Originally Posted by chuck232
I definitely agree Yonah's implementation is not a prime example of a good dual core chip (a la X2), but it's far from poor performing. Even tests from Anandtech show that a 2.0Ghz Yonah is extremely competitive even with a X2 running at 2.0GHz with 1MB L2 per core.http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2648&p=6So if there is no performance increase for the Turion X2s over the desktop X2s (doesn't look like anything short of DDR2-800 will increase the X2s performance based on early benchmarks of the AM2 platform)
I doubt AMD will surpass Intel's performance lead in the mobile side of things, at least not with this initial group of chips. 2.0GHz and 512K L2 per core is essentially a mobiled X2 3800+ and that 2.0GHz Yonah is more than competitive.
Except they are not that similar to current X2s, with new memory controllers, new version of HTT, higher bandwidth, improved SIMD application, a slightly different implementation of L2 (allegedly), etc.
If you are referring to Tom's Hardware article, that has been soundly refuted, since they ran the memory at DDR400 speed, which causes the synthetic benchmarks' memory test results actually slighly worse for the AM2 chips than the S939 chips. You can read some of the comments such as in this thread, with postings from many knowledgeable people:http://episteme.arstechnica.com/grou...m/181009587731
Tom's hardware simply cannot be trusted, since over the years their bias has obviously shown through. As you can see, people may disagree over the actual performance potential of the rev F chips, but almost all agree that Tom's has simply conducted an atrocious review with faulty methods.
|That saving grace will probably be price. If they price them at their desktop chip prices (so 2.0GHz Turion X2 compared to the X2 3800+) or even a bit higher, they'll still be quite a bit below Intel's cost.
That I think will be quite right, if the current pricing schemes of Turions are any indication.
|I think Merom's still slated for the September time frame, so right before Vista probably. By the time Merom matures, AMD will have to work on getting a mature 65nm process. (looking good so far if IBM's Power6 is any indication)
While different reports will disagree, the majority of the reports actually Q4 of 06 or Jan of 07, such as here, just an example:http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2768