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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I am soon to be in the market for a new display. I have recently upgraded to an X850xt in my computer, and am looking for a nice new LCD to complement it.

With my student discount, I can get a 23" Apple Cinema display for $1099, or I can get the Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24" display for around $900 to $1000.

Having never seen either of these monitors, and with not enough time to hunt them down to experience them, I turn the discussion over to you. Your thoughts, please?
post #2 of 24
Go Dell. Apple is limited to native resolution. I have one along with a 23" Sony. I have not even hooked my Apple display up in months.
post #3 of 24
dell was holding a sale and you could get the 2405 for even less yesterday
post #4 of 24
i would go dell. IMO it would be a better monitor. I hate both companies but i do think dell is better. They do have nice displays. I dont think you would be dissapointed.
post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 
That's what I was hoping to hear. How will Counter Strike: Source look on the Dell with an X850? Is CS a widescreen game?

With the X850, what will be the max resolution I can run CS:S, FarCry, BF2, etc., at?
post #6 of 24
Darth is completely right. Go dell. Plus you can get dell for $780 with tax and shipped. I did and this monitor turned out to be my best monitor. And i have quite a few including samsung and sony and viewsonic.
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Darth, want to sell me that display then?
post #8 of 24
Go Dell - the 2405 is great. Apple displays are nice, but you will pay a bit more and perhaps have compatibility issues. There are several "tweak" sites available on the web that tell you how to configure many games for widescreen, if the original version is not set up.
post #9 of 24
They both use the same panel, so the Dell would be better just for the fact that it is designed to be used with PCs.
post #10 of 24
The NEC Multisync is what I compared to the 2001FP. the NEC looked like a higher quality monitor, but I couldnt justify the extra 500 bucks. I think the 20 inch NEC is around $1100.

To me the cinemas are beautiful displays. If I had a chance I'd go with one just based on the fact that I cant stop staring at the cinema at compusa everytime I go there, LOL.

I think you are good either way. Good luck.
post #11 of 24
The Commish with Rep points? What happened?
post #12 of 24
slapthemonkey55,

First, you should know about HDCP. This is a new protection scheme that will be incorporated into the next Windows version, Windows Vista. It's a security standard instituted by Hollywood, that will make it impossible to play Mpeg-4 encoded DVD's on a Vista computer without HDCP compliant hardware and monitors. If you don't intend to watch any DVD movies on your monitor, then it won't be a concern, but if you do you should wait a few months for the monitor of your choice to be HDCP compliant. Dell's new 30" panel is HDCP compliant, but the rest of their line won't be until Feb/March. Most companies selling high quality lcd panels should be including HDCP compliance here in the next three to four months. I don't know yet whether this protection will ever be applied to games.

I think this will be a big issue, as so many people are now buying large lcd tv's and plasma screens for their home theater systems, but once this standard is adopted with dvd players and computers, a lot of them are going to be surprised they can't watch dvd's on their systems.

I'm in the market for a 24" lcd flat panel as well. The Dell packs a lot of features, although I've recently seen multiple posts on several forums including Dell's own forum that say once the monitor heats up, the ballast for the backlight can emit a high pitched squeal. Some are sensitive to this, some are not. Most people are happy with the 2405.

AW just introduced a 24" wide screen for less than a grand. There are only a couple companies that make the actual lcd panel, and this monitor has the same Samsung lcd panel the Dell does, so the performance should be the same, though I've not read anything about this monitor making any noise. It's built by Acer, and they make high quality monitors. However, in order to compete with Dell's price, they offer this without the additional usb ports, and some of the inputs.

Right now, the monitor that's top on my list is the Samsung Syncmaster 244T. It's more expensive than the Dell, but it offers all the inputs and features of the Dell, plus it's made by Samsung so there won't be any cheap support hardware inside. I've read on a few forums that Samsung retains the best lcd panels they make for their own monitors, and they also offer a zero dead pixel policy that includes exchange for the three year warranty if a pixel should become stuck or broken with the correct warranty purchase. You can find this one on the net for around $1400.

If your choice is just between the Apple and the Dell, the Dell offers more features and adjustability IMO.
post #13 of 24
Sigh...

Big Brother hard at work.
post #14 of 24
Hammerhead is right about the Samsungs..I have the same monitor for a few months now, and its perfect, and always has been..its my 3 rd samsung in the house, and they all work perfectly everytime...
Dell would be my second choice as well, Forget the Apple, for the reason that DB mentioned above...
post #15 of 24
Go for the Dell 2405. I bought one about 7 weeks ago. Mine has no defects & is a pixel perfect panel with no backlighting light bleeding issues, no sleepy or dead pixels. No electrical noise either (I sit only 1foot away so would notice if it did!). Connectivity is good as you get: S-Vhs, Composite, Component, VGA,DVI,USB,4 Media Card Readers.

Only issues I would say may trouble you with this panel are:

1: Looks best @ 1920x1200 native. To drive recent games like this you need some major firepower hardware. Just bought a 7800GTX512 and that can only just manage it smoothly. Some games still need tweaking & details turned off for it them to run smoothly.

2: DVD playback is not the best as the type of panel it is means you get a little video noise and no adjustments can hide it. Your only options are either watch the DVD's in a small window @ the DVD native res of 720x540 or sit about 4-5ft away and you will not notice it.

3: Only a few recent games have 16:10 support so you may find that some games need either a little R&D on the web to find a solution or need to run with black bars on the left+right sides of the screen or stretch the picture to fill 1920x1200 (looks crappy with a horizontal stretch).

4: Does not support HDCP either. You can wait until Dell release the 2407 but that only has a DVI input.
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by CyborgGreenAW

4: Does not support HDCP either. You can wait until Dell release the 2407 but that only has a DVI input.
I didn't know they were eliminating the other ports with the 2407. Is that because it would then compete with their lcd tv's?
post #17 of 24
Quote:
Darth, want to sell me that display then?
How much u wanna offer?
post #18 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I didn't know they were eliminating the other ports with the 2407. Is that because it would then compete with their lcd tv's?
Nah. Thinks its more to do with eliminating piracy so you cannot connect another device @ the same time to try & hack the encrypted signal!
post #19 of 24
I'll ad a prop for the Dell. I have one and it's quite nice. The HDCP thing is bothersome atm, because while I never watch video on my PC, persay, the nice home theater CRT quit on me suddenly and is out in the shop. Sooo, in the meantime, we made the 2405 our high def screen. It's serving well, but the Comcast box didn't like the DVI at all (of course) and we had to go composite (lower quality).

Overall it's a fantastic monitor in its duty on a PC and I can't begin to tell you the games that look absolutely fantastic in 1920x1200. I'd recommend it so much, I've thought about getting a second one

$.02
post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
With all settings at max, whats about the highest resolution I can run games with the X850? By games, I mean mostly CS:S, and some FarCry and BF2.

If it helps any, I am running an older Sony monitor now with a resolution of 1280 X 1024, so most anything will be an improvement.
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