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Acer Aspire 5670 First Impressions

post #1 of 20
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Hello everyone. As some of you may know,
I picked up the acer 5670 from a friend at
compusa yesterday for a mere $1000 after
employee discount and rebates. I got this
notebook to be my portable, as my sager
5720 can crush in the games dept, but I need
something a little more portable that I can just
whip out quickly. So, while my 5720 is being
painted at smooth-creations I will be getting
to know this notebook a lot better.

Here are some of my first impressions:

The Screen -

I had read a lot of complaints over the screen.
This was more in regards to the travelmate 8200
series. However, I also read some people complain
about this screen as well. I have been using my
sager 5720 with 1920x1200 resolution constantly
now for about 2 months now. In comparison, I am
please with the 5670's screen. It gets plenty bright.
I would say it is a very average gloss type screen.
I have no complaints in this department. For a screen
with a 1280X800 resolution it is very nice.

The Keyboard -

The keyboard isn't too bad. It isn't as nice feeling
as the sony keyboards, but it does feel more durable
then say a s-460 vaio's keyboard. One thing that
is rather annoying is that when you type the middle
button for the trackpad vibrates making this very
noticable noise. I have read that someone put a
small sliver of rubber down into the gap and that
took care of the noise. Later, I actually did the same thing.
I placed a small sliver of eraser down into the crevice between
the track pad and the middle button. This eliminated the
springy noise that is very annoying and constant when typing.

After using the keyboard for a while now, I have gotten
used to it. However, it does have some flex to it. It would
say it is not as good as the one on the 5720, which I am
really starting to miss lol ...

There are some music/video keys on the left hand side of the keyboard.
I had not used the keys at all, and didn't really pay any attention to them.
But today I can confirm that they work in most music and video programs.
I tested them to work in itunes, winamp, and windows media player.

The Trackpad -

I very rarley use trackpads on notebooks. I just
do not like them. I have never found one that was
really good. I have owned no less than 12 different
notebooks in the past 2 years, and not one of them
has been noticably better than the others. I absolutely
despise the trackpad on my 5720. I never ever use it. Instead
I carry around a usb-key laser mouse by microsoft. That
being said, this trackpad is surprisingly good. The
middle button did not work how it should have
when I first started up the machine. But with a new
driver download it now works fine.
This trackpad has to be the first that I have
ever liked! Synaptics provided the trackpad for the 5670,
and it is phenominal to use. No jumping around like most.



Heat-Noise-etc -

This is surprisingly a very quiet notbook. You cannot
hear the fan, but a very faint air flow. Of course I am
use to hearing my 5720, but in comparison to a 12"
ibook it is just slightly louder. The heat is no issue at
all. The palm rests get slightly warm. The air vent is
towards the back of the right hand side of the notebook.
It doesn't ever seem to get hot, but just slightly warm.
When under heavy load you can start to feel the warmth
build up under your hands as you type. But this is normal.
I have continuously ran bit-torrent (up&downloading), dvd decryptor,
dvd shrink (encoding dvd video), nero burning rom (dvd), several
internet windows, word, adobe photoshop cs, limewire, and a game.
There is no slowdown, or delays while running all of this stuff.


Contrarily to the sager 5720, it does not disrubpt my entire
class when the fan kicks in. It is very quiet.


The Sound -

The sound isn't great, but what can you expect now
days from a notebook. The speakers are in the front.
They sound pretty good, but not great. If you compare
it to the 5720 it is about them same. The audio jacks,
mic jacks etc, are all in the front. This can be a bit of
a pain since if you wanted to hook your notebook into
a set of speakers you would have to route the wire from
the front of the notebook. The multi-card reader, wan,
bluetooth, and activity lights are also all in the front.
Oddly enough, nothing is on the back of the notebook,
except for the LAN connecter and DVI out. There are
four usb 2.0 ports. There are two on the left side close
to the front, and 2 on the right side right in the middle.
I can see why this would irritate some people. I would
also prefer the ports to be in the back. Also on the right
side is the vga out, s-video out, one mini 4-pin firewire
port, and the pc card slot. On the left side is the slot-loading
dvd-rw drive. As some may know slot-loading drives are
loud. But, for some odd reason I like them much better
than trays. I am always afraid that I am going to
somehow break the tray.

One thing I have learned about slot loading drives: You
cannot use the small media. For example the mini-cd's
or the mini-dvds that you use with camcorders. I have a sony
camcorder that I have been using. I had to use my desktop's dvd
drive because the slot-loading cannot take it (obvious maybe but
possibly overlooked).

