Does Dell offer AMD yet?

or inexpensive factory overclocked pentium4's either way works for me =D

I've heard that Dell decided against AMD due to supply problems, high failure rates, and the fact that Intel's roadmap leaves AMD in the dust. But I could be wrong.

Intel was definitely lagging with the P4, so Dell yanked their chain and it looks like Intel is finally cleaning up their act.

P-M/core/duo is basically equivalent to AMD on a cycle time basis, and better from a thermal perspective.

So, it looks like Intel is shrinking the die, moving away from the P4, adding gee-whiz 64-bit and FPU performance, and putting a bunch of cores on chip.

Frankly, nothing I run is CPU bound, but it looks like Intel will catch and pass AMD in the e-penis wars, which is why we all buy new gear, right?

Hey, I've got nothing against AMD, but I'm happy that Intel is closing the gap since Dell is basically Intel's retail outlet, and I get a bunch more bang for my buck from Dell than anywhere else.

I have zero AMD rigs, because Dell doesn't sell AMD rigs. If somebody else enters the market with AMD rigs with Dell's pricing, quality, and support, I'd probably switch in a nanosecond.

Dell, wont sell AMD. They and Intel are too entwined.
As for supply, thats a load. AMD already won lawsuits in Japan because intel was squeezing them out of that market illegaly, causing artificial lows in AMD supply there. They do that in a lot more markets though.
Im a AMD fan, but I will give that the Intel Duo Cores run multiple thread apps better than the X2 64's. Im still waiting for the M2 die, and see what magic thats supposed to do.

I would like to see Dell offer both, but it won't happen. Anyway, Intel is definitely closing the gap with the Core products. Also, roadmaps from both AMD and intel are showing some amazing hopes, with luck, both companies will put out great chips and it's a win/win situation.

Dell sells AMD processors on their home and small business website!!! They don't offer them in the systems yet though!

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...fe=&mnf=116&k=

I honestly believe Dell will not offer AMD due to lack of constant supply and the sweet pricing discounts that Intel likely offers Dell. In the Dell custom build option how rare is it to see one of the processor optiosn with a "may delay your order" tag other than when its first released? because Dell probably gets the first of every shipment on the list its very easy to see why Dell stuck with AMD especially for there server market. AMD on the otherhand while a great company doesnt have the capacity to support Dell like intel can. With companies like HP draining most of AMD's server CPU's I dont see how they plan to aid Dell in market conquest if they cannot ship enough chips for Dell to meet demand no?

Has anyone heard of IBM's Cell processor to debut in Sony's PlayStation 3. It is rated to run at 230 gigaflops vs P4 extreme edition 84 only at 26 gigaflops. When will this chip reach laptops and desktops? This chip would smoke both AMD and Intel's current chips. Is there a chance it would be compatable with Intel systems.

wouldnt count on it

Michael Dell, in Switzerland for a conference, was quoted as saying that his company does not have an exclusivity deal with Intel and they are open to the possibility of shipping inventory with AMD at it's core.....

To be honest, since the rumours started on this, the stockmarket has gone wild with anticipation of a merging of AMD and Dell. It was reflected in both AMD's and Dell's stock prices going way up, only to be shot down by CEO Kevin Rollins when he said that they were sticking with Intel. Only last week Intel posted poor earnings due to lack of chipset supplies getting to market, it seems that Intel are "on the ropes" when it comes to dictating roadmaps for future technology. AMD always seems to hit the mark in many areas such as performance, reliability and pricing. The very next day AMD posted healthy earnings which led to it's stock going up from $32 to almost $40 in a week. Intel's has declined by 13% in the same period. Seems to me that Dell cannot ignore it's stockholders for much longer. After all, it is in Dell's interest to meet targets, and that means earnings. I think the idea of Dell offering AMD systems in the near future is more fact than fiction. Only time will tell......

Of course, AMD's definition of healthy earnings is any profit at all, while Intel's definition of poor earnings would be not breaking records. And I doubt there will be any AMD product in the notebooks, not when Yonah uses half the power of a single core Turion.

AMD spends a good portion of there profits just trying to keep up with Intels Fab line With intel converting more of there fab lines to 65nm and one up and coming one to 45nm by the end of 2008 Intel will never have a supply problem if your talking about sheer volume of what they sell. Even though AMD profits more in the year end Intel wins simply because they have companies like Dell that will ensure they have a nice long future and can conintue to spend there profits on Better manufacturing process and R&D.

AMD doesn't pwn Intel in mobile performance unless your talking about compareing a desktop processor used in a laptop as being mobile performance. The X2 in a laptop runs hot, uses alot of power, and have you seen the current cost of laptop that use the AMD X2 CPU?. Intel's Pentium M style architecture is also faster clock for clock then AMD's A64/FX architecture.

