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post #221 of 276
6/12/06 at 8:56am
Fyi, the GTX's thermal throttle threshold is 115 degrees. Use -4 -5 -6 switches when u flash.
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post #222 of 276
6/12/06 at 9:40am
Sarg, what do you mean -4 -5 -6 switches? I dont follow, i am using NiBitor 2.7 and thats the first time I have used that program, I used nvbios rditor back in the day on my desktops ti4600. I greatly Appreciate the help, also on the temperatures tab in NiBitor 2.7 it shows 0' should i typr in 115' and save it?
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post #223 of 276
6/12/06 at 10:01am
Another thing why cant i really get the memory past 950? 1000 or more games stutter to a frezze, no arifacts just holts and stuuters
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post #224 of 276
6/12/06 at 8:44pm
Ok, I figured memory speed is one cause for failure I can go up to 950 on the memory but it doesn’t do much good because after 5 minutes or so atitool artifact scan locks up so 900 MHz is the max stable setting. Now at 1.1 the best I can do is 380 Core- 900 Memory. Now at 1.3 volts Heat becomes an issue I can get the core 475MHz even 500MHz with no artifacts but after about 8 minutes it exceeds the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="93’">93’</st1:metricconverter> threshold. Even at 450 or 425 within 10 minutes it exceeds threshold, so unless there is a way to raise the threshold higher but within reason or someone tell me or send me a 1.2 volt bios, I’m just better off leaving it at 1.1, If anyone can tell me how to raise the threshold to maybe around <st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="105’">105’</st1:metricconverter> and think it should be ok, any help would be greatly appreciated, thanx.
E1705/T2300/2 GB DDR2-667/7800GO/100GB SATA 7200
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post #225 of 276
6/12/06 at 9:00pm
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Originally Posted by NightRaverX
Ok, I figured memory speed is one cause for failure I can go up to 950 on the memory but it doesn’t do much good because after 5 minutes or so atitool artifact scan locks up so 900 MHz is the max stable setting. Now at 1.1 the best I can do is 380 Core- 900 Memory. Now at 1.3 volts Heat becomes an issue I can get the core 475MHz even 500MHz with no artifacts but after about 8 minutes it exceeds the ffice:smarttags" /><st1:metricconverter w:st="on" productid="93’">93’</st1:metricconverter> threshold. Even at 450 or 425 within 10 minutes it exceeds threshold, so unless there is a way to raise the threshold higher but within reason or someone tell me or send me a 1.2 volt bios, I’m just better off leaving it at 1.1, If anyone can tell me how to raise the threshold to maybe around <st1:metricconverter w:st="on" productid="105’">105’</st1:metricconverter> and think it should be ok, any help would be greatly appreciated, thanx.
E1705/T2300/2 GB DDR2-667/7800GO/100GB SATA 7200
use i8kfangui with fans always on high and you're safe... I reached a max oc of 485/1250 (see my sig for scores) but that isn't doable for everyday use.. I game at 430/950 with fans on high and average 83 degrees with a 1.2 (vid04) vmod... try that and see if it lowers your temps..
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post #226 of 276
6/12/06 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by Joako
O wow that card is hot! In temperature and performance per dollar
Can you check if you unlocked the other pipes with the BIOS flash and post some pictures? I will like to try this, but I don't want to risk bricking my friend's video card.
nope, you can't unlock those.. I've tried rivatuner on both the gtx bios and the vanilla one... on reboot they're still locked and 3dmark scores don't change... some other method is required... come on peeps, let's see what you've got..
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post #227 of 276
6/13/06 at 1:01am
Heat is a big time issue with this core, I’m starting to wish I ordered the 7900gs instead which dropped in price when they stopped offering the 7800 2 days after I ordered my laptop. I have tried 1.11 to 1.3 no matter what after 15 minutes of using ati tool to check for artifacts It exceed temperature threshold. 400 MHz or more at any voltage will soon get to hot, I don’t want all the fans running all the time so I chose not to use I8Kfangui, and even when I force both fans it still eventually passes <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="93’">93’</st1:metricconverter> all it does is delays it 5 more minutes, and I have some AS5, but I don’t feel like cracking this open because I don’t believe its going to make much of a difference. Back to stock volts with a 380 core 900 memory dosent overheat at all and maintains about 84’-<st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="86’">86’</st1:metricconverter> I can’t figure out .01 volts and 20Mhz makes this thing over heat that bad?
