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post #141 of 521
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Originally Posted by MCesio
I appreciate what you're saying, but motivation to start a business is not the same motvation that keeps it successful. You need more, especially in this industry. Just looking at the notebooks alone tell us that the initial idea of originality, uniqueness etc. has already been disposed of. The great choice of colours that made a AW notebook an object of staring, has been replaced to a fancy glowing logo (which I love... just illustrating how things change).

Either way they need to make money dude, no money, no R&D, no AW. Things may have changed now... they may think AW only has 5 years left so why not sell now... I am just being hypothetical illustrating that NOTHING can be ruled out.

I sure to hell hope it doesn't happen.
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AW now makes rack systems, they built a huge computer for a university in Florida, they offer media machines, laptops of several varieties, several lines of desktops, workstations and systems like the Bot.

If you think that means they're on death's door, you're a very confused person.
post #142 of 521
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Originally Posted by viperxiv
Why do you AW ppl hate Dell ppl so much? We don't hate you! LOL

If Dell did buy AW, however they arrange the brands or whatever they do the bottom line is that your computers will become more afforable.

I'm sure Dell will keep some part of Alienware intact, because most Dell people will not spend $7,000 on a gaming computer. Dell is obviously trying to get a piece of the "I'll spend my entire life savings on a gaming computer" market, and buying a pre-made piece in AW with client base included makes sence to me!
Alienware ppl don't hate Dell ppl, we just get tired of Dell ppl that have no idea what they own coming in here and attempting to flame AW.

Dell makes affordable computers. Alienware makes high performance computers and charges what it costs.

Dell wouldn't make Alienware's more affordable without cutting quality.

Dell has been trying to get a chunk of the high performance gaming market, but so far they haven't been successful at beating Alienware at their own game.
post #143 of 521
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Originally Posted by viperxiv
My pets are a wolf hybrid and cat... dunno what dell owners you're talking about! I heard AW owners don't have any pets or GFs cuz they spend all their money and time on their computers!
There you go, flaming AW customers because they can afford more than an economy POS.
post #144 of 521
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Originally Posted by viperxiv
ok one thread I didn't read.. point well taken!

Durden I'm not a Dell Cowboy and I don't have a girble up my a$$! I buy whatever works best for me.
You're a Dell customer, so the price is probably what works best for you.

With all the computers available today, why did you choose Dell if not for the price?
post #145 of 521
yang show a pic of your gf to viperxiv then he will know that us (i kinda consider myself a aw person because i am going to buy one in the the near future) don't have gf's or wives. actually a ton of people here have gf's or wives
post #146 of 521
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
There you go, flaming AW customers because they can afford more than an economy POS.
That's after being accused of having a gerbel up my a$$, sorry but I won't let that go without a comeback, even then it was light-hearted, is like 0 joke area or what?

appologies for offending anyone
post #147 of 521
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Well, you might think everything is about money, but when you build a business into a multi-national corporation in ten years from a start in your garage with $10,000 capital, then you can tell me it's all about money.

You reallly think they started AW to make people like you happy???????????????????????? They started AW to make money. No matter what you think or what they say.....they are in it to make money...I would have bought a dell if they offered a 15.4 inch laptop with a decent gpu but they don't. I considered sager but they are plain looking and costed more than my m5500 when I placed my order. From what I been through AW customer support is no better than Dell. For my business I use all Dell's and have the same complaints about their customer service as AW. No doubt AW uses better components than Dell. Would I buy another AW? Most def but im not about to lose my load over them. They build great computers...but so does alot of other company's. You are really closed minded in thinking AW is a god. They are far from it just like every other computer manufacturer out there. They all have their faults......you just chose not to see AWs' Whats your deal bro just because you got hooked up a few times with some shit from AW doesn't mean they will do that for everybody. My boy got hooked up with a new computer from Dell but you dont see him cummin all over his keyboard because of it. Chill out you straight lose your shit any time somebody has something negative to say about AW. Are you gettin kick backs from AW or what? If your not I would def shake them down for something cause you are "die hard" for real.
post #148 of 521
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Originally Posted by StuckUp
You reallly think they started AW to make people like you happy????????????????????????
Yes. They called me up in 1996 and asked me what would make me happy. I told them, and the rest is history.

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They started AW to make money.
Duh...

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No matter what you think or what they say.....they are in it to make money...
And where exactly is it I said they weren't in it to make money? I've started a couple businesses in my life. I started them to make money, and I'm still running them to make money. Doesn't mean I'd jump at the chance to sell to Dell.

