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post #41 of 521
That's great awsome I hope Dell buy the alienware so we all get good costomer services
post #42 of 521
IT
post #43 of 521
That's it I'm taking my 51% worth of Microsoft stock somewhere else.
post #44 of 521
FNW or Hyper...here I come, but I agree with hammer...no way Dell buys AW and then turns AW into cheap end rigs that dell is so known for...isn't that why we buy AW...we want quality, good support and not alot of extra spyware crap on our machines....Dell should buy VooDoo and then support it from India...I am not going to worry about it, as it is not going to happen as far as I am concerned
post #45 of 521
You wanna do business with me Durden??

post #46 of 521
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by moidock
You wanna do business with me Durden??

You got the stocks and I got the skill....lets get together and rule the world...hahaha.....err I mean, pay the bills??
post #47 of 521
This is a fact (my opinion). DELL WON'T BUY OUT ALIENWARE. simply for the fact that they both play on different levels of the field. Alienware is soooo successful and is very self-sufficient, it is attracting just the kind of business that it wants and doesn't need Dell. likewise, Dell is attracting it's intended customers. they don't need each other. and if Dell was on the verge of bankrupcy and needed to merge to stay alive, it would go with something more it's level like Compaq or HP. Dell and Alienware don't even compete. it just doesn't work. it would be like a Subaru or Volvo buying out Lexus or BMW. also the Inquirer, your source for the information, has a reputation for containing false information. in this case it has no proof to back it up, making the claim completely untrue. come back when you have proof with quotations directly from either of the companies; or any other piece of evidence, then you have yourself a case. the conclusion: Dell is not going to buy out Alienware.
post #48 of 521
Dell buying Alienware would really not be a bad thing. Dell has a lot more buying power than Alienware and this could potentially lead to lower prices. Dell is also far more organzied and efficent and this could help Alienware in building computers faster and on time. Dell would also likely make improvements to Alienware's lackluster customer service and technical assistance departments.
post #49 of 521
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Originally Posted by Choco_latte
This is a fact (my opinion). DELL WON'T BUY OUT ALIENWARE. simply for the fact that they both play on different levels of the field. Alienware is soooo successful and is very self-sufficient, it is attracting just the kind of business that it wants and doesn't need Dell. likewise, Dell is attracting it's intended customers. they don't need each other. and if Dell was on the verge of bankrupcy and needed to merge to stay alive, it would go with something more it's level like Compaq or HP. Dell and Alienware don't even compete. it just doesn't work. it would be like a Subaru or Volvo buying out Lexus or BMW. also the Inquirer, your source for the information, has a reputation for containing false information. in this case it has no proof to back it up, making the claim completely untrue. come back when you have proof with quotations directly from either of the companies; or any other piece of evidence, then you have yourself a case. the conclusion: Dell is not going to buy out Alienware.

Ford bought Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover and a variety of other companies which their main line did not compete with.
post #50 of 521
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Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy
Ford bought Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover and a variety of other companies which their main line did not compete with.
were those companies successful and self-sufficient with business before Ford? or were those companies going downhill and needed Ford to prop them up? sure Ford didn't compete with Jaguar, but then why would Jaguar sell out to Ford unless it was going bankrupt? a successful high-end company just doesn't sell out to a cheap generic company for no reason. it doesn't work.
post #51 of 521
Who cares really?

Until I wake up and grab my Financial Times to see Dell has just bought Alienware, I'm not getting excited about a rumour started by vague website personalities and innuendo and made into prophecy by Rahul Sood.

[WARNING: THE NEXT BIT IS A J-O-K-E, for those people with no sense of humour] Really...who cares? Apart from the Dell aficionados wetting their pants to be able to see and work with their BIOS.
post #52 of 521
my intention in this entire ordeal, is to prove that Dell won't buy out Alienware, and to put this rumor to rest.
post #53 of 521
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Originally Posted by Choco_latte
were those companies successful and self-sufficient with business before Ford? or were those companies going downhill and needed Ford to prop them up? sure Ford didn't compete with Jaguar, but then why would Jaguar sell out to Ford unless it was going bankrupt? a successful high-end company just doesn't sell out to a cheap generic company for no reason. it doesn't work.

Well, for the right price, they would be crazy not to. Don't forget how big Dell is. They are in a position to offer a lot of money; much more than Alienware could ever be worth.
post #54 of 521
that's quite a bold statement, do you honestly think that Dell's money and products could be worth more than Alienware and Alienware's products? it's no just about the money, it's about the products. but yes, your right in a sticky situation, money talks
post #55 of 521
Thread Starter 
I never thought that this is where this thread would go....but I'm fairly new to these forums and I guess I'm learning how strongly people feel about their perspective brands. I'd like to give you Dell owners this:

I really don't think any of us (who can think objectivly anyway), deep down think of Dell as a bad computer. They couldn't ever continue to reach the mass amount that they sell to if they sold garbage. I had a Dell for a long time and it was the most reliable computer (before my Alien) that I'd ever had. Where Dell shines is in it's mass market. That's kids going off to school who need something to get the work done, and Dell get's the work done. Also, the server side of things is domanated mainly by Dell. It's a solution that's low in price and that speaks to corporate america. Again, it's their ability to mass produce an inexpencive solution to these two demographics that keep Dell going strong. If they really did make crap computers as some here suggest, they wouldn't be able to keep the sales. People are too smart to invest x amount of money into something that is crap, and if they did it once, they wouldn't come back to them again the next time around!!! The thing is, Dell makes a fine computer for computing.

