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post #1 of 28
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Hi All,

I hope most of the forum readers are already enlightened to the other browsers that are available for windows but my favourite browser (Opera) comes into it's own on the Widescreen 9400.

I've used Opera for years now (mainly due to unsurpassed features) and distrust of IE, but with the 9400, Opera really comes into it's own.

Any web page you come across your not happy with screen scaling etc, on Opera just hold down CTRL and use your wheel mouse button to Zoom IN - OUT. Font Scaling etc is superb.

My default Page Zoom in Opera is set at 120% but it's just so easy to use above combination to get an excellent rendering of every site you visit !

Opera also runs on Mac / Linux.

OK I'm an Opera fan but it's superb on this PC.

Opera Loverboy Advert Over

Dougie.

http://www.opera.com/download/
post #2 of 28
I use Firefox. I not bashing Opera, I just like Firefox more.
post #3 of 28
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Originally Posted by Ludic
I use Firefox. I not bashing Opera, I just like Firefox more.
Does Firefox have a Zoom function like Opera ?

Firefox comes as a default on most Linux distro's, (I use Ubuntu) but Opera recently removed there advertising from the free download and now It's Completely FREE

Don't get me wrong, I love Open Source etc, but comparing Opera to Firefox is like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Ford Escort (IE Exploder comes in as a Model-T Ford)

Dougie.
post #4 of 28
Firefox is an incredible piece of software, it definately blows IE out of the water, I'm not an Opera user nor have I tried it but why you gotta be bashin Firefox? Firefox does more than I need and is always running smoothly. Please tell me some features that makes comparing Opera to Firefox like Rolls Royce is to a Ford Excort. Also the Model-T is a nice vehicle(even though it is a Ford), and instead IE should come in as the Ford Pinto!
post #5 of 28
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Originally Posted by bigmo
Firefox is an incredible piece of software, it definately blows IE out of the water, I'm not an Opera user nor have I tried it but why you gotta be bashin Firefox? Firefox does more than I need and is always running smoothly. Please tell me some features that makes comparing Opera to Firefox like Rolls Royce is to a Ford Excort. Also the Model-T is a nice vehicle(even though it is a Ford), and instead IE should come in as the Ford Pinto!
Who's bashing Firefox ?

I already stated in my original post that it's the opera zoom feature that comes into it's own.

I'll upload images when I get to work in the morning but you'll get the 'picture' of my post then


Why don't you download Opera and try it, say way I did with Firefox ?

Firefox has extensions (most of these are ideas copied from Opera).
post #6 of 28
Ya I failed to mention that Firefox does have the ZOOM feature. I will try Opera and compare! I expect it to be very good and will definately find out!
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by bigmo
Ya I failed to mention that Firefox does have the ZOOM feature. I will try Opera and compare! I expect it to be very good and will definately find out!
Just checked Firefox's implementation and it's an extremley poor imitation of the original (Opera), though you've probably discovered that by now

Don't forget Opera are the World Leader's in small screen web rendering technology (it may be on your mobile) - screen rendering is one of their specialities.

Dougie.
post #8 of 28
Well their Windows version is a pain in the ass to personalize that is for sure. It's off the computer already. The biggest selling point of anything is personalization and ease of use. This program isn't even doing things you would think are very common. One is the Ctrl+Enter to autocomplete the URL an example typing gmail and hitting Ctrl+Enter makes it http://www.gmail.com. The other thing that I find most useful in Firefox is the Bookmarks bar. I have the bookmarks all across the top of my screen allowing for easy middle click action etc. to easily access my most often used sites. I'm sure there is a way to do this although I could not figure it out in 15 minutes. That is too long at least for me! I don't know, I guess Opera is right for some but not all. I thank you for getting me to try but I will stick to Firefox, even though it is an "extremely poor imitation of the original (Opera)". Opera might look, feel and work great on mobile phones, but in my opinion they need to do a little work on the Windows. A few key features that aren't easily accessible, if they even exist.
post #9 of 28
I've been using Opera for years on 'Doze and Linux, but the latest one has a really neat feature. If you Go to View->Toolbars->Customize and select the View Bar, there'll be button on the bar's right called "Fit to window width". It reformats windows with long lines (like forums) to fit the window. Best thing since sliced bread.

- Ed
post #10 of 28
bigmo,

Just enter gmail in the address bar and hit return and Opera will expand it. If the url has a .org or other end part, type somewhere.org, hit enter, and it'll put the right full url in.

For the other part, make the personal bar visible (I think it is by default), then click "show in personal bar" when you bookmark, or select the properties of an existing bookmark and check the same.

I really like the mailer part with its fast find boxes - almost as good as the BeOS mailer ;-) And the notes area - great replacement for paper while working.

- Ed
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by efalis
I've been using Opera for years on 'Doze and Linux, but the latest one has a really neat feature. If you Go to View->Toolbars->Customize and select the View Bar, there'll be button on the bar's right called "Fit to window width". It reformats windows with long lines (like forums) to fit the window. Best thing since sliced bread.

- Ed
CTRL-F11 does the 'Fit To Window Width'

Most people don't love opera 'out of the box' and i do believe there default settings around 2 years ago would have suited more users on first use, but for the people that spend that extra 15 minutes reading and learning a small bit about the software they use, well, they set themselves up for life using a superior product.

