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Standby vs. Hibernate

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Which do you think is better? Advantages/disadvantages?
post #2 of 21
I dont like either.. I've historically had issues with standby on a number of computers over the past several years, so now, even though it works fine for me, I just.. it just gives me bad vibes.. as for hibernate, I'm a storage nazi.. so I can't stand the thought of having an extra 1.5GB HIB file when I could have that much more free space.. just in case...

I usually leave it on always.. except while its in transport.. and with only about 30 processes, my boot time is quite qwik.. so that suits me best.. They are two totally different features, each with different uses and pros/cons.

Sorry to take the "Both are lame" stance.. I'mnot saying they are both bad.. they just dont fulfill my needs.
post #3 of 21
they both are horreendus. they are the two worst apps in any version of windows
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
What's wrong with standby I didnt' have any problems with it...

If I've use hibernate but have now turned it off, is the 1GB file still around or does it automatically get deleted?
post #5 of 21
I use standby while in AC mode after 15 min. Doesn't bother me as I don't see the disadvantage.

While on batt 5 minutes till standby, and 30 minutes (or was it 15) for hibernate. Save batt power that way. Hibernate doesn't really serve a purpose for me, it's only there for if I forget to power down the computer.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by Flav_cool
What's wrong with standby I didnt' have any problems with it...

If I've use hibernate but have now turned it off, is the 1GB file still around or does it automatically get deleted?
it still exsists. you have to disable it seperately.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Tanamoril
it still exsists. you have to disable it seperately.
You wanna tell me where I can find it and delete it?
post #8 of 21
When you disable hibernation, the hiberfil.sys file is deleted automatically the nest time you restart.

http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/hiberfil-sys-xp.html
post #9 of 21
I use hibernation the most. It's like shutting down your computer but the bootup takes far less time. I use it mostly because I move my computer from home to school and around school and I don't want to run standby and use battery while I move it.
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by Baraka_XP
I use hibernation the most. It's like shutting down your computer but the bootup takes far less time. I use it mostly because I move my computer from home to school and around school and I don't want to run standby and use battery while I move it.
Yea true...the only thing I didn't like when I used it though is that my avedesk icons got messed up...i do'nt know why. Like they had a darker and not as smooth edges around them.

BTW is it b/c I don't have quickset that the fn+f1 does not initiate hibernate (when enabled in windows of course)...also fn+f10 doesn't open the dvd tray either...
post #11 of 21
could be because you don't have quickset. I don't use fn+f1 to hibernate usually i just close the lid and have it set to hibernate when i do that.
post #12 of 21
I always had issues with standby not booting up again when you try to use the computer again. It will start up but would just show a black screen. This happens to my desktop and even this new 9300. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I try to make it a habit to shutdown the computer when I'm not using it.
post #13 of 21
I use standby...my machine comes back to life instantaneously (well, a 3 second delay) without a hitch...it takes lot longer to restore from hibernate (especially the more ram you have, 'cause hibernate just stores your ram contents on your hard drive and then reloads the ram when your comp wakes up)...

Wow...seems a lot of people are having issues with standby...

Personally, I've used standby for a very long time on my desktop (STR State 3), and now that I have sold my desktop, on my m170 as well...

on the m170, I've set it up so that it goes into standby mode when I close the LCD. Once I open it again, the comp comes back to life without any issues. I am using the latest drivers for my 7800 and the mobile 915 chipset. I have the A05 bios on my mobo (came with the system, I got it 3 weeks ago). No hardware modifications (excecpt a ram upgrade) have been made, everything is running at stock speeds.

On my desktop, I haven't had any issues with standby either..

you guys should try updating all your drivers, your bios, doing a chkdsk on your system partition, and a defrag if you've never done it...

this may seem obvious, but you should be running SP2 and all the patches...

also, dunno how often you reformat/reinstall, but I do it every 6 months as a preventative measure...

with a clean system that's been updated, you should not have any issues with standby unless your hardware is faulty

if you can give me more details, I may be able to help you figure out why your standby doesn't work properly
post #14 of 21
I tried both Standy/Hibernate because they had somewhat of a coolness factor when I first received my 9300 but now I just powerup or powerdown.

