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post #21 of 53
2/13/06 at 11:37pm
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Originally Posted by siriusly
i have a 40 gig hard drive in my laptop and i was wondering how much i should partition the drive to have linux running smooth and have xp running smooth to.

i know that xp needs a minimum of 6 gigs so i would prolly make it like a 10 gig partition and use the rest for linux. what do u guys think?
Windows 15, the rest use for linux. ( thats my setup ) but with a 80gb hd.
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post #22 of 53
2/13/06 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by drizek
i would recommend kubuntu for that laptop simply because you will have it working 100%

to my experience, KDE in ubuntu actually makes your CPU temp go up, your system will actually have less battery life, and stay hotter. Maybe this is just my experience.
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post #23 of 53
2/14/06 at 5:59am
If you want to dualboot and want the most out of your harddrive I suggest
1 windows partition (around 10 GB - only programs, no data)
1 linux installation (with more than one partition - around 10 gb without data too)
the rest in one big ext3 partition which holds the data for both windows and linux, for that you need to use ext2ifs to mount that partition on windows.
That way you have no problem using almost all of your harddrive on both systems and can even share thunderbird and firefox settings in both osses without redundancy in data.
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post #24 of 53
2/14/06 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by egalus
If you want to dualboot and want the most out of your harddrive I suggest
1 windows partition (around 10 GB - only programs, no data)
1 linux installation (with more than one partition - around 10 gb without data too)
the rest in one big ext3 partition which holds the data for both windows and linux, for that you need to use ext2ifs to mount that partition on windows.
That way you have no problem using almost all of your harddrive on both systems and can even share thunderbird and firefox settings in both osses without redundancy in data.
thats a pretty good idea
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post #25 of 53
2/14/06 at 12:29pm
Yea I have been thinking about installing the ext drivers on my mac and my wifes MS machine for my external drive, havent done it yet, but worth looking into at least

Seablade
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post #26 of 53
2/14/06 at 7:54pm
Thread Starter 
would the 10 gig partition for xp be able to run cs source fine?

yea i know its real newb question but i just want to make sure everything may work b4 i start doin anything
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post #27 of 53
2/14/06 at 8:41pm
hdd size will not (significantly) effect performance. so assume you're getting about 50fps with your settings now, you will still be getting 50fps after you partition. so in a word: YES

now if you fit or not is another story. My windows partition is roughly 16gb (on a 60gb drive) and I can't have more than 2 (usually 1) game installed at a time, or I find my self running out of space very quickly. At one point i had CS:S and Enemy Territory installed at the same time, CS:S went because i only had something like 500mb of empty space to work with. Now i am almost done with ET, so i'll remove that and put CS:S or maybe even NFS:Most Wanted instead, take it one game at a time.
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post #28 of 53
2/14/06 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by egalus
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Instead of Emifreq I use powernowd, another speedstep daemon, but as I said, runtimes are compared at same states, idle, 800mhz fsb, 0.7v corevoltage, same lightsetting, same lansetting.
And it's the calced time and the powerconsumption reported by the system that differ in 5-8% which leads to me still using windows.

Emifreq allows you to manually control your cpu speed ( and it can be run WITH powernowd) i always have mine on powersaving when running on batteries.


As for undervolting, is there a WIKI or a guide i can safely follow :P ?
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post #29 of 53
2/15/06 at 12:49am
As i posted in another thread, dapper(the next ubuntu release, currently in testing) now supports the sd card reader. its the only distro i know of that does(im sure they all will in the next few months) so that is a plus. dapper is now in a feature freeze and all they are doing now is fixing bugs. it has been really stable for me for the past several weeks so if you want KDE(or gnome) and your sd card to work just install the k/ubuntu dapper flight 3 cd and make sure to upgrade to the latest packages. You will basically have a fully working system. Any problems you may have will most likely be minor and will probably be fixed in the final dapper release.

That said, dapper still is a testing release so if it fubars your computer, dont come hunting me down
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post #30 of 53
2/15/06 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by Delvien
Emifreq allows you to manually control your cpu speed ( and it can be run WITH powernowd) i always have mine on powersaving when running on batteries.


As for undervolting, is there a WIKI or a guide i can safely follow :P ?
As you can't clock the P-M with 533 FSB below 800 Mhz I don't see why two speedstep daeomons, powernowd and emifreq would help when comparing only powerconsumption in idle at 800 MHz.

As for undervolting P-M on linux I suggest this page:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Undervolt_a_Pentium_M_CPU
Best prework is to find stable undervoltages for the various speedsetting with nhc on windows.
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post #31 of 53
2/15/06 at 11:51am
Hmm when is dapper getting released? Gonna be putting that one on my powerbook.