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post #228 of 276
6/13/06 at 6:16am
Tried 1.25v at vid 5 ran 450core-925mem at 91' full load little hot for it I think, so tried 1.2v at vid 4 running 425c-925m at 88' I feel a little better at that. Thanks for the help everyone!!!

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post #229 of 276
6/13/06 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by NightRaverX
Tried 1.25v at vid 5 ran 450core-925mem at 91' full load little hot for it I think, so tried 1.2v at vid 4 running 425c-925m at 88' I feel a little better at that. Thanks for the help everyone!!!

Desktop Rig: AMD Athlon64 x2 4400+\2GB DDR-400 Platinum EL 2-3-2-5-1t\ATI Radeon X1800xt(690/1600)\Maxtor SATA 7200 120GB\Maxtor SATA 7200 160GB\Mad gog 6in1 DVD Burner\Lite-on Combo Drive\KDS Rad-9p LCD <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[IMG] /><st1:metricconverter ProductID=[/IMG]19”</st1:metricconverter>
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post #230 of 276
6/13/06 at 11:49am
Ok, I'll put it HL2 Episode I and within 5 min overheats goes from 40fps to 12 fps then back up and back down etc. etc. The laptop is sitting in a cool setting getting plenty of air, so i dont know, I give up, went back to original volts running 380c-925m staying below 85' and all works, so I guess it was a fun ride,lol.

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post #231 of 276
6/13/06 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by NightRaverX
Ok, I'll put it HL2 Episode I and within 5 min overheats goes from 40fps to 12 fps then back up and back down etc. etc. The laptop is sitting in a cool setting getting plenty of air, so i dont know, I give up, went back to original volts running 380c-925m staying below 85' and all works, so I guess it was a fun ride,lol.

Desktop Rig: AMD Athlon64 x2 4400+\2GB DDR-400 Platinum EL 2-3-2-5-1t\ATI Radeon X1800xt(690/1600)\Maxtor SATA 7200 120GB\Maxtor SATA 7200 160GB\Mad gog 6in1 DVD Burner\Lite-on Combo Drive\KDS Rad-9p LCD <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[IMG] /><st1:metricconverter ProductID=[/IMG]19”</st1:metricconverter>
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how big of a power supply do you have? to run at anything above 380-390 core you need 130W... otherwise the 90W will shut down from too much power drainage and yuo'll end up running on batteries...
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post #232 of 276
6/13/06 at 7:19pm
I found a PA-13 130 watt Dell power adapter to buy, now if I buy this new brick & plug, is it as easy as just pluging it in to my laptop? I wont need a bios update or any plug modding, right? And this will probably solve the issues i am having with speeding up my vanilla 7800? I am using the stock 95watt PS that came with my system, but i do have the 9 cell, someone please let me know, thanx!
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post #233 of 276
6/13/06 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by NightRaverX
I found a PA-13 130 watt Dell power adapter to buy, now if I buy this new brick & plug, is it as easy as just pluging it in to my laptop? I wont need a bios update or any plug modding, right? And this will probably solve the issues i am having with speeding up my vanilla 7800? I am using the stock 95watt PS that came with my system, but i do have the 9 cell, someone please let me know, thanx!
it's as easy as plug&go... literally.. beware of the monster brick though, it's twice as heavy as the 90W... but twice as nice to have too... (although IT IS ugly to look at..)
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post #234 of 276
6/14/06 at 4:07am
Well ordered a 130watt for $40 shipped, Guess I'll wait untill it comes in and try again, I would like to see if I could get 450/1000 with the new PS, now i can see why if I raised the memory above 950MHz it would slowly stutter to a holt and the screen turn black, bot enough juice, now if i can figure out a way to keep heat down! I'm in debate if i should mabe pick up a Geforce go 7800 GTX and just put it in myself? I dont see the vanalla staying cool enough with the single pipe and set up.
