5720 vs. 9750

What do you want it for? Just gaming? That's it? If so I'd go with the 9750.

the 9750 and the 9890 have problems with overheating and fried mobos

I'd take the 5720, and replace it for a dual pentium m version once games start truly benefiting from multithreading.

I think only PCTorque or Sager could tell you what the actual percentage is, and I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Still, if it was large, they'd be out of business. I've never had one fry myself, but it seems that if it happens, it usually does so in the first couple weeks, so hopefully if it unfortunately does happen you won't be too attached yet. I'd say go for it. I can't imagine the percent of defective mobo's is any more than 5% or Clevo'd probably have legal problems, but I'm really just pulling that number out of my ass.

i would go with a 9750.amd is better in gaming nad running multiple tasks at one time.if you are looking for some portability then you wouldnt be considering the 9750 am i right ok lets move on.the fx 60 is the best for multitasking nad games.they will kill intle in anything.if you grt a 9750 and something is wrong then you just send it back to pctorque nad they will fix it.its as easy as that.in my opinion go with the 9750.

The pentium M holds it place very well with a P4, I beleave a 2.0 Pentium M is on the same page as a 3.6ghz P4.

Thing to note, They both have the same LCD screen

But nothing compares to a AMD FX60, however, 5720 is easier to move places and is more battery efficient. about 50% more

I just got the 5720 over the 9520 becuase of the wieght, the 5720 is 7.5lb and the 9750 is another 5lb more totaling in at 12.5

The 5720 also runs much cooler then the 9750

The 9750 does have advantages like:
2 Firewire ports instead of 1
2 hardrives and 2 bays, instead of 1 of each as in the 5720
Unlike the 5720 there is no hiss in the headphone jack

There must be many other good points for the 9750 I have left out.

I picked the 5720 I know I will be very happy with it


I in no way have favorite brands (Nvidia, Ati, Intel, AMD)

Can someone confirm this is the case?

(I'm also looking into buying a gaming laptop, but cannot decide between these two Clevos and XPS m170 and possible future dual core XPSs/Clevos)

TIA,
danton

I bought a 4780 from PCTorque a couple years ago. P4 3.2 GHz HT processor, 1gb ram, ati 9600 graphics, etc, etc, etc.

I just bought a 5720. Two reasons I didn't go with a desktop processor: heat and performance.

Heat: The heat sucks. I am convinced that the heat of the desktop processor (and maybe the 9600 graphics) took their toll on the machine over time. Artifacts galore and the machine would just spontaneously shut down if I didn't have an external fan blowing on it. I kept the machine clean, and this didn't happen early on, it just got worse and worse. So, if you get a desktop processor, be prepared to get a new machine in a couple years anyway.

Performance: Don't get hung up on numbers. My 2.26 processor FAR outperforms the 3.2 GHz P4 HT is at least on par and in some cases, significantly outperforms that processor. It won't be as fast at video or audio rendering - that's where HT and dual cores really shine. And there are a couple games that it will not perform as well as the desktop processor. And, yes, the top of the line AMD is better than any p4 (at least at gaming).

But, I have to tell you, the Pentium M 2.26 performs better than a 3.2 GHz processor in most tasks and performs as well as a 3.8 GHz processor in some tasks. Oh yeah, and i can overclock the processor natively from within the bios to 2.60ghz (currently running at 2.4ghz). In the vast majority of games, the video card is what matters, not the processor. I can run world of warcraft at the highest quality now, where I had to turn it down to the ABSOLUTE lowest with my 3.2ghz processor. It's all about the video system.

It's up to you. I bought a desktop processor and I never believed that a pentium m was a good gaming processor. Intel doesnt really want people to know that either because they want to sell more P4s. But read the reviews on the internet. People are even putting the pentium M in desktop machines now because it is so good at gaming.

Couple of things...
-The 9750 has the horrible headphone hiss
-The fx60 destroys the PIV 3.8 and the PM- games are horrible benchmarks for cpus.
-The 9750 has better cooling than the 5720. I say this because the gpu can be overclocked more on the 9750.
-The 5720 is somewhat portable while the 9750 isn't
-The 9750 is 64bit and performs phenominally in linux (which fully supports 64bit extensions)

Really? My 9750 doesn't have any headphone hiss...In fact, I prefer to use headphones because it sounds so nice.

Thats not correct for the 9750. Users in this forum are talking about temperatures around 55°C under load with a X2 4800+. IMHO that is far away from overheating.

AFAIK the P-M of the 5720 can not be changed against a new Core-Duo Pentium-M because the mainboard chipset does not support it.

I would go for the 9750 with a X2 4400+ because this processor will give you the best performance/price ration and is much more futureproof than a single core processor.

He meant, that the Athlon 64 X2 is the better performer than the P-M and the P4 - specially in games and multithreaded applications.

Everyone has different levels of sensitivity to these things. I do multitrack audio recording so I expext virtually no hiss. I've tested this machine with my Ultimate Ears UE-10pros ($1,000), B&O A8 ($165), BD DT880's ($260) and even tried some ipod crap buds to boot. Everyone of them had high levels of hiss.

I also tried hooking it up to my audio system and the results were atrocious. There's absolutely no low end. The audio processor is simply pitiful. Being that the 5720 uses the same chip I bet they perform equally as poor.

Sorry about that. I actually meant that games aren't a good real world indicator for benchmarking a cpu because you are bottlenecked by the video card at the resolutions you will likely be playing at.

Things like media encoding, 3d rendering, compiling and other processor intensive tasks are better to judge how strong the processor is.

hey bt, so are you saying the 9750 SPDIF out is also crap then with the same hiss ?

I'm thinking of hooking up a 7.1 system via the SPDIF out as a digital in on the amp.