As I stated earlier, i am an opera fanboy, but I only have 24 years experience in IT behind me and i'm always open to something that's better (which aint firefox), especially on this beast of 9400 LOL

Dougie.
post #12 of 28
I've used opera for a couple of years, then switched to firefox over a year ago. Since i design websites, I still have and use and test with Opera too. Firefox is my preferred browser by *far*. Opera has the kitchen sink approach - put a bunch of features you may or may not use into the browser and load it up with features. A lot of these features are great and many new users may find functionality that they never knew they needed/liked so much.

Firefox has *everything* opera has, and much, much, more - by the way of Extensions. Basically you start out with a 'base' configuration and then pick what addons you want to extend firefox's functionality with. I could list examples of features, but it would take forever. Basically, almost anything practical (and realistic) that you can think of, Firefox has it.

Opera is a great browser for sure, but in my opinion Firefox is more customizeable, faster, and stable. There's a lot more community support for it too. Not to mention the fox logo is cute.
post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by Sydney_bristow
Opera is a great browser for sure, but in my opinion Firefox is more customizeable, faster, and stable. There's a lot more community support for it too. Not to mention the fox logo is cute.
Well someone better knock down that Zoom function extension, get some planning permission and a new architect and start from scratch.

Firefox is good, 100% better than IE but every user to his/her 'favourite' browser. I'm just letting people know that their are other browsers apart from IE that are far more suited and customizable to their own preferences, especially on the 9400/E1705

Dougie.
post #14 of 28
I've used firefox and opera, and I prefer opera. The only deciding factor on opera for me is that if i close opera with 5 tabs open, those tabs will reopen when I reopen opera.
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by tman2093
The only deciding factor on opera for me is that if i close opera with 5 tabs open, those tabs will reopen when I reopen opera.
Firefox has an extension for that too You can have firefox remember what tabs you had open when you last closed it, and the next time you open firefox, it'll load up those tabs again. In the wacky event that firefox crashes, it also has the tabs saved.

It's called Sessionsaver. In fact, you can save 'sets' of tabs that you want open and load them at any time.

For example, let's make a weird scenario up in which you like to load up 4 message boards and a cow tipping site at the same time. You do this every day . You can have firefox save that configuration, and have it load up those 5 tabs exactly like that at any moment.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/SessionSaver

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There's also a great advantage that Firefox has that opera doesnt. Ever notice that some webpages dont render correctly in either firefox or opera? Such as msn.com, or some sites with embedded videos, etc. That's because they're optimized for Internet explorer and use proprietary code that only IE takes advantage of.

With Opera, you'd have to fire up IE to view those pages properly.

Firefox has the ability to emulate IE inside a tab so it reads and renders the page exactly as IE would, without having to load up a seperate IE window. You can set it to remember which pages to always emulate as an IE tab, or you can just click once anytime to toggle back and forth between Firefox and IE modes.

The extension is called IE tab.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extension...fo.php?id=1419

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One more: A site based Javascript white list. Basically this does a global ban on javascript until you click to enable it to those sites that you know that it's safe from. Excerpt from PCworld: "The only way to block JavaScripts on a site-by-site basis in the Mozilla Foundation's free Firefox browser is to download and install the NoScript add-in that was created by Giorgio Maone. NoScript places a warning bar at the bottom of all the Web pages you visit that use JavaScript. Click the bar to see options for allowing scripts on the site (permanently or temporarily), blocking scripts, and other operations (see the NoScript screen below)." This helps a lot for security, and between this and firefox's natural defenses, I never get popups.

http://www.noscript.net/whats

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There's just a lot that you can add to firefox depending on your preferences cause it's a 'build your dream browser' type deal with rich community support.



Honestly, tho, you really cannot go wrong with either browser. To each their own. (As long as it's not IE!)
post #16 of 28
Opera is also a nice browser, but i do not like opera, ever tried, but as an ex netscape navigator fan... no.

Opera has:
bad DHTML, some errors on CSS test sites, some missing DOM functions, missing XSLT, no extensions.

I love adblock. to clean these bad flash animated garbage ads.

And firefox with "network.http.pipelining" (about:config) enabled is a rocket.
Only faster rendering is konqueror from KDE, one point why Apple has the khtml engine in MacOSX Safari browser preferred...

Marcus
post #17 of 28
Opera Rocks is real cool, and it's how they say the fastest browser on earth, the only downside is all of the firefox plugin wich are great to, so as people say you won't make a mistake with either choice
post #18 of 28
You can modify opera a little like firefox's extensions. I have a button on my toolbar in opera thatll open my current tab in IE if opera can't load it.
post #19 of 28
IE7 blows both of them out of the water. Im not a M$ fanboy, but IE7 is really good.

The only thing lacking is mouse gestures. Apart from that, i'd take it over FF and OPERA any day.

Its super speedy. FF takes up so much ram and is sluggish.

Oop and also it lacks the tons of FF Extensions. BUt purely browsing perspective, ie7 wins all. Def faster than opera which is supposedly the fastest browser evah
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by sprockett
IE7 blows both of them out of the water. Im not a M$ fanboy, but IE7 is really good.

The only thing lacking is mouse gestures. Apart from that, i'd take it over FF and OPERA any day.

Its super speedy. FF takes up so much ram and is sluggish.

Oop and also it lacks the tons of FF Extensions. BUt purely browsing perspective, ie7 wins all. Def faster than opera which is supposedly the fastest browser evah
Yeh M$£$£$£ Fanboy,

Just don't do any online banking on it. You think Mr. Bill Gates Does
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