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Hi,
I'm looking for a laptop with the following requirements:

1. What type of laptop are you looking for? (Desktop replacement, ultraportable etc)

A good compromise between portability, computing power and battery life. Consider this will be my only pc.
Btw I _need_ Linux on it.

2. What will be your uses for the laptop? (Net browsing, word processing, gaming, video editing etc)

I am graduating in particle physics so I do a lot of programming (I write the code but the actual analysis is done by data farms), reading and web browsing (multitasking a lot in the end). Data farms run linux that's why need it so bad.
I will also watch movies and play games sometimes, I will also generally tinker with it, just because I'm a geek.

3. What is your total budget?

between 1200 and 1600 euro (you can probably translate 1E = 1$ = 2/3 (0.666) taking into account Italian higher prices).

4. How portable does the laptop need to be? (how often will it be moved around, where it will be taken)

I will take it around daily from the library (wifi, few power outlets), lab (ethernet, power guaranteed) and home.
I also go back to my hometown once or twice a month (3 to 4 hours by train).

5. What type of screen do you want? (widescreen, glossy, size)
widescreen would be best
13'', ideally, but I am willing to consider 14'' too 12'' too
I'll work on it a lot so a glossy screen is a plus

6. How much battery life is required?

about 3 hours is required, more is better.

7. What type of processor/ram/hard drive/optical drives do you want?

I considered systems like:
Pentium-m between 1.7 and 2.0 GHz with 2Mb L2 cache
512 to 1024Mb of DDR2 RAM (no DDR)
80Gb of hard drive is good but 100 or 60 is ok
cd dvd burner (double layer)

8. If you want to play games, what type? (titles would be useful)

Sorry, I'm not sure...
I won't be playing Doom 3, but I'd try Metal Gear 3 if I could (but it's not a must), a MMORPG (World of Warcraft, Lineage 2), or a strategic (Warcraft 3, Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War). I will occasionally play with stuff requiring OpenGL (detector simulations and so on).

I'll not play regularly so I guess an entry level gpu like an ati x300 or a Ge force go 6400 would be ok. Anything better is welcome as long it does not hurts battery life or price too much.

9. Are there any specific things needed (e.g. ports)

In order:
Being able to run linux (I'll check at tuxmobil.org and linux-laptop.net before buying)
WiFi. Well, I have a spare mini-pci wifi card so wifi is not strictly required (but then a free mini pci slot is).
Bluetooth (to connect to gps, phone or pda) would be nice.
Infrared can be useful

10. Which things are you willing to compromise? (e.g. gaming laptops do not have long battery lives)

I can accept every kind of video card except intel IGP (my old laptop had little or no hw video acceleration and I really suffered from it).
I can probably compromise on everything else. If you show me a turion or a Pentium 4 M that mach my needs I'll consider it.

11. What laptops have you considered? (post links) Are there any brands you like/dislike?

Acer 5500 (about 1300E here in Italy)

pros:
- x700 is an awesome gpu
- It ships with the 8 cell battery -> about 3h of battery life

cons:
- heavy (2.7 Kg)
- big (compared to the Sony)
- its often described as a gaming laptop (an x700 is probably well over my needs)

Sony vaio s5m (aka s580 in the USA ) (~1500E)

pros:
- very portable
- nice screen

cons:
- The Go 6400 is the bare minimum (32Mb of vRAM only)
- the Ge force 6400 gpu has bad linux support. I would have to choose between 3d acceleration and the ability to suspend my laptop (under linux).
- a lot of forums reported overheating issues (link) even if a bios update is reported solve them making it louder (wich is a big problem for me)

- no bluetooth

can you help me?
Bye,

Emme
post #2 of 8
The Acer Travelmate 8202 seems good for you. Should be right within your budget at $2000 USD.

Intel Duo Core 1.83GHz
ATI Radeon x1600 GPU
1GB RAM
15.4" WSXGA/WSXGA+ screen
100GB HD if I'm not mistaken

I don't know if you've looked into it much but duo core has a better battery life than single core. The x1600 gpu is better than a 6800 go gpu so you can play most games on full settings. I would suggest getting more RAM for your programming needs.
post #3 of 8
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Originally Posted by Deathwish238
The Acer Travelmate 8202 seems good for you. Should be right within your budget at $2000 USD.
My budget is actually a little lower (between 1600 and 1700 $)

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Originally Posted by Deathwish238
Intel Duo Core 1.83GHz
ATI Radeon x1600 GPU
1GB RAM
15.4" WSXGA/WSXGA+ screen
100GB HD if I'm not mistaken

I don't know if you've looked into it much but duo core has a better battery life than single core. The x1600 gpu is better than a 6800 go gpu so you can play most games on full settings. I would suggest getting more RAM for your programming needs.
AFAIK, a duo when idle uses as much power as a dothan does at full usage. That's why I din not consider buying a duo. I'd buy a jonha solo but they wont be out till march and that's too far for me.

PS
A 15'' is way too big for me.
post #4 of 8
woops sorry missed your part about the screen. Although I'm not the biggest fan of them, the Sony SZ has great specs. It offers both duo and non duo cpu, 13.3" screen, up to 2GB of RAM, and has both integrated and geforce 7400 gpus!



I saw a benchmark of the duo vs non-duo pentium ms and the duo had equal or greater battery life for everything.
post #5 of 8
Check out sony vaio s2xp, s2vp, & s2xrp. I'm not sure where you may find them? (eBay perhaps?). They maybe older models of the s series but has far superior graphics ATI Radeon 9700 with 64mb dedicated. I still have a Sony s2xp... The con is they run at the older 400FSB but the cpu is still pretty fast, they run at 1.8/2Ghz.

You won't find another laptop so light @ 1.9kg that can actually play 3D games. Oh by the way I get about 10,000 3DMarks2001SE with s2xp.

It maybe within your budget... The new s series is very expensive because of the Sony brand.
post #6 of 8
I read a duo/PM comparison the other day that was linked to here in the forums that showed that duo actually outperformed PM on all accounts and battery life was better than PM in most cases (IIRC, the two tied in one test). THe laptops compared were ~identical asus laptops w/ same gpu and all. You might want to reconsider the DUO, espescially if you're looking to do multitasking. Something with a turion will probably do nicely as well since most of the scientific apps are probably already out in 64bit versions or will be shortly (especially for linux).

Otherwise the the tecra in ez2remember's sig will probably do nicely as well. also look into the asus w2v.

*edit: oops. I meant w3v, 14"widescreen. Like the tecra it has a modular optical drie that can be swapped for a second battery.
post #7 of 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathwish238
woops sorry missed your part about the screen. Although I'm not the biggest fan of them, the Sony SZ has great specs. It offers both duo and non duo cpu, 13.3" screen, up to 2GB of RAM, and has both integrated and geforce 7400 gpus!
the sz is wonderful but expensive and, afaik, is not available in europe yet. Plus sony has a history of hot/noisy laptops that scares me away.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathwish238
I saw a benchmark of the duo vs non-duo pentium ms and the duo had equal or greater battery life for everything.
could you post a link to it? I only saw comparisons between a duo a the pentium 4/athlon xp. That made me think they were trying to hide the fact jonha duo sucks a lot more power than dothan.
I think you see some duo laptop with battery life comparable to that of a dothan laptop because they pack 9-cell batteries with the duo and 6-cell with the dothan.
post #8 of 8
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If I was to conside buying a turion what would be yor advice?
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