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post #1 of 16
2/19/06 at 12:47pm
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...in recent days my Xubuntu has been getting on my nerves. So what the hell i figured, download Daper right now, mirrors must be packed since i am hardly getting 40kb when usually i rack up well in the 400kb range from ubuntu mirrors. all i gotta say is this is going to take a few hours. Yes, I am downloading the latest and greatest Flight Alpha 4. I am gonna go with gnome on this one so its more of a "complete package" and it would just be interesting to see how it works out.

will keep you posted on what works and what sucks
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post #2 of 16
2/19/06 at 3:45pm
Although I am a total noob, I will also try this one. Since Breezy is not working with my Z71v, I thought i'll give FLight 4 a try.

Flight 3 worked fine. Only problem I had was nvidia drivers..

My GO 6600 fan was working load as if I was playing half life 2, and I never saw the Nvidia Logo screen when booting like with otehr distros.
SO I assume i dont have my nvidia driver proerly installed.? Help please..

ALso I am a noob and cant understand why cant i see my ntfs partitions in Ubuntu. Other distros show them just fine.

abf please help.
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post #3 of 16
2/19/06 at 4:23pm
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first of all, if you are going to download Daper Flight 4, do it through bittorrent, i am getting speeds 3x faster than i was with the direct download from the server. Still only 120-ish, but better than the 40-ish i was getting before.

Alright.

nvidia:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074

windows:
http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs


i have nvdia in my desktop, but i run mandrake 2005 on it, so can't comment on ubuntu + nvidia problems.

as to why windows doesn't show up, the fstab for breezy was broken where it would mount it, but it wouldn't show you anything. so you gotta fix it up and then it will all work solid.
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post #4 of 16
2/19/06 at 8:46pm
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just installed it... so far looks ok, although not *great* already see a few bugs, but they are not show-stoppers, so i guess i'll give it a chance.

first of all, quite happy to see all the updated packages, yet still disappointed about Gaim 1.5, so i scrapped that and installed 2.0beta2 instead

in favor of more mobility (..ie... be able to suspend) i will NOT be installing fglrx drivers. figured there is no need. video will not lag with open source ati drivers and all my fragging action is done on windows anyway. i mean, this can always change if i see so fit.
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post #5 of 16
2/19/06 at 9:21pm
I'm looking forward to the support for the VIA Unichrome K8N800 graphics chipset that is on a lot of laptop boards. It's on my Averatec 3270.

I can't wait until my screen actually shuts off and doesn't screw up majorly when X starts.

I could have rolled the drivers on my own (meaning install them - I'm a decent C programmer, but I ain't no genius), but I don't use it enough to merit the amount of time I'd spend doing that.
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post #6 of 16
2/19/06 at 9:34pm
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first of all, i tested my media card slot, no work, still.

secondly, i tested both suspend and hibernate, both don't work anyway, so i might as well give fglrx a go later down the road, while i am at it, rebuilt the kernel too or something. no idea yet if i wanna keep this thing stock and stable, or if i wanna hack around

one thing i must say, its quite a bit faster than breezy
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post #7 of 16
2/19/06 at 10:44pm
I just scrolled through the priority changes list for Dapper Drake and I came accross in the high priority list content filtering by squidguard, the same as edubuntu, man thats lame.
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post #8 of 16
2/20/06 at 12:30am
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Originally Posted by Ernest_P_Worrel
I just scrolled through the priority changes list for Dapper Drake and I came accross in the high priority list content filtering by squidguard, the same as edubuntu, man thats lame.
dont like it, disable it.

they goal is to create a simple, easy to use, home desktop friendly OS, and built in parantal controls are just what some soccer moms in america want.
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post #9 of 16
2/20/06 at 12:37am
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they goal is to create a simple, easy to use, home desktop friendly OS, and built in parantal controls are just what some soccer moms in america want.
Suddenly I am reminded of an Everclear song....

And it all makes sense.

Seablade
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post #10 of 16
2/20/06 at 12:46am
From what I've been reading lately it looks like alot of the bugs in breezy are still present in dapper, the biggest for me being the hotplug/alsa lockup issue.
Is there any reason dapper is using hotplug and not udev? I thought they essentially accomplish the same thing. Seeing so many people with hotplug issues I was really hoping they'd switch.
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post #11 of 16
2/20/06 at 1:41am
Hmm they ARENT using udev? I was under the impression udev was kinda a requirement for many of the more advanced kernels in the 2.6 line.

Seablade
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post #12 of 16
2/20/06 at 1:54am
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udev is still catching on. yes, its the new standard and yes it pretty much does the same thing as hotplug, but everyone is still on it. most distros are in a transition stage where they have both, udev does some, hotplug does some. Other distros are one or the other. I assume that by 6.10 ubuntu will go udev, and hopefully FINALLY fix the bugs that plagued breezy.
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post #13 of 16
2/20/06 at 1:59am
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Originally Posted by seablade
Hmm they ARENT using udev? I was under the impression udev was kinda a requirement for many of the more advanced kernels in the 2.6 line.

Seablade
Honestly I have no idea how the hardware detection works. I actually think you are right. But I know my Gentoo installs don't use that Hotplug Subsystem, which crashes my ubuntu systems and they seem to detect hardware just fine.
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post #14 of 16
2/20/06 at 10:34am
Udev and hotplug kinda one and the same nowdays, UDEV waits for hotplug events from the kernel and then uses info in sysfs (/sys) to act upon that event. This can be simply adding a device node (in /dev) with set permissions, calling userspace hotplug (/sbin/hotplug) to load appropriate modules, creating symlinks etc. So if you're using UDEV you're using hotplug. Because udev invokes hotplug though you're not actively starting hotplug anymore like in the old devfs days.
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post #15 of 16
2/22/06 at 2:05pm
I tried Flight 4 and it ran very cleanly. I even managed to get the XGL effects to work ... kind of. I dropped back to Breezy, though. I don't need to live on the bleeding edge, and April is only a month and a half away. I'll give them the chance to work out all the bugs.
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post #16 of 16
2/23/06 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by bigtrouble77
Lol, talk amongst yourselves (I really want to see where this one goes).
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