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post #1 of 16
1/15/04 at 12:36am
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Hi There,

I had a long post about different RAMS, somehow it crashed.

Well what do you think about RAM upgrade?

Crucial (512MB = $126) for example talks about excellent quality and ISO9001 compliant.

But King Max (512 MB = $88) is also ISO9001 compliant. Perhaps it is just cheaper because it's made in Taiwan and not USA (wages!).

And there is the SAMSUNG/TMTC 1GB KIT (2X512) DDR 333 PC2700 which is really cheap $173.00 and thats because one of them makes the RAM chips and the other company build them on Ram-boards. I wrote them about more SPECS.

What do you think? Is price the most important thing and is there a quality difference at all?

Houmi
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post #2 of 16
1/15/04 at 12:51am
not sure, but from my experience so far on the boards is that most people on here upgrade w/ Crucial, and I believe they have a lifetime warranty...hopefully someone can provide more info for ya...btw there are massive amounts of posts by other forum members on here about ram...I'll see if I can post a link for ya
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post #3 of 16
1/15/04 at 1:24am
When will PC3200 for lappies become more commonplace. I have heard the Kingmax (which is the only one I know of shipping it) is basically hit or miss as to whether the chips you get will work or not. I am holding out for Kingston or Crucial...names that are well known and trust-worthy!
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post #4 of 16
1/15/04 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Yang88She
not sure, but from my experience so far on the boards is that most people on here upgrade w/ Crucial, and I believe they have a lifetime warranty...hopefully someone can provide more info for ya...btw there are massive amounts of posts by other forum members on here about ram...I'll see if I can post a link for ya
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Besides Kingmax gives you also lifetime warranty. I read it on their site.

It's a hard decision...

Houmi
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post #5 of 16
1/15/04 at 2:33am
I would reccomend Kingmax which you can find for as low as $85.00 per 512MB stick at sites like Newegg.com these 2700 rated sticks technically use less energy and produce less heat BGA technology is better than TSOP
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post #6 of 16
1/15/04 at 3:37am
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Originally Posted by DELL-Machina
BGA technology is better than TSOP
What is that?

Houmi
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post #7 of 16
1/15/04 at 3:56am
Im sorry I should have explained. Its the type of chip used on the memory dimms. GBA is cheaper to produce, uses less energy, smaller in design, higher yields. but the technology is prioritized highest in video cards thus leaving little room for the general memeory market which memmory empires like Samsung, Hyundai, LG the Korean Monopolies of memmory like to build that which was most invested in TSOP which is the traditional technoloy your familiar with. The difference betweeon the 2 physically is the TSOP is long and integrated by the sides where as the BGA ships are small stocky and connected from cneter out.
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post #8 of 16
1/15/04 at 4:08am
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Originally Posted by DELL-Machina
The difference betweeon the 2 physically is the TSOP is long and integrated by the sides where as the BGA ships are small stocky and connected from cneter out.

Wow thats explains what the Kingmax looked first weird to me. As you have said they look like as the chips are bumped on the board while crucial chips are integrated by sides.

Compare:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage....155-104-01.JPG

http://www.crucial.com/crucial/pvtco...=200-pinSODIMM

Good to know that Kingmax is not only faster but has also a more sophisticated technology.

Thanks for explanation,
Houmi
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post #9 of 16
1/15/04 at 4:12am
as far as the kingmax ram goes, i'm not quite sure which 512 chip to get lol...yeah i know i'm a newb...i have a 600M...just curious so I have the info when I decide to bump up the ram
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post #10 of 16
1/15/04 at 1:39pm
benefits are across the board. It offers lower power consumption, lower temperatures and cheaper than standard ram i would suggest KingMax but im not putting a gun to your head. besides that if you can get Samsung Ram at a killer price thats always a great choice as well
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post #11 of 16
1/28/04 at 7:53pm
I went with Machina's suggestion. I picked up a stick of Kingmax ram for 39 bones at newegg. Dirt cheap upgrade to bring my system up to 512 megs.
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post #12 of 16
1/28/04 at 7:59pm
Check the latency of the chips...thats what is important...not the technology used or the heat produced...its marginal anyway
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post #13 of 16
1/28/04 at 9:49pm
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Originally Posted by gsferrari
Check the latency of the chips...thats what is important...not the technology used or the heat produced...its marginal anyway

Latency is 2. Lower than crucial.

Houmi
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post #14 of 16
1/28/04 at 11:36pm
Unfortunetly Unless the motherboard supports aggressive timings you will not notice the imporvements the CL2 timing offers you
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post #15 of 16
1/29/04 at 12:18am
Adding to DM's inputs, the package used in Kingmax is what is called Ball Grid Array and exists in several package formats. This is better compared to TSOP in terms of electrical & thermal performance since the some of the interconnect on the die/chip can be routed directly on the substrate or in layman's term, the connecting interface between the board and the chip. The soldering interface is also through the use of solder balls which is better for interconnect reliability compared the leads on the TSOP. It is typically more expensive than TSOP but Kingmax price as you can see is the cheapest. I'm surpriced that Kingmax is getting this type of package technology at a very competitive price (not usre if they're making money on this).
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post #16 of 16
1/29/04 at 3:28am
The technology is actually cheaper but since mass production of BGA type ram chips now exceed TSOP based ones thanks to Video cards its now cost effective for companies liek Samsung and Kingmax to sell BGA based ram. In the end you pay less for better ram! hurray for capitalism!
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