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What happened here??? Shutdown problem?

post #1 of 18
1/23/06 at 10:44pm
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I have this question posted in the Toshiba Peer to Peer and not quite getting the answer I'm looking for, so please Go to this post in Toshiba:
What happened here??? Shutdown problem
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=129374

Any info appreciated. You can post it here or at that post.
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post #2 of 18
1/23/06 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by jack53
I just set it up in control panel that when I shut the lid it turns off... because if it happened once, it could happen again.

I will make sure from now on that the notebook is OFF before closing the lid from now on.
ok, so what was it set on in your Control Panel prior to this problem?

you've gotta make sure that you have the "When I shut my lid" option to Shutdown. and "When I press the power button" to either Shutdown or Ask What to do.

also, is your notebook functioning properly now?

if your laptop was still on while you had it in your backpack, it could've very well messed up your HD.
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post #3 of 18
1/24/06 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by EdoKoi
ok, so what was it set on in your Control Panel prior to this problem?

you've gotta make sure that you have the "When I shut my lid" option to Shutdown. and "When I press the power button" to either Shutdown or Ask What to do.

also, is your notebook functioning properly now?

if your laptop was still on while you had it in your backpack, it could've very well messed up your HD.
The only option it gives me in the control panel/battery control is "when I shut my lid" two choices, 1. None 2. Stand by.
It was and is set on None.

So far, I've used this notebook for several hours and it is okay. I just want to figure out what happened and make sure it don't happen again.
I will make sure it is completely off before closing the lid from now on though. (even though it SHOULD shut off when I close the lid!)
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post #4 of 18
1/24/06 at 11:13pm
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Anymore input on this?
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post #5 of 18
1/25/06 at 2:24am
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Originally Posted by jack53
The only option it gives me in the control panel/battery control is "when I shut my lid" two choices, 1. None 2. Stand by.
It was and is set on None.

I will make sure it is completely off before closing the lid from now on though. (even though it SHOULD shut off when I close the lid!)
if it is set to "Do Nothing" when you close the lid, then that is exactly what it will do...nothing.

it wont' shut off when you close the lid, i don't think there's even an option to.

what setting do you have for "when you press the power button"? i have it Ask me what to do.
but like you said, definitely make sure it's completely off before putting it in your backpack.

i'm still confused as to how it got turned on in the first place....but prolly closing it before it fully shutoff, made it somehow not shut off, or it was just one of those crazy laptop gnomes messin' w/ ya.

but if it's working for you now, then count your blessings.

do you notice any odd sounds the HD is making or anything out of the ordinary after that incident?
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post #6 of 18
1/25/06 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by EdoKoi
if it is set to "Do Nothing" when you close the lid, then that is exactly what it will do...nothing.

it wont' shut off when you close the lid, i don't think there's even an option to.

but if it's working for you now, then count your blessings.

do you notice any odd sounds the HD is making or anything out of the ordinary after that incident?
Well, it is strange it doesn't have the feature like Dells that turns it off when you close the lid.

I guess all I can do is make sure it is OFF before closing the lid.

I'm legally deaf, so I will have my wife listen. She doesn't know much about computers, so what should she be listening for?

Thanks for the input!
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post #7 of 18
1/25/06 at 10:13pm
A quick question. When ya'll say "Make sure it is off" before moving it, does "off" mean turned completely off or can you "hibernate" or "stanby" to save the hard drive from damage. Thanks
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post #8 of 18
1/25/06 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by bbboogie2
A quick question. When ya'll say "Make sure it is off" before moving it, does "off" mean turned completely off or can you "hibernate" or "stanby" to save the hard drive from damage. Thanks
I want to play safe and make sure it is OFF "completely off" before closing the lid. I've never used the Stand By mode. I figure either use the notebook or turn it off, less wear and tear on the notebook.
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post #9 of 18
1/27/06 at 12:54am
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Just curious, has anyone else had this happen to them?
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I wonder what happened here?
I was using the notebook at the Mall on battery and when I shut it down, (the usual start/turn off computer/turn off method) I closed the lid before it was fully shut off, (I assumed it was shutting off) and put it in it's sleeve and in the backpack. When I got home 40 minutes later and took the backpack out of the backpack and sleeve, I noticed that the notebook was very hot to the touch! Opened the lid and the on/off button blue light was on. So I shut it down. When I turned it on later, the battery was almost depleted.
Fortunately nothing bad came of it, but it makes nervous as if I hadn't taken it out when I did, it may have been damaged.
What happened here? Anyone know?
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post #10 of 18
1/27/06 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by jack53
Just curious, has anyone else had this happen to them?
So, I'm the only one that have this problem?
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post #11 of 18
1/27/06 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by jack53
She doesn't know much about computers, so what should she be listening for?
well, even on desktops the "usual" windows sound turns on when you first turn on the comp as well as when you shutdown.