Seablade
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post #32 of 53
2/15/06 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by seablade
Hmm when is dapper getting released? Gonna be putting that one on my powerbook.

Seablade
its in the name, Daper 6.04

thus, sometime in April of 2006.


Ubuntu has 6 months release cycles.

started with Warty Warthog 4.10 (sept 2004)
then Hoary Hatchhog 5.04 (april 2005)
currently Breezy Badger 5.10 (sept 2005)
next Daper Drake 6.04 (april 2006)
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post #33 of 53
2/15/06 at 7:25pm
I was wondering how they were doing the versioning numbers...

Seablade
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post #34 of 53
2/15/06 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by egalus
As you can't clock the P-M with 533 FSB below 800 Mhz I don't see why two speedstep daeomons, powernowd and emifreq would help when comparing only powerconsumption in idle at 800 MHz.

As for undervolting P-M on linux I suggest this page:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Undervolt_a_Pentium_M_CPU
Best prework is to find stable undervoltages for the various speedsetting with nhc on windows.
no no no .. you can manually put the cpu freq down to 800 no matter what the load is. so that if your running on battery power and running high power apps, it wont drain your battery with the max freq for the CPU.


And i have tried patching the kernel , (and have just tried again.) But the patch is not "compatible" with my kernel, but im not experienced enough to edit it so it fits in my kernel.
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post #35 of 53
2/16/06 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Delvien
no no no .. you can manually put the cpu freq down to 800 no matter what the load is. so that if your running on battery power and running high power apps, it wont drain your battery with the max freq for the CPU.
You can do this with powernowd too.
Set "-u 100" and it can't change to higher speeds anymore.

But still, using another speedstep daemon won't change anything when comparing powerusage on idle and 800MHz and that's still the part that is interesting, cause linux uses more "basepower" than windows on my i6k, which leads to shorter runtimes.
It's like linux is running with brightness 2 notches higher than windows all the time, but without the effect of more light.

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And i have tried patching the kernel , (and have just tried again.) But the patch is not "compatible" with my kernel, but im not experienced enough to edit it so it fits in my kernel.
Which kernel are you using? With 2.6.15 it definately works.
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post #36 of 53
2/16/06 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by egalus


Which kernel are you using? With 2.6.15 it definately works.

2.6.15-15-i386, can you write a howto for me ? hehe
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post #37 of 53
2/17/06 at 9:47am
I used a vanilla 2.6.15 - the i386 is compiled for 386 cpus, but you have a much more powerful cpu, why waste computing power for downward compatibility to such an old cpu? Do you plan taking the hdd out of your laptop and putting it into a 386?

The link to the gentoo-wiki for undervolting p-ms is already a howto that works perfectly on vanilla 2.6.15 kernels (nothing else was available on dapper or breezy when I installed the lappy) and is complete in almost every way I can think of.
Do the patch like explained there and make your own kernel. If you send me a pm with your emailadress I can send you my kernel-config so you don't need to find out everything useful yourself (you just have to change from build in graphics to ati). Of course I do not take any responsibility if this config does not work for you (but at it is already the 14th version of my 2.6.15 kernelconfig I guess it's already quite good).

If you have problems following the wiki I suggest you write down what you did and what does not work after that.
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post #38 of 53
2/17/06 at 11:02pm
what do i put in when it asks me "File to patch" ?
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post #39 of 53
2/18/06 at 12:51am
Thanks for the informative thread... in particular, member "abf". I came to this forum specifically to look into putting Linux on my Dell Inspiron 6000. I'm currently dual-booting SuSE 10 & XP on my desktop, but was looking into putting Linux only on the laptop. I have used Ubuntu & Edubuntu (for the kiddie), so getting through the install on the laptop shouldn't be too difficult. I was wondering what unique issues I would have putting Linux on a lappie vice desktop. I think I'm armed enough now to give it a shot.

Thanks Again!
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post #40 of 53
2/18/06 at 1:37am
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Originally Posted by Whiplash
Thanks for the informative thread... in particular, member "abf". I came to this forum specifically to look into putting Linux on my Dell Inspiron 6000. I'm currently dual-booting SuSE 10 & XP on my desktop, but was looking into putting Linux only on the laptop. I have used Ubuntu & Edubuntu (for the kiddie), so getting through the install on the laptop shouldn't be too difficult. I was wondering what unique issues I would have putting Linux on a lappie vice desktop. I think I'm armed enough now to give it a shot.

Thanks Again!
Stuff kinda unique to laptops:
1. wifi
2. bluetooth
3. (built-in) flash card readers
4. webcams
5. pcmcia devices
6. (crappy) integrated audio

That's about it. If you can get those devices working then you're golden.
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