You obviously havn't been around in the tech industry for very long if you dont realize that the performance crown ALWAYS changes from year to year. Sometimes its a longer spread when one company stays on top. Before the Athlon 64/FX line was released Intel was on top with the new Pentium 4 800MHz processors. The Athlon XP line could not compete with the Pentium 4 past 3GHz although they remained a viable option because they were cheap.

And they aren't going to because AMD can't meet the kind of demand that Dell would have if they chose to ship AMD processors in desktops and laptops. AMD is a small company compared to Intel and AMD can't afford to offer the kind of price cuts that Intel can ither.

The chip would be a flop (no pun intended) if used in a PC. Its not designed for handleing the tasks and functions of a fully rounded PC processor. It is designed to be very fast for very simple calculations such as geometry processing. Its a CPU designed for gaming alone. It would be like running a Pentium III or something for everything else. The IBM PowerPC based CPU with three cores in the Xbox 360 actually stands to be more powerful then teh Cell processor in the PS3 because its a more general purpose CPU and developers will be able to put the three cores (which each handle two threads) to full use all the time whereas with the Cell processor its going to be alot harder to make use of its design to its potential.

Over the past several years before the Athlon 64/FX line AMD had been running in the red as far as profit margin goes. AMD kept prices low to compete with Intel but in doing so they had little or no profit from their sales. They have since started to earn more of a profit as the A64/FX line has helped pull them out of the slump and given them enough performance that they can charge more for their CPUs but they still aren't able to compete with Intel in a price war. Intel can sell processors for less and still come out ahead if they wanted to.

I'm an AMD fan on the desktop and i've worked with several Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2 systems that i've built for myself and others and AMD has had a great product in the K8 architecture. Intel looks to however regain most of the performance they lost earlier with the Pentium 4 Prescott 90nm fiasco. On the mobile front Intel is still king with the Pentium M style architecture which uses very little power and provides alot of performance. If you slap a Pentium M processor on a desktop machine and compare it to an Athlon 64, the higher-end models like the 2.13GHz and 2.26GHz come out being comparable to an A64 4000+ and even FX-55 type processor in areas such as gaming because of the high IPC and the faster L2 cache.

Given where AMD is in its current products you won't see any AMD chips in Dell machines before AM2 sockets. However, even when those come, I wouldn't hold my breath. Dell loves to feed the rumour bunnies. It's good for stock pricing

From talking with many Dell people, the word inside that they have not gone to AMD is as above, supply is a concern. But mainly the cost of building up a new R&D section for that, plus the physical building process of a whole new line of PC's would be very costly. They can't just integrate AMD stuff into their current assembly lines, they would have to build new ones, or remodel an existing one. Plus, not many people are asking Dell to do that, just like Dell isn't asked to do a tablet pc, so they haven't built one. It is all economics to Dell.

I was talking about this with a friend over at overclockers.com and he had an article up. AMD is indeed popular but there FAB30 plant cannot handle a massive entitiy like DELL unless it was exclusive which AMD cannot afford to do. Keep in mind that it costs AMD a lot more to produce a single cpu then it does for Intel now knowing this we can all conclude DELL gets deep if not some kind of bulk discount thru Intel. First quarter AMD produced 9.5 Million CPUS (not including the 3 million used for ditribution and stockpiling) so thats 12.5 Million total Cpus produced of which they have sold 9 Million of the 9.5 now imagine because the stock of cpus are are so low how can they possibly supply DELL? Soon AMD's Fab 36 plant will be up by the end of 08 which will bring capacity up but also by then Intel will have had 2 FABS on 65nm where and another one in the transition where as AMD will have there first SOI 65nm along with FAB 36. They also announced a 3 month delay for there AM2 project which im sure some of you were thinking would be an excellent way to approach DELL with low cost system production. DELL I assure you sells a LOT of systems that can eat thru a small production figre of 9mil quick. If we assume AMD were to start shipping for DELL then you can be damn sure a good supply of the 9m chips will head over to Dell even if dell offered it in only 1 system and 1 cpu selection. AMD will hurt thier popular enthusiast sector by stripping online retial channel supply to appease DELL's orders. The thing DELL hates to most is not being able to deliver to a consumer via shortage. When ATI simply could not supply the volumes DELL wanted in there high end sector ATI was awarded with orders pertaining to there abundant and unpopular x300/x600 cores at the expensive of huge subsidy that Nvidia is probabaly award because they can supply DELL with adequite supply of mid and high end videocards. Same rules apply for RAM sine DELL awarded most of there ram subsidy to hynix and Samsung it makes it nearly impossible for infineon or micron to supply heavy orders so once again they get hit with the orders to fill in for replacement ram for repaired systems. If AMD spent a large sum of there money on another FAB then you can sure as hell bet AMD can take rise but it has to be done quickly or Intel will use there ace in the sleave to overthrow AMD and we all dont want a CPU monopoly.