however, even after it makes it's final "shutting down sound", the whole system is still in it's final shutdown phase.

so what i do, is make certain, my screen is completely off and the HD led is no longer blinking.

also, to answer bbboogie2's question...

last month, my HD was really acting up as well, and had my laptop on standby mode for most of the afternoon. when it came time for me to go home, i was in a rush, and didn't turn it off completely..i just left it on standby and put it in my back and went home.

well, either it was a major coincidence, or just my bad luck, but the hard drive really malfunctioned and i was dead in the water. it had a lot of problems prior to me leaving it in standby, but i think that was the nail in the coffin..ended up buying a whole new hd. it's running really great now..but a word of caution..

you guys should definitely make sure it's COMPLETELY off before moving it around. even tho it's in Standby, the hard drive is still technically On.

hope that helps.
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post #12 of 18
1/27/06 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by EdoKoi
you guys should definitely make sure it's COMPLETELY off before moving it around. even tho it's in Standby, the hard drive is still technically On.

hope that helps.
That makes sense as the HD is very touch about being bounced around even while off, so using standby should be a no-no while in backpack or briefcase.

From here on out, no matter how big a hurry I'm in, I will make SURE the notebook is COMPLETELY OFF before putting into my backpack.
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post #13 of 18
1/28/06 at 12:14am
I was curios about that because I had read somewhere (a few years back) that the hard drive should be "Parked" when being moved and it seemed like the article said that you could park it by Hibernating or standby or shutoff. Anyway, I will shut it off from now on.
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post #14 of 18
1/28/06 at 7:12pm
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Is there a difference between Hibernating & standby?

Is there a difference between Hibernating & standby
If so, explain... I've never used either so I don't have a clue.
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post #15 of 18
1/28/06 at 8:09pm
Standby: everything except the RAM is powered down. The RAM remains energized so it won't lose its data, and this draws a little power, which is why standby can only be sustained on battery for a few days. On the other hand, when you power it back up, it takes maybe 3 seconds for the computer to wake up.

Hibernate: contents of the RAM are written into a file on the hard drive. Then almost everything is powered down; I think some little things might not, but this is why hibernate can be sustained on battery for a very long time. On the other hand, it takes a while to enter hibernation, and to wake up, because of the time it takes to write date from the RAM to the hard drive and vice versa.
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post #16 of 18
1/29/06 at 12:07am
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Originally Posted by jack53
So, I'm the only one that have this problem?
Well, my Acer (in the sig) started misbehaving in a similar way some time ago, i.e. sometimes it did full shutdown as proper and sometimes it went all the way to turning display off and stopping HD but did not quite turned off (the power button was still lit). I guess one of the drivers or whatnot was the cause of it. Anyway, reinstalling Windows etc. resolved the issue.
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post #17 of 18
1/29/06 at 5:39pm
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Well, I sure hope I won't have to re-install windows...
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post #18 of 18
1/31/06 at 1:06am
hey, sorry for the late response...had a problem w/ posting on this forum...all fixed now.

i wouldn't think you'd have to reinstall windows again..that can be a pain.

if it is a driver, you can check your startup applications list to see if there's something starting everytime that shouldn't be...it could also be a driver conflict that's not closing down all the way either.

check your msconfig>system configuration utility>startup tab to see what's starting everytime on you.

uncheck what you don't use/need to start and see what happens from there.

how is your notebook behaving now?
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