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3438G - good or bad? really, whats the truth

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
hi guys,

really wanted to hear some further opinions on this range of laptop.... im interested in buying one but am really undecided due to the amount of bad comments on it
post #2 of 17
Well, I had one for about 2 months and sold it for a substantial loss, cos at the end of the day if you cant play games or watch movies on it, what use is it. Its basically a glorified word processor (no offense to current owners, just my opinion)

Anyways, my advice, stay well clear, seems its cheap for a reason.

I would never buy anything from FSC again !!!
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
i am coming to the same opinion. mayb go for the acer ferrari 4005 instead, though its only got one drive, but hey, i have desktops i can install raid into and use as a file server.... or alternatively, like my other posts, im looking at one of the rock xtreme ct machines (www.rockdirect.co.uk).

shame as they machines looks decent enough on paper but considerably problems it seems....

out of interest, did you have your one setup on raid 1 across the 2 drives?
post #4 of 17
my personal opinion: Dont buy!
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by Cubicegg
i am coming to the same opinion. mayb go for the acer ferrari 4005 instead, though its only got one drive, but hey, i have desktops i can install raid into and use as a file server.... or alternatively, like my other posts, im looking at one of the rock xtreme ct machines (www.rockdirect.co.uk).

shame as they machines looks decent enough on paper but considerably problems it seems....

out of interest, did you have your one setup on raid 1 across the 2 drives?

I had mine setup as RAID 0...
post #6 of 17
If it doesn't have the lagging bug then it's a great machine for a great price. Minor shortcomings (such as the white paint on the keys gradually coming off and the average build quality ingeneral) are more than offset by its superb screen, its high-end internal components, and the low price.

If it does have the lagging issue, then it's virtually useless for gaming, and video/mp3 playback won't be much fun either.

So what I would do, is test-drive the unit you get for a good long time (make a deal with the vendor that allows you to return it within the next two months, or something like that). If you don't notice the lagging, there's nothing to stop you from keeping it.
post #7 of 17
Well actually the screen aint so great as there is a 'flickering' issue with the screens which worried me as cant be good for your eyesite.

Also, mine didnt lag initially...
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by ShandyUK
Well actually the screen aint so great as there is a 'flickering' issue with the screens which worried me as cant be good for your eyesite.
Nah, the effect can't be worse than that of the older CRT monitors which flickered, and the worst thing the latter have been proven to do is give photosensitive people (and only them) a migraine now and then, no more.

And the most important thing is that you don't actually see the flickering, ever, except in a test image.

The angles, the lack of glare, the brightness, etc. are all superb.

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Also, mine didnt lag initially...
A worrisome (and as yet unexplained) point, yes. Better make that deal "four years" instead of "two months", to be on the safe side.

Out of curiosity: are you a typical mobile user (i.e. turning the 3438 on and off a lot, meaning you've done thousands of shutdowns/startups by now) or a desktop replacement user (i.e. leaving it turned on virtually always)?
post #9 of 17
I am typical mobile user...
post #10 of 17

M3438G User

Hi all!

I have the M3438G with 512MB RAM and Samsung 80GB HD, I have no lag on DVD or MP3 playback but It seems that there is lag on games.

I have checked two games and they have lag. I have updated my VGA bios and the nVidia drivers but no luck...

If you would like the laptop for games mainly you should check it before buy, on the other hand the price of M3438G with the specific configuration is 1299 euros only...


regards
post #11 of 17
i have M3438G
200GB hdd
1GB of rab
p4m 770

it lags every 30 minutes
secure wifi beeing dropeed 2-4 times a day
monitor flicen (send to service whrere they changed LCD matrix but still flickens)
cooler is noisy

so, what you think - is it worth paying 5 - 10 % less and get all the crap, or go to dell or rock?
post #12 of 17
m3438g
PM 760 (2GHz)
2 x 60gb HDDs Raid #0
2 x 512mb ddr2 533 RAM

Love it, but the Raid#0 config runs hot now it's summer time here in the UK, with the HDDs reaching >51 degC (maximum) in tandem. Am going to reconfigure the OS and take one of the HDDs out after I've finished a load of projects to deal with this. At the moment, I have the front end of the laptop propped up an inch (at an angle) to increase airflow underneath.

I don't play games often, so don't see the lag. I haven't ever played DVDs on it either. However, I do listen to a heck of a lot of music on it (primarily because it's used as the main computer in a music studio!) and I can't say I have ever recalled it lagging/glitching on playback. It does "brrrrrr" for a second or two when you activate/switch the WinAmp visualisations (ie. when switching between different graphics resolutions), but that's being picky as I never use visualisations anyway.

