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post #441 of 521
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Originally Posted by mb67
Just look at how much garbage was generated here: all because of some silly blog at Voodoo. They certainly did a good job of generating PR for themselves...
I think it's given AW some PR too.

I love AW's release stating that this interest validates that AW is a player...
post #442 of 521
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I'm hoping that's why AW isn't commenting...

I am sure it is....and Rahul thought this would drive some business his way...stupid idea
post #443 of 521
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I know several people that own Corvettes that would punch you in the nose for that comment.

Again, they do not offer similar performance.

That is just the stupidity we get here...one of the most idiotic comparisons I have ever seen...Corvette and Viper...OMG
post #444 of 521
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
He could laugh at the battery life and the cost...
Yeah, I guess that extra ten minutes you get on battery with the XPS more than makes up for the performance difference of having a competent processor capable of multi tasking...

As for price, you get what you pay for. My last Alienware was less expensive than the comparable, or "as close as you can get" XPS.

Sorry, you lose...
post #445 of 521


YOU HAVE BEEN D@@KED!
post #446 of 521
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Originally Posted by nassaumike
Like I said, if you want to comment about this, please feel free to do so.... by starting a thread in your forum, we will respect your right to do so, and we will gladly not post in it
So I guess the fact that I had an Alienware Aurora XP 2500+ doesn't count? I don't understand why I can't post in both.
post #447 of 521
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Originally Posted by thecommish16
I'm stayin outta this one.
Good decision.
post #448 of 521
ooo ooo pick me, pick me! here's my favorite: "I build my desktops and I don't need a "look-at-me" laptop. It's not jealousy, it's spending wisely. I got my XPS 2 for $1700 with many extras and 4-year VIP service."

this guy claims he doesn't want a flashy laptop, but lo and behold, he goes and buys an XPS Gen 2 with a reflective wavy aluminum back casing, bright LED lights that spell "XPS", and bright LED lights inside every fan vent. let it also be known that all the LED lights can change into 16 count em' 16 different colors! wow, based on the fact that he said: I don't need a "look-at-me" laptop, he really made a good choice. <after inserting two cents, backs away carefully>
post #449 of 521
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
If AW buyers were as intelligent as they try to come off, they would know the only difference between an X2 4400 and an X2 4800 is the 4800 is clocked 200MHz higher from the factory. Is that worth $200+ more? You can make up for that 200MHz with a simple overclock. Won't need to increase the voltage or anything. Just a little food for thought.
Where is it that any Alienware customer said anything about these processors, it's Smooth that said he'd prefer an AMD X2 4800+, not an AW customer. Smooth is not an AW customer.

Learn to read.


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Yeah I guess that's it. I really don't have the need for a dual core laptop at this time. I'm in school and pay my way. Even if I could afford an AW it wouldn't matter. I build my desktops and I don't need a "look-at-me" laptop. It's not jealousy, it's spending wisely. I got my XPS 2 for $1700 with many extras and 4-year VIP service. Doesn't break the bank and it's got awesome performance for the price.
I never owned an AW laptop until I had to sit through weekly four to six hour chemotherapy sessions after my cancer surgery. I can tell you I would have had trouble carrying and setting up my desktop in the infusion lab every week, so the AW "look at me" laptop was a lifesaver and not only helped me keep my mind off my treatments, it gave all the other cancer patients something to do watching me play San Andreas during therapy.

If you build your own, why are you here spewing nonsense in this string?
post #450 of 521
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Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi
So I guess the fact that I had an Alienware Aurora XP 2500+ doesn't count?

Since you asked, yes...I had two Dells...so what....we both have forums for us to post in, I suggest we stay in them..simple as that...no hard feelings, and if this whatever you choose to call it goes through, then we will have a good reason to combine and continue this mindless exercise, but until then...i will stay here and you can post all your AW feelings in your Dell forum...no big deal, no feelings hurt, and no blood shed and no more reason for Dell people to neg rep the AW guys...and you can turn your rep back on, it is safe from AW neg hits, I assure you of that
post #451 of 521
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Originally Posted by StuckUp
Hammerhead do you have a life outside of this forum?
Sorry, I wasn't able to respond to this garbage earlier because I was working.

Do you have anything better to do with your time than collect negative reps?
post #452 of 521
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I never owned an AW laptop until I had to sit through weekly four to six hour chemotherapy sessions after my cancer surgery. I can tell you I would have had trouble carrying and setting up my desktop in the infusion lab every week, so the AW "look at me" laptop was a lifesaver and not only helped me keep my mind off my treatments, it gave all the other cancer patients something to do watching me play San Andreas during therapy.

If you build your own, why are you here spewing nonsense in this string?
Sorry to hear you had cancer. My mom had cancer. Hope you're doing better now.

Why'd you buy an AW laptop? Most laptops could play San Andreas with ease.

I build my own desktops. Building a custom laptop would be nearly impossible.
post #453 of 521
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Originally Posted by thecommish16
They are both pretty sweet computers, but do you really think the hardware inside can tell if its in an alien or a dell and then decide to run multithreaded tasks at half speed?
I thought you were going to stay out of this one.

