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KDE 3.1 and Redhat 8

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
How do I get KDE 3.1 installed under Redhat 8.0? I haven't seen any release of KDE 3.1 for Redhat, there were some releases that could be used under Redhat 7.3, but nothing for RH8. Has anyone been able to get KDE 3.1 up and running under RH8?
I'm a fairly new to linux and im not real familiar with installing and updating. thanks.
post #2 of 10

KDE 3.1

Please be aware that RH8 uses BlueCurve as the native interface. This ain't KDE but Gnome tweaked by RedHat devel team. I believe there is some KDE 3.1 packages compatible with RH.

You could first try to do an online update, you just need to register to rhn ( Red Hat Network ) and the updates will be automatic throught the RedHat package Manager. This is the safest and easiest ( and RH recommended).

Use www.google.com/linux and enter "RH 8.0 KDE3.1" as a search string. Keep the quotes as google will search a tiny bit deeper. Hopefullysomeone else has done it and you may find a step by step post about it

If you feel lucky trying it on your own the reference sites for RPM packages is http://www.rpmfind.net. You will find there a lot of packages.

To install a *.rpm file on RH, you do: rpm -Uvh file.rpm[enter] as root typing "man rpm" in the shell will show you the manual
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
I have been searching internet for information on this and I did come across this http://linux-sxs.org/index2.html
I'm not exactly sure how to go about it, but im sure I can figure it out after awhile--we'll see,lol.
post #4 of 10
nice link,nice site. That is definately a good starting point. But remember always have more than one source of information. www.tldp.org or the Linux Documentation Project is one of the best ressources for inf, docas, howtos etc ... Good luck
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the help...I havent found much more information on it but I guess I have enough for now to get busy and I should at least install RH8 again first,lol..A little off topic, but I hate winmodems,lol. I know how to get it to work under linux, but it's still annoying.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
laclasse -
I found another site with the "unofficial" KDE 3.1 packages for RH8
http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...group_id=65974
Do you know if I have to install each of those separate? And if they need to be installed in any specific order? Thanks you for your help and advice.
post #7 of 10

KDE 3.1

at winmodems ......This kind of pay for the hardware and i will rip you off should be punished !!!

Well like i say before, you could try installing the pakages from the sourceforge link you posted but still i would urge you to try to update RH throught the RedHat Package Manager. Does RH has KDE 3.1 avalaible on their update system ? If not sorry then you are right trying

The order means a lot, and to avaoid to make it extra laborious, i would install all kdelibs, kdebase and QT packages first. Considering they are the base, i bet without them all the other would fail. Let me know how you doing
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
No, RH doesnt have KDE 3.1 on their update..blah but I guess feb 15 is suppose to be the release of KDE 3.1 for Redhat, so I dont know...I would like to figure out how to do this all myself before then, since I hate waitin for things,lol. But I'll have other worries to deal with before then anyway...like installin VMware and gettin XP running on it well...and get my damn modem to work...I definitely need cable or dsl I'll let you know how it goes...thanks again for ur help.
post #9 of 10
skot,

Ummm please don't be scared at what i am gonna say. To keep your box uptimum, especially RH, i will VERY strongly advise you to wait for RH official updates. Downloading the whole of KDE on your modem is a painfull experience ( i have been on 33.6 for 2 1/5 years ). Now the important information is the following:

-Linux is just a kernel, vendors/groups/associations/developpers are providing the rest of the operating system software, hence why linux is known as distro.

Distro like RH and Mandrake ( also caldera, JBL, Suse etc .. ) like to particulary customised their system. Good. Problem is that they do this by following extremely new and ALPHA versions of the software to include more functionnalities ( the race is with windows, and linux as it stand today is far from winning this one ). Therefore these distributions have usually their own kernel, with special patches ( Virtual Memory, IDE patches etc ... ), as well as special tweaked ways. On this distros installing something other than what provided by the vendor is hazardous, and apart from a basic program you are more likely to encounter problems (dependancies etc ...).

Now there is another breed of distro, which are the reverse, minimalistic, no fancy graphical installer, no fancy HW recognition. These are Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, LR-s or LFS ( Linux From Scratch )....They have usually a pure GNU/GPL license and do not provide commercial software. This doesn't mean for example, that the commercial version of wine would not run on those . On these, well they are NOT recommended to start with, but they are appreciable once you get the 'hang' of linux.

The main advantage of Linux reside in the ability to 'rebuild' a program, adapting it to your processor, architecture and capabilities. This is called compiling.
When Windows ship a program, you have a binary ( an executable or *.exe file ). This binary has already been compiled but not on your machine. Not with your processor !!

On linux, you can download any source code and compile it on your machine, even more optimize it for a P4 ( sagers ).

A RPM package ( or a .deb for debian ) is the same as the .exe windows files. These are precompiled binaries. So the real tip is, dll KDE 3.1, but not the RPM, but the full source. To recognise them, they are 'file.tar.gz' *.tar.bz2 or *.tgz. Then you could attempt to build KDE 3.1 from source, optimized for your P4 on your own machine ! Will take some time and uses 100 % of the CPU but for real improvement in Speed and Stability. By the way if you stumble across files like *.src.rpm, forget about those, they are src rpms, you may as well get the real full source

To build or compile a program
ex: foo.tar.bz
first untar/decompress the package :
laclasse@monster $ tar -xvzf foo.tar.bz
{lots of lines} < -- results of decompression
This will create a new directory called foo-version in the present directory. Then :
laclasse@monster $ cd foo-version
laclasse@monster:foo-version/ $ ./configure
laclasse@monster:foo-version/ $ make
(then, assuming no erro4rs so far )
laclasse@monster:foo-version/ $ make installl
after long imcomprehensible lines..... thats it the program is ready Whoa what a post, got carried away hope it is useful, have no idea where you stand in linux ......Cheers.
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks a lot for that info and I am going to just wait for RH to give me the offical update. I dont have the resource or time to download all the source files needed...or really the patience,lol. I have a general knowledge about linux and can figure things out, just not real good at it yet or comfortable with it. I want to get this machine dual booting, and trying to use Linux a lot and run the Win apps. from vm and then when I get my sager (prob in a few months when the semester is over and i can work more and save more) I'll use that for all the fun stuff and just run linux on this one.

thanks yet again for all your knowledge and help
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