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I would have bought a dell if they offered a 15.4 inch laptop with a decent gpu but they don't.
Wait, are you saying Dell isn't in this to make money? Why wouldn't they sell you the computer you wanted?

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I considered sager but they are plain looking and costed more than my m5500 when I placed my order.
So you bought an Alienware for it's case?

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From what I been through AW customer support is no better than Dell.
Have you ever owned a Dell and used their home support?

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For my business I use all Dell's and have the same complaints about their customer service as AW.
You're comparing Dell corporate support to Alienware's home support? You're not the brightest light bulb in the box, are you?

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No doubt AW uses better components than Dell.
Why would they do that if it wasn't to make mo' money?

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Would I buy another AW? Most def but im not about to lose my load over them.
I know where my load is, it's not lost, and it's not over Alienware.

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They build great computers...
Man, when are you going to stop kissing AW's butt? You're such a fanboy.

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but so does alot of other company's.
So 'do' a lot of other company's. If that's your line of thought, why buy Alienware. They're just all about the money.

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You are really closed minded in thinking AW is a god.
I don't think AW is god. I know a lot about the company, so I correct people when they're wrong and try to help out customers with issues or potential customers with their questions.

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They are far from it just like every other computer manufacturer out there.
Seeing as god is a quaint concept invented to control people, I'd say you're right. Computer companies make computers, god is a concept based on fear of the unknown.

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They all have their faults......you just chose not to see AWs'
I see Alienware's faults, mainly they attract momo's like you that post BS on forums.

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Whats your deal bro just because you got hooked up a few times with some shit from AW doesn't mean they will do that for everybody.
What you talkin bout Willis? When did I get hooked up with some shit from AW or anywhere else? I was a customer when they were very small, and I'm still a customer. A paying customer. Remember, your whole argument here is that they're in it for the money... How do you reconcile that with your new allegation that I'm getting special deals?

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My boy got hooked up with a new computer from Dell but you dont see him cummin all over his keyboard because of it.
Did I leave my webcam on again?

Did it ever dawn on you that your son isn't excited because he got a Dell?

And what kind of dad talks about his son that way?

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Chill out you straight lose your shit any time somebody has something negative to say about AW.
No I don't. Alienware has some problems, their communications are less than spectacular. OMG, I can't believe I said that, now I've got to straight lose my shit...!

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Are you gettin kick backs from AW or what?
Are you asking if I'm in it for the money?

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If your not I would def shake them down for something cause you are "die hard" for real.
I see what's going on, it's called projection.

Because you're a stuck up loser, all you're concerned about is money. I bet you sell out all the time. You think everyone else is just like you because if they're not sell outs, that means you're a low life. I suppose that's why you feel the need to use graphic language about your son's masturbation habits as you're probably an after hours keyboard polisher yourself.

Sorry it pisses you off that Alienware has been a remarkable American success story, and you feel the need to straight lose your shit because I've been a longtime customer that's watched and enjoyed their rise through the industry as well as the systems I've purchased from them.

Stuckup is a good name for you.
post #149 of 521
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Originally Posted by viperxiv
That's after being accused of having a gerbel up my a$$, sorry but I won't let that go without a comeback, even then it was light-hearted, is like 0 joke area or what?

appologies for offending anyone
Not offended, just noting you were doing what you were complaining about.
post #150 of 521
LMAO...excellent Hammer.....these people, most of them, have no idea what AW is all about...why the company was formed, what its philosophy was relating to the computer industry, but more importantly toward its customer base and to the people who started the company and to whom they employ...it is so obvious, and the success of AW and its approach toward its customers and its employees is something that has been written about in numerous minority business publications....it does not take a genius to look at the names of the AW management team, its so obvious...and it has worked so well.....
post #151 of 521
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
You're a Dell customer, so the price is probably what works best for you.

With all the computers available today, why did you choose Dell if not for the price?
I would have prefered to get a Sony but they have sucky GPUs. Sager and companies like that have poor service and build quality apparently, and I don't find HPs, Compaqs, Acer etc. to be any good either, not to mention they don't offer that great of performance.

Dell was kind of my only choice, which is fine my XPS m170 kicks a$$ and all the Dells I've ever had have been rock solid. I got a $650 coupon plus around $300 in free upgrades, so the price was right.
post #152 of 521
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Originally Posted by viperxiv
I would have prefered to get a Sony but they have sucky GPUs. Sager and companies like that have poor service and build quality apparently, and I don't find HPs, Compaqs, Acer etc. to be any good either, not to mention they don't offer that great of performance.