I played an old game, Hard-Truck or something, and a coverdisk demo of a game called Ford Racing 2, and both games lagged when it accessed the HD which messed up the gameplay (the sprite went haywire due to the delay), so I definately feel for those people who are gamers. The graphics were beautiful on FR2.

The screen does flicker when scrolling, often very annoyingly, but I've since tried my mum's 19" Sony TFT and that does the same thing. I can only guess it's an LCD thing, as CRTs don't have this problem. (LCDs have finite delays in the switching circuits of each and every pixel, whereas CRTs work via projection and are effectively analogous in nature [ie. they don't employ a fixed native resolution] and the image is refreshed globally at the same time, as opposed to an individual pixel-by-pixel illumination method like the LCDs).

Bring on OLEDs, that's all I say.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by janiskr
it lags every 30 minutes
Same here, more or less.
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secure wifi beeing dropeed 2-4 times a day
Nope, not with me. It loses connection occasionally, but no more than any other wireless devices.

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monitor flicen (send to service whrere they changed LCD matrix but still flickens)
You mean flicker with the test image, or flicker in general?

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cooler is noisy
Mine's pretty quiet. Generally speaking, you're unluckier than I've been.

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so, what you think - is it worth paying 5 - 10 % less and get all the crap, or go to dell or rock?
Dell aren't perfect either (their support might be better though). Discounting the lag, you have about the same chance of getting a laptop with major faults as with FSC.

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Originally Posted by Kieran
I haven't ever played DVDs on it either.
You ought to watch a two-hour avi or quicktime file from the HD in one go sometime, just to see what the lag is like there. Always interesting, also for the rest of us.

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The screen does flicker when scrolling, often very annoyingly, but I've since tried my mum's 19" Sony TFT and that does the same thing.
Odd, mine doesn't...or if it does then it is not noticeable. Maybe I'm not so perceptive.
post #14 of 17
I have a 3438G for testing which I bought for €850 with one year garantie up to June 2007.
When the brightness is at a minimum I can see the flickering but when I turn the brihgtness above halfway up then it's not noticeable.
Mines got two 80GB HDDs, 1GB DDR-2 and 1.73Ghz Centrino. I watched a short film last night and it stuttered/Burred briefly for about 1 second.
I'm trying to put my Asus A7D image onto the 3438G to save hours of new installing but I get a blue screen. So I might have to settle for spending the whole night installing the system. Then I'll run some tests with BF2, Call of Duty2 etc...
My A7D has an x700 GPU so you can imagine I'm going to have some fun with the 6800GO when I get the games installed.
Though I don't really think there will be great deal of performance gain.
I benched 3DM03:
x700 = 6600 points
6800 = 8600 points
so I don't really think the extra 2000 points is going to make much of an impact, maybe 10FPS more...
But generaly the 3438G is quicker than my A7D. It's got SATA, and DDR-2.
My A7D has a Turion64 1.8Ghz and 2GB DDR-400Mhz and a 120GB Samsung HDD. The 38438G is alot hotter than the A7D. My A7D has benn running 24/7 for about three months cool!!! I want to test the 3438G 24/7 to see if it'll be able to replace the A7D...
post #15 of 17
I have a 3438G and (touching wood) I have never seen any of the above mentioned problems. Spec is in Sig, but I have never seen any lag, brrrr sounds freezing etc, Wifi is rock solid (latest drivers) no display flicker at all.
Had it about a year and it has never failed to impress me with it's performance.
Not up to date with the latest gear i know but still plays HL2,prey,GTA, Q4,COD2 at good settings at native. Fear was OK too but had to back down the re a bit.
I have used this to watch untold avi movies downloaded from my favorite sites (usually a BIT at a time), Had many all night gaming sessions on it and have not had a problem. Guess I'm just lucky but the machine has been spot on.
post #16 of 17
OK, I sold the 3438G. It was terrible at the end... Alot of Burrring and Blurring. A few BSOD's. A lot of over heating.
Definitely not for 24/7 use.
It wasn't worth the extra 10FPS over my ultra stable Asus A7D (Z83D) with x700.
I advise anybody with a 3438G, get rid of it while you can...
post #17 of 17
Well, I might as well add my five cents to the topic, as I own one. Recently took the gamble and bought it (couldn't resist the price: 990€). I'm really satisfied, after 3 weeks of heavy usage I've noticed the lag 4 times, meaning it's performance isn't affected. I'll be paying attention to future developments to the lag. Even if it gets worse, it won't affect me as I use an external hard-drive (those aren't affected, it's a known workaround).
Anyway, I couldn't be more satisfied, it's a shame that the lag problem affects so hard on many people. I think I got lucky
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