give me a good smoke break!
post #10 of 147
Hi Everyone:

I Emailed Global Computers/Laptops Inc twice (two separate Emails) so I could verify in writing exactly what their Pixel Policy was. The results were excellent. Just like LeeT said, thanks. (I never doubted you LeeT, but I just wanted to see it in writing since it sounded too good to be true). Please see both direct quotes below.

Question:

A friend of mine just bought a Fujitsu N5010 16". When I asked him about
your Pixel Policy he said that the rep said:
"One bad pixel anywhere, and we'll replace the screen". If so I'm about
ready to place an order. Could you tell me if this is true.

Response 1:
As stated in your quotes that is our Pixel Policy. We have a no tolerance
policy for Bad Pixels.

Best Regards,

Jason Snyder

Response 2:
Dear sir, we have a 100% customer satisfaction policy instate here, so
we do what ever it takes to satisfy the customer.

Ivan Gospich


Result:
Global Computers/Laptops Inc has a better Pixel Policy than Fujitsu itself. Also they offer upgrades for hard drives and memory. I have not purchased from either company so all I know is what is written above. I thought some of you might appreciate the information so I am passing it on. Once again thanks to jmkay03 and LeeT for their reviews.

Take care all
KP
post #11 of 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmkay03
LeeT:
I see you took the plunge in with me as well..After talking with Fujitsu representatives about the vastly new 5010 and its comparison to the N3, I was sold!
Does your laptop seem to run rather sluggish after you exit your games?
I'm wondering if there is something defective in my laptop, as mine seems to..
I suppose I can return the laptop anyway as I have one small dead pixel - Which I suppose wouldn't be a bad idea anyway..
I really would hate to get rid of this machine, as I find it spectacular just as you do!
I also wish that there was some way I could detect the temperature this thing is running at, But have found no software that supports this laptop (I've tried MBM and AIDA32)
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, But I'll definatley have to look into this.
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jmkay03:

Here's another Temperature Monitoring App that might work on your notebook. It does have support for the Fujitsu Lifebook C2220. The thing is, is that this one isn't free. But you do get a 30 day trial to see if it works. Also if it doesn't work and you want to become a beta tester, I believe that they will give you a free license. It works well on my desktop and also works on some notebooks, and has many other features. Here is the link in case you or anyone else is interested. http://hmonitor.net/

Take care
KP
post #12 of 147
Thanks KP!
It monitors my hard-drive temperature at least (which I suppose is the really important one)
I'm really loving this machine..
Here's a direct e-mail from Ivan (Rep at Global Computers) and his statement when I e-mailed him regaurding my dead pixel:
"If you want screen replaced you will need to take it to the nearest service provider in your area for screen replacement or send it to us on your dime for replacement, no manufacturer will replace a single dead pixel out millions of them on a screen but we and other ASP's will do our best to make you happy."
Right now I'm trying to figure out how to make my nic stay online even while I close my laptop's lid..I've tried to disable XP to disable powerdown of the device, but it seems I still get disconnected upon waking up and opening the lid. Will take some investagation!
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Thank you for the review. It's helpful to know what others think since I don't live near anywhere that I can see the 5010 in person. Do you know what the viewing angle is on the Crystal View Screen? The MVA screen lists a 160 degree viewing angle in all directions, but the Crystal View Screen doesn't list any specifications. I know that the Dell Ultrasharp has a 140 degree horizontal viewing angle, but I think it's only 50 degree angle from above. I plan to do a lot of photo editing, and I hate for slight differences in viewing angles to alter my perception of the image.

Thank you so much for your review!
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Screen Angles

Huangn, While I don't know what the viewing angle is on the 5010, I must admit that I was suprised when I received the unit that is is no wider than it is. While you can still see the screen from various angles, the brightness definately degrades as soon as you are off center. This is not an issue with me, but I assumed that it was the same basic technology and would be about like the screen on the 3010. It isn't. This sreen is of course bigger, brighter, and has better contrast than the 3010 --superior in every aspect, exept the viewing angle just doesn't seem as wide to me. A final note --the thing is so bright that even off center it is still more beautiful than most notebooks. I took several photos of it from an angle and you'll agree that it looks very nice, but I still haven't figured out how to download them --sorry! Maybe tomorrow.
post #15 of 147
Just like LeeT said , the screen is amazing..The brightness will blow you away..
For a second opinion, Yes, the viewing angle gets dimmer - but that's about all that leaves when you change viewing angles is the brightness or contrast..
Comparingly, To other laptops I've seen in stores and dealt with, The viewing angle still smashes out the competition.
hope this helps some too
post #16 of 147
Thanks Good reviews,
I also ordered N5010 too after I checked it at J&R store.
The screen very impressed me. They showed N3010 and N5010 together. which for me the N5 screen was better and about angel view it looked the same.
Then I looked at sony GRT16" xbrite and compared with N5 seem more crisp it might because of contrast600:1 anyway I don't know the contrast spec of sony.
About the N5 heat when I typed on keybord I noticed it's quite warm as HPzt17".
hope I get it soon.
post #17 of 147
Thank you to LeeT and jmkay03 for your prompt responses, and to LeeT for your pictures. I emailed Fujitsu, who confirms that the viewing angle on the N5010 should be 160-170 degrees, which is similar to the MVA screen. Sadly, they also confirm that the Pentium M chip is unlikely to ever be offered with the MVA or ClearView screen, probably because such a screen isn't really made to conserve battery life. So now I'll have to decide if the beauty of the screen is worth being tethered to an outlet. You guys have almost convinced me that it is.
post #18 of 147
I just ordered the N5010 at laptopinc. It will arrive in two days. I'm going to take some more high definition pics of this beast once it arrives.

Thanks LeeT and jmkay03 for your input on this laptop. I do believe that the screen should be a very important factor in deciding which laptop fit your needs.
post #19 of 147
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Prozac, congrats on your purchase. I look forward to seeing you pics and hearing your thoughts when it arrives.
post #20 of 147
As do I..
I might be posting pictures once I get hold of the digital camera sometime..Just for the viewing pleasure.
huangn: I believe the whole weight think intertwines with the battery life, It's just a matter of if you actually *need* the mobility. I myself, a Freshman currently at a community college, wasn't expecting to be bringing it to class..(Possibly when I transfer which I've got some years I'd like to get rid of) and just knew I'd be around an outlet probably 90% of the time, So it equaled out rather well for me.
It is possible to bring this computer to locations and get yourself a document written, (I'd recommend a high quality case) but its possible. And I doubt anytime soon I'd need more then that
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