That would have been a good decision as this is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.
post #454 of 521
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Originally Posted by nassaumike
Since you asked, yes...I had two Dells...so what....we both have forums for us to post in, I suggest we stay in them..simple as that...no hard feelings, and if this whatever you choose to call it goes through, then we will have a good reason to combine and continue this mindless exercise, but until then...i will stay here and you can post all your AW feelings in your Dell forum...no big deal, no feelings hurt, and no blood shed and no more reason for Dell people to neg rep the AW guys...and you can turn your rep back on, it is safe from AW neg hits, I assure you of that
Actually, from my speculation of this forum (and others), the reputation point system causes more problems than help. I honestly believe they should be turned off. It really doesn't bother me if I get a reputation point or not. I believe the whole reputation point issue is one of the causes to the Dell vs. AW in these forums. Very sad. And the fact that there's a thread in each forum just to "spam" for reputation points is defeating the purpose of the system. So yes, I do feel that they're worthless and a member should look at a replier's post quality instead of the amount of reputation points or the number of posts a member has.
post #455 of 521
Ahh thats my boy Hammerhead, stick it to these non-believers!!
post #456 of 521
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Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi
Actually, from my speculation of this forum (and others), the rep points cause more problems than help. I honestly believe they should be turned off. It really doesn't bother me if I get a rep point or not. I believe the whole rep point is one of the causes to the Dell vs. AW in these forums. Very sad. And the fact that there's a thread in each forum just to "spam" for rep points is defeating the purpose of the system. So yes, I do feel that they're worthless and a member should look at a replier's post quality instead of the amount of rep points or posts a member has.

Good point, except...the negative reps began from the dell forum long ago, its a game that was stopped by the mods and I know the AW guys honor that but already some posters in this forum have been hit with neg reps, and they did not come from fellow AW owners...your choice to turn it off as it is your rep...it really doesn't matter anyway as this is just an exercise in ridiculous stupidity...it does nothing buy create more bad feelings and I find it very funny, that we here at the AW forum, never have a troll from any other PC builder...except Dell...I wonder why that is?...I also know that the AW guys do not troll the dell froums...there just are no posts there doing that...thus my statement...you stay in your area, and I will stay in mine...the outcome of all of this will have no input from us anyway so why even go thru this stupidity?...on that note, i have work to do...enjoy the free for all
post #457 of 521
this thread is gonna get interesting ...

http://hardware.silicon.com/desktops...9157223,00.htm

yea mike i know you posted it but another one is ok.
post #458 of 521
Finally hit me, the alienware guys and dell guys are getting scared of coming together....Imagine the war that would happen if we came together. It would be the end of the forums as we know it. Just the mention of dell buying alienware has both sides pissing in there pants.
post #459 of 521
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
That is true. A dual-core machine should be compared to another dual-core machine. How about the Inspirons equipped with Intel's Core Duo? The T2600 trounces the FX-60, of course Yonah is new. M2 may fix that performance gap.

I don't care for Intel at all. My desktop will always have an AMD, but the P-M is an amazing mobile chip.

Alienware has awesome computers. I feel they are overpriced. I've seen comparisons between building your own PC and buying an AW. The parts, with shipping included, come out to almost $800 less than an AW. I don't know of a PC shop in the country that will charge you $800 to throw some parts in a case.

Alienware's laptops are really nice and I would take one or buy one if the price was good, but IMO spending $5k+ on a laptop is ridiculous.
Alienware is slow to market sometimes regarding new hardware for a couple reasons.

First, they have their own internal certification process. They used to believe manufacturers claims when they were smaller, and it bit them in the butt when one of their suppliers sent them product that didn't meet the expectations and specs. Alienware will not release any hardware until it passes their internal certification process, so when some smaller companies are starting to offer some new hardware, Alienware is still making sure the hardware is sound and lives up to it's hype.

This is because Alienware sells a lot of units, so it's in their best interest to make sure the hardware does what it says it does before they ship it out. Returns and depot visits are expensive for Alienware both in terms of cost and reputation.

Secondly, Alienware does not manufacture the base platform they use for their laptop lines. They buy base platforms from many manufacturers, but until these manufacturers offer motherboards that adequately support core duo processors, Alienware won't be offering them.

It's fine that you feel Dell is superior for offering new hardware quicker, but in the few cases this has occurred in the past, once Alienware releases the same hardware, the performance generally handily beats Dell's version due to the higher quality of peripheral hardware and motherboards.

You want an AMD processor, you're not getting a Dell, dude...

And I'm a cheap bastard at heart, despite my owning several Alienware computers. Four of my five AW computers cost less than $2100. Every time I've purchased an Alienware, I've comparison shopped at companies I trust, and Dell too. I also price out parts through Pricewatch for a self build, but I don't ignore things like fans and operating systems when I'm pricing parts.

I have yet to see a difference in the $800 price range between the parts and a complete AW, but I don't tend to buy systems like the ALX or a topped out 7500. In my opinion, the few hundred more than you'd pay for parts is worth it not having to deal with research, ordering, shipping costs and keeping track of what came from where, worrying about whether I'll get what I ordered and if it will work well with the other components I ordered, returns or exchanges, build time, software integration and updating, and troubleshooting.

I also get one place to go for help should I have an issue, and they've always taken care of me swiftly and professionally with the few issues I've had.

Alienware also has a great upgrade plan. I did a motherboard up upgrade on one of my systems, and the prices Alienware gave me for the package of parts needed was essentially the same as parts I priced at Pricewatch.com.

In addition, Alienware told me should I have any issues installing anything or having trouble to call their support for assistance. And they called me a week after I received the package to check to be sure everything was okay.

The upgrade also didn't affect my warranty, in fact because I bought everything from Alienware, everything was still warranted for my warranty term.
post #460 of 521
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Originally Posted by Woody06
Finally hit me, the alienware guys and dell guys are getting scared of coming together....Imagine the war that would happen if we came together. It would be the end of the forums as we know it. Just the mention of dell buying alienware has both sides pissing in there pants.
Hmmm, mine seem nice and dry, but thanks for trying to look out for my best interests. If it happens, it happens. And until it actually occurs, no need to lend another thought to it.
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