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8886 HD Noise?

post #1 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:07pm
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My 8886 HD won't stop making noise, even if I scroll down with the IE scrollbar it cranks. Don't even ask how bad Morrowind is, it's like its getting utilized 24/7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Jonathan
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post #2 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:17pm
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I don't know what kind it is, if it's a Toshiba then I'm going to hunt down the fool at Toshiba that designed it and whup their ass. I mean seriously, moving the scrollbar in IE on a 2.8gig 1gig mem PC should not make the hard-drive crank!*chuckle*

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post #3 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:20pm
Go to your device manager and see if it's the Toshiba. It will show if it is under "Disk drives". The Toshiba seems to be an excellent performance drive, but noisy.
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post #4 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:23pm
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It says IC25N040ATCS05-0, checked it earlier and it doesn't indicate IBM or Toshiba. I'm guessing it's not an IBM since I'm pretty familiar with their model no's and they don't look like that.


Jonathan
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post #5 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:28pm
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Arg, was hoping it was easy enough to point at the Toshiba and blame it. I got it from you guys here, I am going to unload my video drivers and see if that makes a difference. Sounds weird, but I've had video-drivers cause all kinds of weird problems.


Jonathan
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post #6 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:34pm
That is the IBM 40GB GNX drive (8mb cache). Good drive.
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post #7 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:45pm
Jonathan,

Sorry I deleted my post. I've been trying to find the best way to approach and troubleshoot this. I don't like to refer to Sager tech support is I can handle it here. Let me know how it goes uninstalling the vid drivers. I'm assuming you have hacked drivers from you saying that.
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post #8 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:50pm
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No problem, actually I downloaded the most recent ATI beta drivers on www.guru3d.com, they support Mobility 9000. I removed them and got the same thing, figured I would but had to try it. Yeah I'm here on my old Inspiron and scrolling doesn't abuse my HD, actually doesn't do anything.
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post #9 of 24
11/12/02 at 11:50pm
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For some reason my HD on the Sager just runs and runs and runs... I'm going to goto IBM's site and download their tool to see if that will address my issue, if not I'll go directly to Sager. Thanks for the help with this and I'll let you know what I find out.


Jonathan
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post #10 of 24
11/13/02 at 1:36am
Nazgul, that's an IBM hard drive.

There is a known issue with some Toshiba hard drives that make noises as you are describing. A widely publicized solution that many people on the Toshiba bulletin boards used to fix this is by downloading the Intel Application Accelerator that will silence the drive and improve the efficiency of your system in other ways as well. Make sure you read the installation instructions before downloading and installing it, to ensure that it works.

Intel Link

Please keep us up to date regarding this fix.

badluckboy
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post #11 of 24
11/13/02 at 1:42am
Yeah, the clicking is cuz the hard drive resents all of its stuff to save power. It's kinda dumb, cuz it doesn't really save much power. There's a program out there that prevents this clicking by having the hard drive read random sectors every 10 seconds or so, I can't remember the name. I didn't download it because I don't want it to take system resources... but if it keeps the drive from putting itself away every few seconds, it might be worth the .01% system resources to get the hard drive to respond more quickly :-)
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post #12 of 24
11/13/02 at 1:20pm
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Actually it's not so much as a clicking as an actual accessing of the HD. The clicking I've learned to deal with, since it's usually intermittent and doesn't really bother me that much. What's happening is my HD is making access noises almost 100% of the time. Very very bad. Will let you know what I find out.


Jonathan
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post #13 of 24
11/13/02 at 3:03pm
Hmm... what background apps do you have running? I know also that in WinXP the hard drive is partially defraged (among other things) whenever the system is idle... but the keyword there is IDLE, lol, so if it's doing that while you're trying to work then something is up. Intel App Acc. should help, but I don't know if it will with this specific problem. Did you do anything to your virtual memory (page file) settings? I'm assuming you have 512 ram or more... But even with less than that it shouldn't be accessing your page file THAT often, lol.
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post #14 of 24
11/13/02 at 4:00pm
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No background apps running, it's a clean brand-new install of Windows 2000 w/ SP3. All drivers are installed, tried App Accelerator but I don't think its a noise issue so much as a constant accessing of the HD whenever I do anything. It's 2.8gig with 1gig of RAM, page file...whatever default is. Will check when I get home. Pretty weird huh?

Jonathan
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post #15 of 24
11/13/02 at 4:04pm
Did you install all of the included drivers for Win2k? Especially the chipset drivers? Cuz if those are smacked up, it won't communicate with components (especially the hard drive) well at all... You also might try going into your device manager and uninstalling the hard drive itself, then reset, and reinstall the drivers from the cd for the hard drive. Could have been a corrupt installation in the first place maybe... anyone have other thoughts?
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post #16 of 24
11/13/02 at 4:07pm
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Stupidly I thought that Win2k would install the correct motherboard/chipset drivers, I guess I can try updating those from either ones on the CD or from Intel's website. Yeah next step is uninstalling the HD, don't think the installation of Windows is bad since I've installed from this CD before. One thing that does concern me though is SP3, I patched my Dell with it and it TOTALLY screwed my machine up. Blew away my webserver, very very bad. Hope SP3 isn't too blame.


Jonathan
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post #17 of 24
11/13/02 at 4:10pm
If you didn't install the drivers from the cd after your windows installation, it probably is the problem.... I didn't install drivers for my hard drive once, and my speed got cut to 1/5. ALWAYS install the latest drivers after installing windows, lol.
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post #18 of 24
11/13/02 at 4:16pm
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Arg, I installed everything so I have no more undetected devices, I was hoping that would be sufficient. So your saying that the CD has drivers for the motherboard/intel chipset that I need to install also? Arg arg arg, well if your right that should hopefully solve my problem. Can't wait to get home and test it out. Thanks for the help.


Jonathan
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post #19 of 24
11/13/02 at 4:24pm
Yeah, Windows will usually "detect" your hardware and install the closest thing to a good driver that is available on your windows installation cd. But, keep in mind that your windows installation cd was made several years ago and drivers should be updated pretty frequently (not to mention new hardware has emerged since that time). Also, especially with a laptop, most of the hardware is specialized for mobility so it's best to get the latest drivers only from your notebook manufacturer. That's another reason why it's not good to get a notebook built by a company that doesn't update their drivers often or that may not exist in the near future (and why Sager's rule :-) lol). No problem though, let us know how it works out! Good luck!

Habib
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post #20 of 24
11/13/02 at 8:11pm
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Well it's a no go, I installed the chipset drivers and it still does the exact same thing. Something is definitely wrong, gonna have to call Sager tomorrow and figure out what's up. Thanks for the help.

Jonathan
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