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post #21 of 52
Thread Starter 
Ok cool. I'll probably snag one. AW order canceled.

My big concern all these weeks was customer service.
If I had to go through heck to purchase and receive a system, what's it going to be like if it breaks and I'm waiting for a replacement?
post #22 of 52
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3
how is ur card not fried
I had mine at 460/1300. I decided to downclock it to 460/1250.. I run that daily... it's fine, never breaks 82C
post #23 of 52
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What do you get at that OC Penguin?

I'm assuming your XPS lappy is equivalent or just under the 2.2 ghz maxed out one that I'll get...?
post #24 of 52
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Originally Posted by Penguin1257
I had mine at 460/1300. I decided to downclock it to 460/1250.. I run that daily... it's fine, never breaks 82C
post #25 of 52
msduncan what are your final specs for your xps. if you haven't ordered then get the lowest cpu and buy a new one then pin mod it it has to be 400fsb.
post #26 of 52
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Originally Posted by ikilledkenny2
Yeah they are the same laptops just the difference is that one has been heavily modified to get those scores and the xps needs very few upgrades besides basic stuff like drivers and overclocking. The score will be some where in the range with the correct modifications. Also if you want to have the fastest cpu I suggest getting the lowest cpu and then buying a new one and pin modding it. ie 1.8@ 2.4 or possibly 2.0@2.66 ask Mr.9865 for help on that. you have to buy a new cpu to do that as it has to be a 400fsb card not 533fsb.
post #27 of 52
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Guys to be honest I'm not that great at overclocking via messing with the hardware. If I can do it via software settings or something I'm golden. When it comes to messing with hardware it usually results in disaster.

That being said -- if I buy a top o the line XPS2, what is the best performance I can get with it via software overclocking?
post #28 of 52
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Originally Posted by msduncan
Guys to be honest I'm not that great at overclocking via messing with the hardware. If I can do it via software settings or something I'm golden. When it comes to messing with hardware it usually results in disaster.

That being said -- if I buy a top o the line XPS2, what is the best performance I can get with it via software overclocking?
auto oc...
post #29 of 52
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Originally Posted by msduncan
Guys to be honest I'm not that great at overclocking via messing with the hardware. If I can do it via software settings or something I'm golden. When it comes to messing with hardware it usually results in disaster.

That being said -- if I buy a top o the line XPS2, what is the best performance I can get with it via software overclocking?
the only thing for the graphics is bios oc'ing, which isnt hard at all...and the only way u can oc the cpu is pinmodding
post #30 of 52
Thread Starter 
How much impact does the CPU have on performance vs the chip?

In other words -- will I be able to push this machine into the 7000's on 3dMark05 just by doing the bios oc'ing?
post #31 of 52
Thread Starter 
I guess my dilemma is that many of the AW folks are telling me that the m170 won't hold a candle to the m7700 with the FX60. But they seem to be talking about multitasking -- which I'm not sure their definition of multitasking. The most multitasking I'm likely to be doing is Word and Internet Explorer up at the same time, or a game with Internet Explorer up in the background.
post #32 of 52
its pretty much a tossup performance wise....my pin modded 2.67 will perform on par with the fx-60 or maybe even outperform it in games. The price of the 9300/m170 is around half of what you are going to pay for the Alienware....hell you can pick up a basic 9300 for less than a FX-60 by its self
post #33 of 52
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Originally Posted by bluedevils32701
my pin modded 2.67 will perform on par with the fx-60 or maybe even outperform it in games
for real?? dang
post #34 of 52
i don't knowwhy but aw has alot of isses with their overheatness on laptops and fried mobos. the dell xps 170 is a great machine, if i hadn't changed my mind to get a really kickass desktop i would've gotten the 170, good choice
post #35 of 52
If you want to be ready for the future, the FX is probably the better way to go. 64bit and dual core (at least FX-60). Vista and the 64 linux distros are being made with those technologies in mind. Nothing (or relatively little) new is being made for the P-M and 32 bit architecture. Sure there will be a 32 bit Vista and those of us with 32 bit CPUs are safe for a long, long time, but there will be fewer breakthroughs for our older systems than for the newer ones.

As for raw processing, maybe a pin-mod P-M can keep up with a stock FX-60 in current games and single threaded applications, but newer games and multithreaded apps are coming. Don't forget that the pin-mods are not guaranteed and you should also be able to overclock the AMD-FX. Certainly not like a liquid cooled desktop, but I bet you could squeeze some extra out of it if you needed to.

If cash was not a factor, I would look to FNW or Voodoo--AW is a good alternative if you like the style and want to save some bucks. Sager or similar save you even more. They are all clevos--just some have better paint.

It may sound like I don't like my XPS, which isn't true. I love it, but part of the reason for my purchase was price. Another part is the strong community here with a butt-ton of good info. If I could justify buying the FX before, I would have but the price was almost double what I paid for my XPS. I think there are a few people here who got their 9300 for less than the price of the FX-60 processor alone!
post #36 of 52
maybe you should wate for the next xps.
post #37 of 52
yah, or why not go for e1705. it rox. all rounder too. wont get amazing frame rates, but it rox at just about everyother thing relaly awesomely too...
post #38 of 52
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Originally Posted by UNICRON-WMD
What?

You guys need to get to hacking!!! A E1705 with a 2.0 Core Duo and a 7800 GTX would be a pretty badass computer!
I'm a 9300 modded guy... and let's just say plenty of us are trying to help out our 9400 brothers in the video card department. We're doing all the research we can right now. It's not like we're playing with lego's here... where we can just rebuild the entire laptop design by using more or different blocks. =(
post #39 of 52
And another thing, directed at duncan.

With an FX-60 CPU in that thing I'm scared to think how much that configuration must've cost. I'm shuddering at even the thought of going to the AW website and checking out the price.
post #40 of 52
Quick check by me was Falcon NW (X2-4800+ no FX-60) was over 6K, alienware (with FX-60) was 4100.

Neither system loaded out fully. You could easily spend more. Ouch!
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