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post #41 of 81
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Redone! With pictures and all!
If there is anything else you want, feel free to ask about it!
Also, mods, I would love a sticky on this if you please!
post #42 of 81
Nice guide! why not a sticky yet?


I overclock with the Omega driver and ATI tray tools.
If I overclock the video card while on battery, the video card does crash. But when I set the 'PowerPlay' settings to "Optimal Performance when on batteries" and overclock the video card, the card does not crash with the overclock; and I have played NFS:Most Wanted @ 390core/275mem for about 1-2 hours.
post #43 of 81
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Hmm...interesting. Well I might rewrite it again, as I'm starting to like ATT now that it works for me =P. Though, I did download the version from Guru rather than the Omega one. Mainly, I want to go over the advanced tweaks in it, such as enabling some settings for performance, and some for image quality (such as line aa)
post #44 of 81
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Like I said, I redid it again for ATI Tray Tools (kinda.) Put in a whole new section just for tweaking the most performance out of the card.
post #45 of 81

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...I'd like to fix GPU&RAM timings in vgabios at once, the prob. is - DELL has locked all of them, no way to flash a modified bios into
Here you could get a X300,X800 etc. radeon mobility bios and modify it with rabit or something else: http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/
post #46 of 81
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But if you did that wouldn't it screw up the point of Powerplay? It would start up needing to much power and crash, and BIOS flashing can be very dangerous. Really I don't know of many people who would rather have to overclock via the BIOS rather than overclock via the desktop.
post #47 of 81
desktop is more user-accessable i feel.
post #48 of 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by amazin asian
But if you did that wouldn't it screw up the point of Powerplay? It would start up needing to much power and crash...
The point is that you can overclock the video card without crashing the video card, but it will use more battery. Make sure that when you overclock, you don't set the overclock on start up (unless it's an underclock), instead only when on 3D.
post #49 of 81
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Originally Posted by BlueLaptop
The point is that you can overclock the video card without crashing the video card, but it will use more battery. Make sure that when you overclock, you don't set the overclock on start up (unless it's an underclock), instead only when on 3D.
How would having a BIOS flashed overclock be more stable?
Say you put the BIOS overclock too much, and you didn't realize it until your about 3 hours into a game and it crashes cause of an over-overclock? You can't lower the clock without having to reflash it, and it won't reset itself down to stable clocks by VPU recovery if I'm correct.
post #50 of 81
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Originally Posted by amazin asian
How would having a BIOS flashed overclock be more stable?
Say you put the BIOS overclock too much, and you didn't realize it until your about 3 hours into a game and it crashes cause of an over-overclock? You can't lower the clock without having to reflash it, and it won't reset itself down to stable clocks by VPU recovery if I'm correct.
I'm not talking about BIOS overclocking.
post #51 of 81
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Originally Posted by BlueLaptop
I'm not talking about BIOS overclocking.
Oh, well it sounded like you were.
I think I might change the settings again. I like playing with settings, for what reason thought I have yet to figure out.
post #52 of 81
I meant the PowerPlay settings.
see picture



After you set that, overclock normally with the Omega/ATI Tray Tools software. The laptop will use more battery power this way, but will enable you to play video games with the video card overclocked.
post #53 of 81

Notice any performance increase?

This thread has detailed (very well) how to overclock the ATI Mob x300, but no one has posted how much they've been able to increase performance.

I'm not curious to know how much i could overclock mine, but i am curious to know how much of an increase you can get with it still being stable.

anyone have stats? fps increases? will i be able to play F.E.A.R. on more than meager settings?
post #54 of 81
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Originally Posted by whatsoncemore
anyone have stats? fps increases? will i be able to play F.E.A.R. on more than meager settings?
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=137736
post #55 of 81
...I'm interested in the performance increase with overclocking the gpu..

I already know FEAR runs...
post #56 of 81
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsoncemore
...I'm interested in the performance increase with overclocking the gpu..

I already know FEAR runs...
It's minimal, but helps out. You should be able to get about a 30% increase in frame rates, and even though that sounds like a high number you have to realize how low the framrates can be to start off with. If you overclock the GPU from 297 default to about 400, that is a 30% overclock. The default score in 3DMark05 is about 1400. After the overclock, you should be getting 1800 or more 3DMarks. Also, the memory has about a 50% overclock potential (millage will very) and though it won't offer a 50% increase in FPS, it will help with running higher texture qualities as it will be able to "feed" these larger texture files to the core 50% faster than it used to.
post #57 of 81
Awesome. I'll have to try it out.
-Thanks
post #58 of 81
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Originally Posted by whatsoncemore
Awesome. I'll have to try it out.
-Thanks
Yeah, I've found that almost all games (or at least the demos) will run with at least medium settings.
Doom3, Quake4, and FEAR can run 800x600 with medium settings and be playable. FEAR I think looks much better though when you set the videos on maximum, as that really isn't a very taxing effect. Also, using DX8 shaders will help improvment by a lot, but the game looks really bad without DX9, and I can only imagin what it looks like with pixel/vertex shader 3.0.

Call of Duty 2 runs fine at 1280x800 with trillinear, no AF, and DX7. Zfeather smoke doesn't seem to bog it down that much either. Half-Life 2 is the same way, recomending high for all settings, and then switching to the same widescreen resolution. I will admit that a nice graphics card with AA and alpha-texture filtering enabled would really help out the fences, but you can get by if you don't pay attention to them.

I haven't tested Battlefeild 2 performance to throughly (as it is not really my cup of tea) but the game runs nice at medium settings with 800x600, and you could improve either settings or resolution.

Need for Speed: Most Wanted plays ok too up to 1280x800 on high detail, but not with much AA or AF. You may be able to get by on a lower resolution though.

That's all the demos that I had downloaded, and we just got our DSL cut because it was costing us to much, since now that I have my permit and need 100 hours behind the wheel, gas has taken a higher priority over internet (now we use the 6 months of Earthlink! Boo AOL!)
post #59 of 81
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueLaptop
I meant the PowerPlay settings.
see picture


I just figured out what you are talking about, but I'm not sure if I understand what you are supporting: overclock on battery, overclock via BIOS, or not overclock via BIOS?
post #60 of 81
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Originally Posted by amazin asian
This is for everyone who wants to know how to overclock an ATI Mobility Card.

Rules of overclocking
Rule 1: Don’t overclock on battery power. This is what will happen:
Solution: Change the PowerPlay settings to 'Optimal Performance while on battery'

(See this post, click here).

(I use the 9-cell battery, incase that make a difference)
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