I installed the audigy pcmcia card. I had tried to install this card
in my sager, which only caused chaos and havoc. There however,
are no issues at all with this card and this notebook. The two work
flawlessly together. All I did was load up the drivers and then installed
the card. The sound through the card is beautiful. I tested the sound on
two sets of headphones: Turtle Beach Ear Force HPA surround sound headphones,
and my set of AudioTechnica ATH-A900's. Both sounded very nice. Even through some
crappy sony vaio desktop speakers the sound is nice (shown in pic).



Initial Setup:

The initial setup is rediculous. If you let it run through,
the system will unpack and install a whole onslaught of
junk that you will not want. This process also takes
several reboots and a total time of close to one hour.
This is very redundant since you will spend another
hour getting it all off. If you have your own copy of
windows xp pro, I would suggest that you just pop it
in and reformat the whole thing. You can get all the
drivers you need off of various website, and mostly
from the acer website. You will also see a boost in
performance if you do this. Not very much, but enough to be worth it.

You will see that the stock setup will be running on a hard drive
format of FAT32. I have always used NTFS and prefer to do so.
When I formatted the hdd to put my own copy of winxp pro on
I reformated in ntfs and also recovered the partition that contains
all the backup software.

Battery Life:

As far as the battery life is concerned, It is about the same a pentium
mobile notebooks (or now core solo). This notebook gets about 3 hours
battery life using acer's powermanagement software which is included.
This software is not that great, but it does allow you to taper the
processor speed and turn off unwanted devices. The 3 hours is achieved
with turning off firewire, lan, cardbus, and bluetooth (wireless is left on of course)
screen brightness at 50% (can go lower to get more life) and processor management
on max battery. Once Notebook Hardware Control comes out with support for the
core duo chipset you will surely be able to get more battery life. (afterall with nhc
I have had nearly 3 hours from my sager 5720!)

Motion Camera : Acer Orbicam

The camera built into the top of the screen works really good. It can rotate
down and back so that it is viewing what is in front of the notebook. The camera
I believe is a 1.3 Megapixel. It also actually has a zooming lense which most do not.
This is very much needed when you are using a camer mounted on the top of the
screen. Even though it is better than the sager camera that is non-zoomable and
cannot be rotated, if you are going to be doing a lot of web-caming then you will
probably want to get a standalone usb type.

Games:

Call Of Duty 2:

Here are my settings for COD2:
Resoultion: 1280X768
Filtering: Anistropic
DirectX Mode: 7
Soften Smoke Edges: Everything
All Textures: Extra
Anti-Aliasing: off

FPS: 70-110

With these settings I get 70-110 fps. This is
very playable. But, with all honesty playing
with direct x 9 is not an option. With very low
settings under direct x 9 it was unplayable at
17-25 fps. However, I play COD 2 multiplayer
with direct x 7 anyway because it allows me
to play better, and at a high resolution (on my sager)
there is very little difference between the two.

F.E.A.R : DEMO

I downloaded the demo of fear to just see what it could do.
I have played fear on several machines and even with my high
performance desktop fear could not be put to max.
Here are the results:

Since it was the demo I could not get the fps range like in the actual
game. But, the game was very playable at the following settings.

Resolution: 1024X768
Anistropic Filtering 2X
All vga settings to Medium
Volumetric Lights Off

The game looks pretty good - Again I am used to 7800gtx sli I might be biased
But under these settings the game is very playable.

PCMARK05:

This is the first time I have used pcmark to benchmark a system. Since
this system is not a graphic superpower, i thought this might give a
little bit better feel on how powerful the system is.
Here is the ORB link -
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=303634
The score was 2996

3DMark05:
*again, crummy drivers and no overclocking options yet*
3Dmark score of 1716
CPU Score of 4604
Here is the ORB link -
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1825167

In Conclusion:

I would not reccomend this notebook for avid gamers.
I will say, this is not a gaming notebook. You will
see much more performance from the 6600 go or
x700 256mb equipped machines.

However, I have not been able to find out how to
overclock the X1400. ATI's drivers are indeed horrid,
and the modded ones offer little benefit. ATI Tool,
and ATI System Tray do not work as of yet for this
notebook. I believe this to be more a problem of the
motherboard/chipset/bios, and not the gpu iteself.
We will more than likely see better performance boosts in
this area in the future as more tweaks and drivers are released.