The one thing that I always remember is another computer I once had was mistakenly put into Standy and for reasons unknown the processor fried itself...
post #15 of 21
I refuse to use either, i find them both pointless...i've never used them and i never will...whether it be desktop or laptop. I only need 1 power scheme....turn off display on both after x....but never turn the hdd off...sure let it spin down but not completely off.

For me it's pretty simple, the computer is either on or off....no in-between.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Severyth
I refuse to use either, i find them both pointless...i've never used them and i never will...whether it be desktop or laptop. I only need 1 power scheme....turn off display on both after x....but never turn the hdd off...sure let it spin down but not completely off.

For me it's pretty simple, the computer is either on or off....no in-between.
Are you referring to standby and hibernation only as an option when the computer is inactive for a time? I thought the whole point was that instead of shutting down my system for the night, or for transport, I put it into standby, and next time I need to use it, its ready to go in 3 seconds. I don't bother turning off the display or hard drive after inactivity, since most of the time my m170 is running on AC power... and when I am running on battery, its not for very long anyway, so I am never away from my machine long enough for the screen saver to kick in...
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by greenshadow
Are you referring to standby and hibernation only as an option when the computer is inactive for a time? I thought the whole point was that instead of shutting down my system for the night, or for transport, I put it into standby, and next time I need to use it, its ready to go in 3 seconds. I don't bother turning off the display or hard drive after inactivity, since most of the time my m170 is running on AC power... and when I am running on battery, its not for very long anyway, so I am never away from my machine long enough for the screen saver to kick in...

i have only seen bad things come out of stand by and hibernation...experiences from work or friends. It's convenient, but i don't trust it..i'm going to leave it at that...but again the options are there...for those that find it useful, that's what they were designed for, to accomodate those needs. Personally i've never felt the need to utilise them aswell as the horror stories i mentioned above....but who know's, the users could have been idiots.
post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by greenshadow
Are you referring to standby and hibernation only as an option when the computer is inactive for a time? I thought the whole point was that instead of shutting down my system for the night, or for transport, I put it into standby, and next time I need to use it, its ready to go in 3 seconds. I don't bother turning off the display or hard drive after inactivity, since most of the time my m170 is running on AC power... and when I am running on battery, its not for very long anyway, so I am never away from my machine long enough for the screen saver to kick in...
Standby is meant more for short periods of time. I've never had issues with Standby and hibernate on my machines. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Standby is meant for the short term mostly due to the fact that it still consumes power. If you pull the plug (and in the case of the notebooks, the battery) while in Standby mode, you'll lose your session. Hibernation is completely unpowered. You can disassemble the machine, put it back together and resume.

I find that resuming from Hibernate is faster than an ordinary power-up.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by BraytonAK
Standby is meant more for short periods of time. I've never had issues with Standby and hibernate on my machines. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Standby is meant for the short term mostly due to the fact that it still consumes power. If you pull the plug (and in the case of the notebooks, the battery) while in Standby mode, you'll lose your session. Hibernation is completely unpowered. You can disassemble the machine, put it back together and resume.

I find that resuming from Hibernate is faster than an ordinary power-up.
You're right that standby consumes power...the RAM contents have to be kept intact, so that when you power the rest of the system back up, your CPU will know what's going on. I guess I got so used to having a UPS that I don't ever think of losing power so I always used standby on my desktop...on my new m170 I just close the lid and it goes into standby for the night...that uses about 4% of the battery...
post #20 of 21
I have a nightly backup script that runs. I leave my computer in standby when I'm done for the night, and around 4am Windows Scheduler brings my laptop out of standby, does the backup and another script puts the laptop back in standby an hour later.

So for that reason, standby is great. Scheduler can still wake up the computer to run the backups without interfering in my workday.
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