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Dell E1705 Mxm?

post #1 of 21
1/27/06 at 9:46pm
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Is the E1705 MxM compatible? And if so, what type?
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post #2 of 21
1/28/06 at 12:15am
Compatible with what?

EDIT:- MxM = Mobile PCI Express Module ?
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post #3 of 21
1/28/06 at 12:20am
@digi
with mxm

@shine
No! Sorry
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post #4 of 21
1/28/06 at 6:13pm
omg is it not?? then you cant upgrade video card???? OMG THAT SUX!
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post #5 of 21
1/28/06 at 6:16pm
none of the dells are mxm, they are a proprietary dell form factor
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post #6 of 21
1/28/06 at 6:23pm
crap...Maybe I will not buy a i9400 after all then...
If for example GeForce Go 8800 comes out, I will not be able to upgrade my i9400 :/...that just sux
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post #7 of 21
1/28/06 at 7:06pm
mxm isnt the only laptop video card "standard"
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post #8 of 21
1/28/06 at 10:09pm
wut? isnt the 7800 GO that ships with the e1705 a PCI-Express?
Can't i fit any pci-e on?
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post #9 of 21
1/28/06 at 10:18pm
How can possibly not the 7800 go be a MxM? @ Dells order-page, it clearly says: "256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7800 Go graphics card, PCI-Express x16"

Isn't PCI-Express x16 MxM?
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post #10 of 21
1/28/06 at 10:54pm
No, PCI-E is PCI-E. MXM is what Nvidia proposed would be the laptop standard for grafix cards. ATi had thier own proposal too, forget what it was called, but neither of them are in laptops yet AFAIK.
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post #11 of 21
1/29/06 at 10:21am
So will I not be able to upgrade the GFX card on my new i9400 notebook if i.e. a GeForce 8800 Go is released?
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post #12 of 21
1/29/06 at 10:37am
That all depends on when the GeForce 8800 Go is released and whether or not is form-factor compatible with the Dell I9400, and whether the BIOS will support it ...
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post #13 of 21
1/29/06 at 12:19pm
Dell sucks for this sort of thing.. They want you to buy a new notebook instead of new parts : ( of course, but for the people who buy dells, ( non business) this is crippling us.
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post #14 of 21
1/29/06 at 3:36pm
Okay let me get this straight.

If I had a ASUS laptop WITH MxM, I would be able to upgrade to ANY new GFX card that comes out, it just has to be MxM compitable.

If I had a Dell laptop (i9400), which I've just ordered, WITHOUT MxM, I will NOT be able to upgrade to newer GFX cards when they are released.

Am I right?
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post #15 of 21
1/29/06 at 4:49pm
Actually, just becasue a laptop uses MXM cards i don't think it means you can jsut pop any MXM card into it. There are voltage and heat issues that could still prevent the card from not working.
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post #16 of 21
1/29/06 at 4:59pm
And there's the question of whether MxM will be widely adopted by laptop vendors (or the new ATi format that was mentioned) - as opposed to PCI-E, which is now an accepted standard.

The inability to upgrade across standards is a constant - witness graphics from pci to agp to pci-e, witness the MANY ram standards, witness the many many processor changes that require new boards.

Out of interest, how many MxM laptops are there, out there?
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post #17 of 21
1/29/06 at 8:37pm
And what exactly is the difference between the Dell E1705 video card interface and the one used in the Dell 9300/XPS2/M170? Those three all use the MXM interface for graphics cards and you can install any video card that uses the MXM interface. Thats why you can buy a 9300 with an ATI X300 or an nVidia 6800 and upgrade it to a nVidia 7800GTX. Are the new E1705 laptops using a different type of interface then? The Go 7800 should use the same interface as the Go 7800 GTX which is MXM.
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post #18 of 21
1/29/06 at 8:43pm
Then why does the ppl at dell say that you cant fit a GeForce 7800 GTX in a E1705? If the E1705 supports MxM why isnt this possible?
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post #19 of 21
1/29/06 at 8:50pm
I don't think its the interface, it has to do with the physical dimensions of the bay that takes the card. Different manufacturers use differing implementations of thermal designs to fit their notebooks. MXM and it's ilk were created, not for us consumers, but for the system builders to allow them to provide interchangeable parts for their product line. It helps to cut down costs of developing a new board for each graphics implementaion. Companies like Dell are charged with designing the thermal solution for each laptop in it's product range. They and only they can decide to release a new card with the proper cooling neccessary to fit the laptop. They may, or they may not!
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post #20 of 21
1/29/06 at 8:52pm
The XPS2, 9300, and e1705 do NOT have an MXM interface. MXM connectors are similar to mini-pci connectors (in that you insert at an angle then press down) but longer (more pins). The video card interface in these laptops is just press-down. You can only fit cards that are specialized for this laptop series.
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