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post #21 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by anettis
I see a number of potential issues with these (and most USB headsets): 1) They add noticeable CPU overhead when compared to the internal sound card due to USB communications management. (If you don't believe me simply switch back and fourth between the USB headset and the internal speakers - by simply connecting/disconnecting the USB - when playing an MP3. As you do this watch the CPU utilization graph - major difference. 2) If you have an expensive sound card i.e. Audigy NX this headset would bypass it. 3) The USB sound card included does not include support for any EAX effects.
Well, I don't know if your trying to just push your Seinheisers, but your potential problems are negligible depending on what you want, but if you want to attempt to bash the headset, then that's fine.

It may use cpu overhead, but it doesn't make a difference in performance or quality of the headset. I don't sit there and analyze the cpu overhead. If they work just fine and don't effect my game play or my system performance, I don't really care. Yes, I have seen the cpu utilization, but it doesn't make a difference in performance one bit.

Yes, it's going to bypass a sound card, but the quality of sound built into the headset is outstanding.

And it doesn't support EAX sound, whoopy crap. I've heard these headsets and speakers that are using a sound card that supports EAX and the sound difference is negligible.
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post #22 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:07pm
For the price, the Game Com ones from plantronics are GREAT. I have them and love them (non USB). I also have the medusa's and those a great if you have 5.1, wich you don't so a non issue (I would not recomend anything USB).
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post #23 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:09pm
If you have a sound card, then I certainly wouldn;t be looking for a USB headset, Obviously, use your SC. I'd be looking at 5.1 headset then, however.
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post #24 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by flick
Well, I don't know if your trying to just push your Seinheisers, but your potential problems are negligible depending on what you want, but if you want to attempt to bash the headset, then that's fine.

It may use a cpu overhead, but it doesn't make a difference in performance or quality of the headset. I don't sit there and analyze the cpu overhead. If they work just fine and don't effect my game play or my system performance, I don't really care. Yes, I have seen the cpu utilization, but it doesn't make a difference in performance one bit.

Yes, it's going to bypass a sound card, but the quality of sound built into the headset is outstanding.

And it doesn't support EAX sound, whoopy crap. I've these headsets and speakers that are using a sound card the supports EAX and the sound difference is negligible.
He didn't even mention his Sennheisers in that particular post, he was simply stating that USB headsets DO take up some CPU power. Just because it doesn't "effect" your performance, doesn't mean it won't for someone else.
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post #25 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by Tyrant
He didn't even mention his Sennheisers in that particular post, he was simply stating that USB headsets DO take up some CPU power. Just because it doesn't "effect" your performance, doesn't mean it won't for someone else.
It doesn't take up that much cpu. It probably won't "effect" 99% of the people here. That's why I said its performance effect was negligible. I used 4 different systems ranging from PIII to an X2 4800+ and none had any impact on performance.

I've been using these headsets for over a 1 year now, dsp 500's and gamecon, and his "potential problems" are a crock of s***.
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post #26 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by flick
Well, I don't know if your trying to just push your Seinheisers, but your potential problems are negligible depending on what you want, but if you want to attempt to bash the headset, then that's fine.

It may use a cpu overhead, but it doesn't make a difference in performance or quality of the headset. I don't sit there and analyze the cpu overhead. If they work just fine and don't effect my game play or my system performance, I don't really care. Yes, I have seen the cpu utilization, but it doesn't make a difference in performance one bit.

Yes, it's going to bypass a sound card, but the quality of sound built into the headset is outstanding.

And it doesn't support EAX sound, whoopy crap. I've these headsets and speakers that are using a sound card the supports EAX and the sound difference is negligible.
I was not trying to bash anything nor was I trying to create sales for Seinheiser. The points I bring to light are fairly significant and a causal user may or may not realize the implications.

For example a lot of people on this board have upgraded to an Audigy NX - it would be kind of silly for them to have a top of the line sound card which is effectively bypassed due to their choice of a USB headset.