Indeed, once various tools are developed this notebook
will be a lot more useful. As of now you are stuck with
the provided acer power utility to set power profiles.
Also, as mentioned before there is no (easily findable)
way to oc the x1400. I would hope that once the card
was oc'd it would produce more around the 2500 3Dmark05
range. This would be a sweet spot for a lot of gamers.
Honestly though, I am not sure as to why they did not
offer the x1600 in this notebook, and reserve the upcoming
x1800 -x1900? mobile gpus for the big 17"ers -

Overall, so far I would say this is the perfect
notebook for a portable solution. It can play
games, if you are just wanting to mess
around during some down time. But, it is very
thin and portable yet the screen is big enough
to not strain your eyes. It is quiet and pretty
cool on the temps so for me it makes the perfect
portable to compliment a DTR.


Hope you all enjoyed the review. I will be adding some comparison
plus additional benchmarks in the days to come.

--K1tty
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post #2 of 20
thanks for this review! I just bought the 5672 , which is very similar, and am happy with it so far.

I am very curious to know what kind of performance gain you got from reformating, etc. Please let me know! I see you got a 2157 score which seems quite a bit up from the average 1600 people are tossing around.
post #3 of 20
Yeah, I too would love to know what you did you get a 3DMark05 score like that.
post #4 of 20
Thanks for the review! Any way to utilize the front IR port w/ a remote? I like the "Media Center" type interface w/ Acer Arcade. Also, has anyone used a Treo 650's bluetooth w/ this for DUN?

Again, as others have asked, what is the jump in performance if you reformat and reinstall the OS? I don't have XP Pro, only Home, does Pro make a difference in performance?

Adios...

JD
post #5 of 20

Acer 5670

I also recently purchased the Acer 5670 and found it very useful for what I have to do. I am a photographer and this notebook is faster than I thought. I was never interested in tweaking it to make it run faster but your info sure helps if I ever decide that I want to.
post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 
I have been messing around with it a lot today. I reformatted and installed my own copy of winxp pro. But, I had to go to the european site to get the intel wireless card drivers because the US site did not have the right ones. I am now currently trying to figure out how to optimize the videocard.
I promise I will have more to add later.

I will say that there is a driver for self infared applications? Or something to that effect if you go look at the US website under drivers for the 5670 series. So, I would think you could use a remote somehow with this.

--K1tty
post #7 of 20
does the 5672 come with a bootable copy of xpp for the re-install? i've never been a big fan of all of the pre-installed stuff most computers come with, i've always re-installed fresh out of the box. i'm looking at picking up a 5672 soon, they're going for around $1600cnd w xpp, about $2-300 cheaper than a dell i6000 set up the same, any comments on the comparison? i'm also interested in using that front ir port for a remote, any one got any more info on that? i've seen pics and comments on websites about the bluetooth phone, some say it's optional, does it come with the phone or is it extra? any other comments from those who have them would be greatly apreciated.

Cheers,
post #8 of 20
Very interested in how this pans out, just got a 5672wlmi 3 days ago, the laptop is wicked, but I am annoyed at the use of fat32 and partitioning without my permission, but hey a re-install might be dooable as long as I can get all the drivers easily

p.s. to pulse 214, you do not get a windows disk with the uk version and you need 5 blank cd's or a blank dvd to create a backup at the end of the install.

p.p.s. I just thought , you guys have removed nortons from the machines and installed something less crippling havent you?

06/03/2006
I have just installed and played the F.E.A.R. demo
I have to say that this IS a gaming laptop
the fear demo ran @ 1024x768 no widescreen option !?!?!??
medium detail
and just to challenge the machine a bit I added volumetric lighting (that popped up a warning)
the ONLY thing to slow this game down was the quicksave that stopped play.

HL2 runs great too so I can honestly say this machine rocks, for current hardware.

its easily as good as a mid-gaming pc
post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 
That is great to hear. I am downloading some demo's now. I am going to finish this review today with pictures and more details. I unfortunately will probably be selling the notebook though. Not at all because I do not like it. I really do like it. But my sager 5720 will be back this week from smooth creations, and I really only need 1 notebook for now. I really just bought this notebook because It is such a great deal for what you get and I needed something to hold me over. I also love using and reviewing different notebooks, it is kind of like a hobby of mine.