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post #235 of 276
6/14/06 at 9:12am
When u flash the gtx bios on there it should look like nvflash.exe -4 -5 -6 7800gtx.bin. I didn't try changing the thermal threshold on the 7800go bios. I just used the 7800gtx bios w/ the 115 degree threshold. It seems ok. Just a bit hot. My chipset and harddrive show normal temps though, so hopefully all that heat is just on the video card.
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post #236 of 276
6/14/06 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by SargentNg
When u flash the gtx bios on there it should look like nvflash.exe -4 -5 -6 7800gtx.bin. I didn't try changing the thermal threshold on the 7800go bios. I just used the 7800gtx bios w/ the 115 degree threshold. It seems ok. Just a bit hot. My chipset and harddrive show normal temps though, so hopefully all that heat is just on the video card.
I think I tried once to set it to 93 with nibitor but I wasn't able to make it stay in the gtx bios after flashing it... it was still reporting 115 in the control panel.. let me know if you're able to set it correctly..
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post #237 of 276
6/14/06 at 1:07pm
I tried using the GTX bios and it would accept because of product id missmatch, how do you change it? And when I tried changeing the threshold on the vanilla bios after flash still reported 93' Let me ask something, because of these heat issues im thinking of just buying a GTX and throwing that in, I dont need to do the xps bios flash on e1705/9400 like the 9300 do I, I can simply just pop the new card in right? or i do need to use the FDBOOTCDXPS.iso to flash to make my lappy think it's an XPS?
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post #238 of 276
6/14/06 at 1:21pm
see post above for the switches you need to use (-4 -5 -6).. As far as the gtx goes, sure, just pop it in and you're ready to go.. except you'll have to cut a piece of plastic near the top left of the note, where the heat sinks are.. but maybe a 7900gs (or even gtx if you can afford it) is a better choice... they sure heat up a lot less...
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post #239 of 276
6/14/06 at 3:56pm
I downloaded the GTX Bios from the same files on the link from page 1 that peter-pan had wrote, www.mvktech.net is the site and it's the Dell Go7800GTX PCIe 256MB - Rev 01 it's the only one i can find from DELL so i asume thats the right one to use, right? then simply im going to exactly type: C:\nvflash.exe \-4 -5 -6 7800GTX.bin (the exact name of the bios file which im using) so the format of the command im writing will look like that, i still dont under stand what typing -4 -5 -6 does? are you guys running 485/495core-1250memory 24/7? with this bios flash? what are you temps full idle temps at those speeds? One last question why use the GTX bios to flash instead of just modding the vid4-1.2v on the regular 7800 bios, i know it doesent unlock the pipes but does it enable to get your memory speeds higher than 950? I am thankfull for all you guy's help, let me know thanx!
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post #240 of 276
6/14/06 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by NightRaverX
I downloaded the GTX Bios from the same files on the link from page 1 that peter-pan had wrote, www.mvktech.net is the site and it's the Dell Go7800GTX PCIe 256MB - Rev 01 it's the only one i can find from DELL so i asume thats the right one to use, right? then simply im going to exactly type: C:\nvflash.exe \-4 -5 -6 7800GTX.bin (the exact name of the bios file which im using) so the format of the command im writing will look like that, i still dont under stand what typing -4 -5 -6 does? are you guys running 485/495core-1250memory 24/7? with this bios flash? what are you temps full idle temps at those speeds? One last question why use the GTX bios to flash instead of just modding the vid4-1.2v on the regular 7800 bios, i know it doesent unlock the pipes but does it enable to get your memory speeds higher than 950? I am thankfull for all you guy's help, let me know thanx!
well, if you type nvflash /? you'll see what the -4 -5 -6 do.. if you flash the bios you're describing, you're more than likely going to end up with the stock frequencies of the gtx, which i think are nowhere near the 485/1250 value.. to get those, you either have to get a modded gtx bios (see this thread.. http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=117648) or mod the one you have yourself.. choose vid04 for 1.2v or vid06 for 1.3v and experiment with the frequencies, or download and flash the one you desire in the thread above.. keep an eye on the temps and don't be too greedy (485/1250 is my max, so you have this as a starting point) or you'll lock up your card (nothing that can't be undone with a reflash..).. good luck and may the force be with you...
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