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Running Vista on the Sentia 223

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I am successfully running Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (February CTP) on my Sentia 223, and with the Aero glass turned on!!!

It runs nicely and fairly quickly; only a touch slower than XP in some areas and faster in most others. I did this as a "extreme" test, and boy is my little alien a champ.

This also should completely debunk all the nonsense about Vista needing extreme hardware to run, as my Sentia is using Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (and its whopping 64MB of shared video ram).
post #2 of 101
Pictures Pictures!!!
also where did you get it bron bittorrent? if so do you have a link to the torrent
post #3 of 101
pleas, put up some pictures!!! did you get it off bittorrent or someone at MS?
post #4 of 101
If you use bit torrent u should know how to find shizzle...simply dl a bit torrent client, and go to some of these sites:

www.isohunt.com
www.torrentspy.com
www.torrentz.com
www.thepiratebay.com
www.mininova.org
www.torrentreactor.com
www.mybittorrent.com

Etc, etc, etc. Just google torrent websites. But don't download illegal softwear or pirated stuff on them, only download music, movies, games, etc that u already own copys of, other wise its illegal

Laters,
Jesse
post #5 of 101
I, on the other hand, would appreciate learning a bit more about Vista itself, what's great about it, what just plain ol' stinks, etc. If you'd be so kind.
post #6 of 101
i tried installing vista on my sentia....i had build 5219 i think. Half way thru install it just stopped. Owell
post #7 of 101
i installed the November CTP and wasnt too impressed it looked like a windows xp mega theme. So im just getting the Febuary CTP now and installing it.
post #8 of 101
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I'll get some pics up in a bit; I was out the past couple of days. I am a MSDN member, and this the February CTP.

As to Vista and how it's different, there's a good bit of difference:

1) File management works differently, using metadata tags on files to enable a far more pervasive type of file search than previously possible (kind of like Spotlight on OS X). In essence, you can keep everything you use in one big folder, and save searches that can be run with a click to pull files up.

2) Different base security model that is more granular and addresses the long standing problem of the "root" user. Now when you want to do something requiring full rights, you authorize it on the spot with a dialog box that will not accept programmatic entries. That alone will pull the rug out from under most worms and viruses.

3) IE7 is a complete rebuild, with full RSS support, tabbed browsing and also runs in a security lockbox area, similar to sandboxes used by antivirus software. Once again this removes a lot of the ability of viruses and worms to take over your machine or run malicious code on it.

4) The calendar tool is now full functional

5) Sleep mode works a LOT better than ever before

There is a lot more, but suffice it to say this is a pretty significant release.
post #9 of 101
may i ask how you got vista?
post #10 of 101
Thread Starter 
I am one of the testers, through MSDN. It is an MSDN subscribers download.
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Personally Vista doesn't impress me. I think it looks too much like Mac OS which I dislike as an OS not because it's bad I just think the mystery meat navigation is lame and as a programmer and designer is a big no no.

Just my opinion.
post #12 of 101
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. My Vista install does not look like the Mac OS at all. I also have no idea what "mystery meat" navigation is supposed to mean.
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Glass looking buttons with no labels, animations,

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Originally Posted by GrAfiX
Personally Vista doesn't impress me. I think it looks too much like Mac OS which I dislike as an OS not because it's bad I just think the mystery meat navigation is lame and as a programmer and designer is a big no no.

Just my opinion.
Even Paul Thurrott who has one of the largest Windows based review site agree's. The Calender, sidebar, photogallery are almost exact copies of Mac OS and the transparent glass type windows strait out of Mac OS.

Link and quote
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_5308.asp

"A final general observation: I have certain misgivings about Vista resembling Mac OS X. With its translucent windows, such comparisons are going to be hard to avoid. But Vista's similarity with OS X goes well beyond window dressing. Certain applications, such as Calendar, Sidebar, and Photo Gallery, appear to be directly, ahem, influenced by similar applications in OS X. Microsoft has a response to that claim, which I'll reveal in part 2 of this review, but suffice to say they're going to get eaten alive for these similarities."


As far as mystery meat navigation. It's a navigation style of having buttons with no labels of what you are clicking on. Like IE7 in vista no menus no labels. http://www.winsupersite.com/images/s...a_5308_304.jpg

Just my observation, I'm not a big fan of Vista and I've got an MSDN subscription and normally am on top of anything that is new however Vista doesn't excite me at all.
post #14 of 101
Joelist is there any way u can send me vista?
post #15 of 101
Thread Starter 
Not legally. I have it because I am a MSDN Professional member.
post #16 of 101
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrAfiX
Even Paul Thurrott who has one of the largest Windows based review site agree's. The Calender, sidebar, photogallery are almost exact copies of Mac OS and the transparent glass type windows strait out of Mac OS.

Link and quote
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_5308.asp

"A final general observation: I have certain misgivings about Vista resembling Mac OS X. With its translucent windows, such comparisons are going to be hard to avoid. But Vista's similarity with OS X goes well beyond window dressing. Certain applications, such as Calendar, Sidebar, and Photo Gallery, appear to be directly, ahem, influenced by similar applications in OS X. Microsoft has a response to that claim, which I'll reveal in part 2 of this review, but suffice to say they're going to get eaten alive for these similarities."


As far as mystery meat navigation. It's a navigation style of having buttons with no labels of what you are clicking on. Like IE7 in vista no menus no labels. http://www.winsupersite.com/images/s...a_5308_304.jpg

Just my observation, I'm not a big fan of Vista and I've got an MSDN subscription and normally am on top of anything that is new however Vista doesn't excite me at all.
To each their own. I really don't think Vista resembles OS X and I have used both. Also, OS X actually copied spotlight off of an MS proposed technology for inclusion in Vista, so in that case it is the other way around.

A lot of the "exciting" stuff in Vista is not in the visuals but the guts. The new security I touched on, far shorter boot times, overall speed and even things like enabling Antivirus and Spykiller software to be built and run as low level services, which if properly implemented by people like Symantec will put an end to the "ccApp" silliness we sometimes get in XP.
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Originally Posted by Joelist
things like enabling Antivirus and Spykiller software to be built and run as low level services
Surely that means virus' can be written to run as low level services too
post #18 of 101
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Originally Posted by TonyKL
Surely that means virus' can be written to run as low level services too



Oh and btw I despise macs so don't think I'm a mac lover.
post #19 of 101
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyKL
Surely that means virus' can be written to run as low level services too
Actually no it does not. All it means is that a lot of the instances where AV software (Norton is notorious for this) "grabs" your system and sludges everything down are eliminated. The new security setup prevents what you are fearing by requiring a manual input of the root password for any install operation, with the system specifically configured not to accept automatic logons or code generated text. Therefore, to get such a virus would require the operator to knowingly manually input their root password.

This, together with the improvements to the built in firewall and the changes to IE7 (namely that it runs in a sandbox all the time) drastically reduce the vulnerability of Vista to attack.
post #20 of 101
what are the bad things if u send it to me illegaly?
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