--K1tty
post #10 of 20
Dear K1tty,

I'm thinking of buying an Acer Aspire 5672 (1 Gb Model) because of the price/performance. The only thing that disturbs me is that the X1400 actually underperforms the X700. I'll be heading overseas for one year as of June for studies, I'm into some moderate gaming, and I wish that it could play games (esp. FPS games like F.E.A.R.) that's debuting for the next year or so. I'll get a gaming desktop when I come back to my country, so I'm not worried that it can't last me for more that one year. After I come back the laptop would probably be used for presentations, word processing and surfing.

In your opinion would it be alright to go with an Aspire 5672?
And another question, is the RAM provided 533MHz or 667MHz?

Thanks in advance
Kain
post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 
The ram is 667Mhz, atleast with the 2Gb version. Also, the graphics card has a type of turbocache (nvidias name for it) that allows a total of 512mb memory for the x1400. It is not as powerful as the x700 256mb, but I think once some new drivers and overclocking tools come out the x1400 will perform closer to the x700. Like I said in my review, I have gotten used to top of the line graphics. I have been using 7800gtx go and 7800gtx's in sli, before that I had a 6800 ultra. But, the acer can play all the games pretty well. I have played cod2 and halflife2 with no problems. Fear as well played nice with the settings I had listed. If you are going to be buying a desktop in a year, I would say that this notebook would be fine for you.

--K1tty
post #12 of 20
Thanks for the advice... Then I think I'll most probably go with Acer Aspire 5672, unless Dell reintroduces their Inspiron 9400 with Geforce Go 7800... Once again, thanks a bunch...
post #13 of 20
Great review and pics K1tty
and good advice too

the laptop is still playing great, just tested Toca 3 demo, and have a feeling I can ramp the eye candy up even further than it recommends
post #14 of 20
I just purchased one of these bad boys last night from CompUSA as well. It seems like one of the best options that are available in an actual store that you can walk up to and demo. The price is absolutely great for what you get.

I was not going to reformat initially, but now that I think about it - if I am going to have to install all of my stuff anyway, I might as well just blow it all away right now and get to a good starting point.

I agree with most of what has been said here - this is a really nice machine for the price. The screen is great in my opinion, very readable, and very bright.
post #15 of 20
do you think I should get the travelmate 4404 or the aspire 5672? I'm using my friend's crappy 2.2 celery toshiba satellite for now, and I'm dying (my 3year old 9800xt blew out 2 weeks ago due to some heavy OC'ing).

the 4404 has a 1.8ghz ML-34 turion 64, 1gb ddr333 ram, 64mb x700, and 4200rpm 120gb (ugh). i hear it has a less then decent screen (it's matte and not glossy) however it does not come with bloatware.

the aspire I would get is 1.66 dual core, 1gb 533mhz ddr2 ram, 128mb x1400. it has a glossy screen, which is a plus and has a camera (which is cool).

the only game I really play is CS:S (i work at an investment bank so I don't have too much time anymore to play the newest games).

thanks in advance.
post #16 of 20
a 64mb gfx card would struggle with CS:S
and I would say that all acers have the same "bloatware" but again, you can uninstall all the stuff you dont want.
if you can afford the 5672 go for it.
post #17 of 20
correct me if i'm wrong but the x700 has 8 pixel pipes and 6 vertex shaders. the x1400 has 4 pipes and 2 shaders. even with the 64mb loss, the x700 would be much better for gaming.

my main concern actually is the glossy screen and the display with the 4404. I've read that a lot of people here aren't happy with the display on the 4404, or any other acer that doesn't have screenbrite. i've asked people with 4402 and 4404 how the display is, but of course they'll say it's decent b/c they already own it. i actually already ordered the 4404 but can return it for free. is it worth it?
post #18 of 20
64mb of ram on a graphics card these days with all the textures going into current games wont cut it.
yes frame for frame on benchmarks (older ones at that) it may win, but it is adviseable not to have less than 256mb of Ram on a GPU these days.

also remember the x700 is the predecessor to the x1600 so yes you would get less pipes and shaders, but for real life performance the x1400 does fine.

I am not a benchmark junkie, and I beleive that this card is quite capable for the price, if you want blazing performance, you need to get an x1600 or x1800 or GF7600 / 7800 gpu on board.
post #19 of 20
" There are some music/video keys on the left hand side of the keyboard.
I had not used the keys at all, and didn't really pay any attention to them.
But today I can confirm that they work in most music and video programs.
I tested them to work in itunes, winamp, and windows media player."

Hi K1tty,
How do you get the buttons on the side to work with winamp? Only the volume buttons function properly for me. The play/pause button will bring up winamp, but nothing plays, and the rest does nothing.
post #20 of 20
complain, complain
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