Also a lot of hard core gamers are specifically interested in EAX (I am not one of them) so they need to know that they are giving up the capability to use exploit the various versions of EAX that are common among games.

As for CPU performance I agree this isn't a deal breaker. But again the hard core gamer crowd often weighs performance considerations heavily (which is a purported benefit of going with the Audigy NX). So by going with a USB solution not only do you forfeit any possible performance gains of an Audigy NX type of solution but you loose measurable performance over the on-board sound.
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post #27 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by anettis
I was not trying to bash anything nor was I trying to create sales for Seinheiser. The points I bring to light are fairly significant and a causal user may or may not realize the implications.

For example a lot of people on this board have upgraded to an Audigy NX - it would be kind of silly for them to have a top of the line sound card which is effectively bypassed due to their choice of a USB headset.

Also a lot of hard core gamers are specifically interested in EAX (I am not one of them) so they need to know that they are giving up the capability to use exploit the various versions of EAX that are common among games.

As for CPU performance I agree this isn't a deal breaker. But again the hard core gamer crowd often weighs performance considerations heavily (which is a purported benefit of going with the Audigy NX). So by going with a USB solution not only do you forfeit any possible performance gains of an Audigy NX type of solution but you loose measurable performance over the on-board sound.

Agreed.

Sorry about the Seinheiser bash. I don't know where that came from. Your right in every point.

It depends what you want and how hardcore you are. If your not analyzing the numbers and don't have a Audigy NX, then I believe these are the absolute best headset for sound and comfort.
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post #28 of 36
2/14/06 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by flick
Agreed.

Sorry about the Seinheiser bash. I don't know where that came from. Your right in every point.

It depends what you want and how hardcore you are. If your not analyzing the numbers and don't have a Audigy NX, then I believe these are the absolute best headset for sound and comfort.
No problem. Although I must admit I was preparing a retalitory strike.
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post #29 of 36
2/14/06 at 4:08pm
lol. Sorry.
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post #30 of 36
2/14/06 at 4:22pm
You can also get the Gamecom 1 which is not USB and cheaper. They are great. http://www.plantronics.com/gaming/en_US/index.html
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post #31 of 36
2/14/06 at 5:55pm
I have shure headphones that stick in your ear like ear plugs and the sennheiser tr120 cordless headphones and they are awesome. I hear things that I cant with other headphones. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0oJuuDC...nfo&i=143RS120
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post #32 of 36
2/14/06 at 5:59pm
Medusa 5.1s if you have a audigy 2 zs and want amplified headphones... they rule.

Someone asked me on BF2 if I had "miracle ears" since I could hear a truck coming up the road in the direction I was facing... I said "Nope, just surround sound headphones"
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post #33 of 36
2/14/06 at 6:30pm
http://www.xoxide.com/headphones.html
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post #34 of 36
2/14/06 at 8:56pm
My Desktop has headphone jacks on the front.
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post #35 of 36
2/15/06 at 1:08am
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Originally Posted by Penguin1257
Medusa 5.1s if you have a audigy 2 zs and want amplified headphones... they rule.

Someone asked me on BF2 if I had "miracle ears" since I could hear a truck coming up the road in the direction I was facing... I said "Nope, just surround sound headphones"

Thats awesome dude, I'm planning to get the audigy 2/Medusa 5.1 next month. i've heard nothing but great things about it!
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post #36 of 36
2/15/06 at 1:18am
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Originally Posted by Chesney09
Have had no problems with hurting my ears.. and the sound is pretty AOK. I can't complain about it at all.

I like the USB as it is easier that plugging in two jacks all the time. And if you use it on a desktop as well, or would wish to.. You'll be fighting with swapping Speaker plugs in and out. The USB just works when you plug it in and when you take it out, it goes ack to the normal speakers.
The Logitech 350 is a slick package with a single USB connection. I found I would accidently mute myself but did like the volume control. The noise canceling mic is very good. But until I tried good plantronics I didnt hear what I was missing. It hurt my ears, but I have big ears.
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