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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Sup guys. I am either going to build a comp, or get a laptop, I don't know yet because I don't know which highschool I am going too. (One is boarding school and one is local.) My brother has built computers, but I'd like to try it too, so I was wondering, if I was going to order it today, if this would be a good setup.

Note: I don't want intel, AMD only. All products are from newegg.com

Asus K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU, Model "K8V"Deluxe" $137.00
AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 1MB L2 Cache $299.00
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 $213.00
Plextor Beige 8X DVD-RW/+RW / CD-R/RW / DVD-ROM / CD-ROM Drive $189.00
Hitachi 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive $74
Hercules RADEON 9800XT Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out $435
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PCI Sound Card $89
Logitech Z640 5.1 Speakers $66
Logitech Elite Keyboard USB/PS2 104keys $29
Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse USB/PS2 $39.99
SAMSUNG 955DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor .20 Dot pitch $185.00

Grand Total: $ 1,579.00 with shipping

Does this sound good to you.. remember.. I want this to atleast last 6 years. (Ram & other upgrades might apply.) Tell me your thoughts, friends in the community.
post #2 of 21
Is that going to be a bad ass computer? For sure yes. Will it still be bad ass and playing new games in 6 years? Not a chance.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
Yea, that's why I am going to wait about a year, and then laugh at the technology that we have now. Nehalem is supposed to come out in 2005.. 10.2 ghz.. /drool Let's get some more opinions in here.
post #4 of 21
Doesn't matter how long you wait, nothing is going to last 6 years. Yes, it will still work, probably even quite well, with the programs that match its vintage and even a couple of years down the line. But tech is moving on all the time, and its going faster and faster. So the only way to have something current 6 years from now is to wait for 5-1/2 years. Then it will only have one foot in the grave.

They say owning a sailboat is like standing in the shower with the cold on full and a bit fan blowing while tearing up $100 bills. Computers are like that except you don't get clean while doing it.
post #5 of 21
maybe 1 year and a half maximun, and probably not as much (for new games i say)

anyway it seems to be a fine configuration.
post #6 of 21
Yah, looks to be a very good machine. If you proceed, send us reports with photos and the final boot up report.
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
Will do, this probably want happen until a couple of months. I meant 4 years, because thats when I will be finishing up highschool and be getting ready for college. I don't play top of the line games anyway..
post #8 of 21
You don't play top of the line video games? Than why are you building such an uber machine. You could easily knock $300-$400 off that price of that computer. Get a 9700 pro for $220 an amd 64 3000 for $215. Unless your overclocking you don't need xms ram. You've quoted the oem price for your cpu so you still need to buy a heatsink/fan. Also its a bad sign when you spend more for your sound card than you do for your speakers. All your componets are high quality, but If your not going to be playing Doom3, Half-life 2, and newer games at 1600x1200 with 16x anisotropic filtering and 6x antialiasing you don't need that much hardware. If you do buy that uber machine get better speakers.
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
Shadow, to reply to a couple of youre comments.
I will be playing higher end games, I ment I didn't play them on the computer I am on now, because I like my fps atleast above 50. My computer runs splinter cell, and armed and dangerous, and whenever I make a sudden move it drops to like 20 fps. The 9600SE was not what I was hoping for, but I did get a free copy of HL2 with it. .

I am looking to get a different soundcard, I use headphones most of the time. Can anyone point me in the direction of a sound card that is under 60 USD?

Also, I wanted the 1mb cache on the 3200, so that is why i am getting the 3200 instead of 3000. The FX-51 and 3400+ are to expensive to keep it in my budget, but I'm sure everything will go down in price in the next 5 months, where in reality, is when I'd be ordering my computer.

Also, everything is retail that I am going to buy off of newegg, except for the the CD drive and Hard Drive, which I already have the connectors for.

I also forgot to add a case in that setup, I might build one out of legos like in the Maximum PC article
post #10 of 21
how old are you? (if i may say so)
post #11 of 21
This is a good sound card

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...nufactory=1282

A sound blaster 5.1 or a regular Audigy would be good as well. You could also take some of your money and buy a high quality set of headphones if you don't already own a pair. If you do want the best of the best stick with the audigy 2 though.

Also if I were you I'd wait on the video card. The next generation is rumored to have 40% more performance than the current cards.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by quintus
how old are you? (if i may say so)

13 years of age
post #13 of 21
fiction - take a look at http://www.cyberpowerinc.com/highendsystem/a64b.asp

play with the configuration and you might be able to buy a system rathr than build one.

Good Luck
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
I saw their add in an old magazine, I'd rather get the experience and building one, and, I think its more fun building one (I helped with brothers, well actually, I just held the excess wires when he taped them to the side of his case :/ )
post #15 of 21
I think the machine you want to build is great. Only a couple things I would like to comment on.

First, I may be mispelling this, but I would recommend a Xaser III case which has something like 4 fans (maybe more) built into it with a fan control. I know a friend who has this case, and it is somewhat noisey, but it's worth it for keeping the motherboard and cpu cool. Second, I didn't see a power supply. You might want to consider something with at least 430 watts with that graphics card in mind (the computer you want will take a lot of power). Finally, I can't speak for the type of motherboard you want, but it wouldn't hurt to do some research on the nForce chipsets for motherboards. I have the Asus A7N8X Deluxe board with nForce2 and I find it to be a very stable one. Just a suggesition.
post #16 of 21
i prefer building it, i dont know if it is enough cheaper for the effort (if you consider that as a effort), but for me is a pleasure know exactly not only how is configured your software, but also your hardware too.

i wish i could build my laptops
post #17 of 21

Amen to that!

Quote:
Originally Posted by quintus
i wish i could build my laptops

Me Too.
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krazerz
I think the machine you want to build is great. Only a couple things I would like to comment on.

First, I may be mispelling this, but I would recommend a Xaser III case which has something like 4 fans (maybe more) built into it with a fan control.
In my first post, there is no case listed there, I didn't know which one to get.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krazerz
Second, I didn't see a power supply. You might want to consider something with at least 430 watts with that graphics card in mind (the computer you want will take a lot of power).
The case I am going to buy will probably have a big power supply and a lot of fans.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krazerz
Finally, I can't speak for the type of motherboard you want, but it wouldn't hurt to do some research on the nForce chipsets for motherboards. I have the Asus A7N8X Deluxe board with nForce2 and I find it to be a very stable one. Just a suggesition.
I heard some are good with nVidia cards and some are good with ATI cards. I'm doing some research with it, I'm also looking into products that are stable when they are overclocked.
post #19 of 21
i have listen and read lot of times that ABIT NF7-S rev2.0 o SOLTEK SL-75FRN2-RL are really good for overclocking, far more than the asus, as an example if you use a7n8x you have to use the memory recommended by asus.

if you dont need sata raid the EPOX 8rda+ is a good option too.

have a nice day!
post #20 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by quintus
i have listen and read lot of times that ABIT NF7-S rev2.0 o SOLTEK SL-75FRN2-RL are really good for overclocking, far more than the asus, as an example if you use a7n8x you have to use the memory recommended by asus.

if you dont need sata raid the EPOX 8rda+ is a good option too.

have a nice day!
I also read that ABIT has had problems with capacitors that "rust/oxidize". I had a motherboard that this happened to on a P3-550 system that was about three/four years old.
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