Dell was kind of my only choice, which is fine my XPS m170 kicks a$$ and all the Dells I've ever had have been rock solid. I got a $650 coupon plus around $300 in free upgrades, so the price was right.
since when does Sony have sucky GPUS?? dunno what Sony your looking at..Sager is same build as AW, again no idea what your talking about...like Hammer said you got the Dell because of the price...
post #153 of 521
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Originally Posted by fizzle
since when does Sony have sucky GPUS?? dunno what Sony your looking at..
The best GPU Sony offers in a notebook is the Nvidia 7400 G0 or the Ati X700. (at the time of my XPS purchase last month.) You need at minimum a 6800 Ultra to stay in the game these days.
post #154 of 521
did I miss something here? I just don't see what the big deal is, Alienware and Dell are both after different markets. and lets leave people to their own opinions. if Viper likes Dell, fine, if HH likes Alienware, fine. it doesn't matter, theyre just computers, theres more to life than computers. mods, please lock this thread because its about to get really nasty. people here have way too strong of opinions. everybody here, please keep an open mind about things and if someone says they like something, accept it and let it be, don't try to one-up or belittle them because you think something is better and what they think. throughout history wars have been fought, and people have died because someone thought that what they believed was right and what others thought was wrong. don't do it again here. these forums were made so that people can come and talk computers, not bash people over the head because of what computer they would prefer. please lets not make these forums a war zone.take Yangs advice and play nice.
post #155 of 521
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Originally Posted by Choco_latte
did I miss something here? I just don't see what the big deal is, Alienware and Dell are both after different markets.

Yes. Alienware markets to people who want raw performance. They've used their marketing savvy give the impression that they care so much about performance and passion for gaming or WHATEVER. They then use this image to get their to customers feel like they're part of some special group who sit better than the "Evil Dell."

Dell markets to ppl who do not want to spend a lot on computers but still want decent performance and reliablility. If Dell wanted to market to you guys (AW customers), then we would see Dell systems that compete with AW specs. But we don't. So it's a moot point.
post #156 of 521
thread has been "mod-ed" please keep things civil or the thread will be locked..."thank you, come again!"
post #157 of 521

wrong impression

viper, I think you have a bad impression of Alienware. while I agree that they both have different but similar marketing tactics, it has been proven time and time again, that Alienware's computers are what they say they are. you can see this in the technology they put inside the computers. I can also agree that Alienware has some pretty steep prices, but thats just because of what they put into it. listen, I know where you're coming from, but the reason people keep coming back to Alienware is because they give what they advertise, to me you're suggesting that Alienware is all talk and know show, to me you're saying that Alienware makes false advertisements. that in fact, is not true. they exactly what you ask for when they build the computer for you. I can also see that you quoted me, if you read far enough into my post I said to have an open mind, you are obviously shutting yourself away, and rejecting anything that is not Dell. likewise, some people who are on the Alienware side of the board, are doing the same thing. Alienware does exactly what it says it does, they are however blowing the ads up a little too much. it's not like Dell doesn't do that either though. in fact ALL companies who advertise/sell to the general public does this. I think your problem is that you think that everyone who doesn't think like you is wrong. here you say (and I quote): " They then use this image to get their to customers feel like they're part of some special group..." how do you think they got the "image" without actually doing what they say they are doing? Alienware's market IS people who want raw performance, and thats absolutely fine. Alienware also advertises that they have the best computers (don't all computer companies do this?), but what makes people keep coming back is the fact that they always try to sell what is the best and outperforms other things. Dell uses similar strategies, except the difference is the people that the product it is being marketed to. so I ask you to please keep your mind open to new things, I totally respect Dell and other companies but don't you think that you're not giving the same services to us? I also apologize about my rantings, I hope you are the type of person that can take criticism.
post #158 of 521
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Originally Posted by viperxiv
Yes. Alienware markets to people who want raw performance. They've used their marketing savvy give the impression that they care so much about performance and passion for gaming or WHATEVER. They then use this image to get their to customers feel like they're part of some special group who sit better than the "Evil Dell."

Dell markets to ppl who do not want to spend a lot on computers but still want decent performance and reliablility. If Dell wanted to market to you guys (AW customers), then we would see Dell systems that compete with AW specs. But we don't. So it's a moot point.

um there are systems called XPS that "try" and compete with AW.
post #159 of 521
don't push it fizzle, i'm warning you. thats one can of worms that we don't need to reopen.
post #160 of 521
I bought a Jeep over a WRX. Who wants to argue about that?
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