People who buy and or make their own computers fall into two catagorys:

1. Someone who uses a computer for the ease and funtion that a computer offers for everyday living. (e-mail, word processing, communication and web access). This group looks for the inexpencive solution, as it's not so much about speed as it is the general ability that gets them where they want to go.

2. The other group views a computer as something all together different. To us, it's about never being trully satisfied. Much like the men who said, "We will make it to the moon someday," we push and we plot and we tinker. We see the box as more of an art. The art of discovery. What is it capable of and how can I make it better. How will I take this machine to the moon? It's a hard thing to explain but, the difference from group 1 to group 2 is bi-polar.

Dell having realized this, has tried to get into this group with the XPS line and I think doing things like wraping up exclusives like Quad-gaming puts them on a good path.
Dells biggest weakness is the fact that they still don't fully understand what group two is all about. Their best effort in the XPS line and all below it don't seem to suggest to me that Dell has gotten the group 2 ideal yet. Sure XPS is going to be a fast rig but it's not so fast that it makes up for all it's short comings. It is very un-friendly when it comes to the case and the space inside. They shroud everything up with green shields and this is an eyesore to group two. It's as if the way they built it was so as to keep you Dell dependant, and that's exactly what's going on here. They arn't as concerned about what you can make with it as they are with what they'll make off it. AND, here in lies the Dell downfall in the gaming market. It still remains to be all about the money. The biggest slide to success here is not getting the real ability within the confines of the design to customize, and that speaks volumes. Customization is the ability to let one's personality transend through their work. Going back to group two, this statment is a unsaid philosophy. We are in effect, after all the work is done, a reflection of our own creation.

Also, and some others have made this point already, they take "short cuts" in the hardware they use. A short cut, by definition, is something that will save you time and thus making it more efficient. Using cheap RAM or power supplys is not a short cut in the positive way and it's not efficient either. The word "short cut" in regards to parts/hardware for group two is not a part of the picture.

Alienware knows this.........and Dell does not...or isn't concerned. One way or another, the difference is absolutly night and day.

And then there's this too:"[WARNING: THE NEXT BIT IS A J-O-K-E, for those people with no sense of humour] Really...who cares? Apart from the Dell aficionados wetting their pants to be able to see and work with their BIOS.

p.s. They'll never sell because they have no reason to.
LL
post #56 of 521
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Originally Posted by cell_fhone
That's great awsome I hope Dell buy the alienware so we all get good costomer services
Alienware's customer service is great for me. They send out parts when they dont work and they have great online support.
post #57 of 521
exactly my thoughts. I really have no preference as I don't own a computer yet. it's just a matter of opinion
post #58 of 521
This attempt by Rahul is going to backfire on him. He is very outspoken. Just check out the VooDoo PC kick ass thread from a bit ago. The one with that fat dude who got ripped off buy them. Craig knows what I am talking about. The thread name escapes me.
At any rate, If Dell were actually going to do this, Which they won't, they would have done it long before the release of their new performance Rigs. Long before they introduced the XPS2.
post #59 of 521
I personally think the buy out or merger of the two companies could benefit Alienware, if done properly. Alienware would greatly benefit for Dell's capital, meaning more innovation and overall competition crushing computers. As I see it, if Dell was to treat Alienware how China treated/treats Hong Kong, this would do wonders to Alienware. I honestly think, that Alienware could (don't hate me) also benefit from the more organized Technical (& customer service) support that Dell has. Alienware has the technical experience/expertise unlike Dell, but lacks organization, and that is where you see most EVERY complaint about Alienware. As long as Dell was to just finance and collect money from Alienware, and integrate a new more structured technical support (& customer service) system (not experience requirements, just a system, as in software, tricks etc) into Alienware, and basically just let the Alienware guys do what they do best. This would be a great deal, for you and me both, and wouldn't require anyone to jump ship. That is the only way I see this working, and I'm sure the Alienware guys wouldn't have it any other way.

All of that aside, I don't see this happening. Rahul on his blog gave Alienware some heavy hits, and this seems more like a bashing of Alienware than anything. Rahul acts like a child, and his published works and personal opinions only strengthen that. His various articles in CPU, etc suck, and his constant attacks and claims only taint his already dull reputation among the comptuer industry. If Rahul would spend as much time taking care of his own business instead of rubbing his nose in others, and bashing what he can't beat, he might have a company that could actually compete with Alienware.
post #60 of 521
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Originally Posted by durden500
They'll never sell because they have no reason to.
Adobe bought out Macromedia for something like 3.4billion, Macromedia was doing fine by itself.

You only need money as a reason.
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