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Dell's Samsung i6000 screens are rediculous

post #1 of 18
3/8/06 at 12:44am
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Why? Because they don't support every resolution below the native, and it's really ticking me off! When I had an WSXGA+, I couldn't get it to run at SXGA+ (only SXGA, which looked rather squished.) They don't even support settings like this on the WUXGA!

Are these screens really locked to only certain resolutions?
I've tried using Powerstrip to make a custom resolution, but it still doesn't work. Also, I'm not trying to do this in just a game, but Windows desktop won't even help with this. Using the scale image setting doesn't cause anything to happen, and neither does the setting in the BIOS. Is there some special driver or something for this, or are we all really stuck with just a handfull of resolutions?
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post #2 of 18
3/8/06 at 2:17am
You don't like the native resolution? And yeah, I think your stuck with what it comes with. I'm pretty happy with the native resolution on my i6000 WSXGA display. As far as brand, I don't know what I have, how did you figure that out? Did you make sure you have the dpi setting set to the native too? That can really change alot.
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post #3 of 18
3/8/06 at 2:27am
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DPI is normal, and I have no problem with native res in Windows, but games can really benifit from not having to run at such high resolutions without having to sacrafice to the lowest of the lows.

There's a few ways to figure out brands, one of which is too just look at the sticker on the back of the screen. I had to change the monitor myself, so I know that I had a Samsung and I got a new Samsung. You can use Knoppix live cd to find out about your screen too. It's all in the Dell FAQ.
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post #4 of 18
3/8/06 at 2:49am
My i6000d Samsung WUXGA+ goes all the way down to 800x600
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post #5 of 18
3/8/06 at 3:08am
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Yeah, so does mine, but I mean those resolutions like 960x600, 1028x960, etc. etc. Those don't work, but on other laptops they do.
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post #6 of 18
3/8/06 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by amazin asian
Why? Because they don't support every resolution below the native, and it's really ticking me off! When I had an WSXGA+, I couldn't get it to run at SXGA+ (only SXGA, which looked rather squished.) They don't even support settings like this on the WUXGA!

Are these screens really locked to only certain resolutions?
I've tried using Powerstrip to make a custom resolution, but it still doesn't work. Also, I'm not trying to do this in just a game, but Windows desktop won't even help with this. Using the scale image setting doesn't cause anything to happen, and neither does the setting in the BIOS. Is there some special driver or something for this, or are we all really stuck with just a handfull of resolutions?
this isnt just dell LCDs. its every LCD made, to this day.
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post #7 of 18
3/8/06 at 4:16am
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Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
this isnt just dell LCDs. its every LCD made, to this day.
I've heard of plenty of LCD that can hit resolutions like 1280x960 at least, and these can't even do that.
They have about 10 resolutions, but it would be really nice if they could have at least 12 (add 1280x960 and 1400x1050, and posibly 960x600.)
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post #8 of 18
3/8/06 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
this isnt just dell LCDs. its every LCD made, to this day.
That would be incorrect. The vast majority of LCD displays support lower resolutions (easily over 90% of them). However, the image quality isn't as good (downright terrible on some) if you aren't running native resolution.

Many laptops also let you run other resolutions and give you a choice via BIOS to either stretch the image to fit the entire display, or maintain the proper aspect ratio and leave the remaining part of the display blank.
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post #9 of 18
3/8/06 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by Kadman
That would be incorrect. The vast majority of LCD displays support lower resolutions (easily over 90% of them). However, the image quality isn't as good (downright terrible on some) if you aren't running native resolution.

Many laptops also let you run other resolutions and give you a choice via BIOS to either stretch the image to fit the entire display, or maintain the proper aspect ratio and leave the remaining part of the display blank.
Most LCD's do have support for other resolutions besides 10 common ones when you have the WUXGA screen size. These, however, do not.
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post #10 of 18
3/8/06 at 9:36pm
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Originally Posted by Kadman
That would be incorrect. The vast majority of LCD displays support lower resolutions (easily over 90% of them). However, the image quality isn't as good (downright terrible on some) if you aren't running native resolution.

Many laptops also let you run other resolutions and give you a choice via BIOS to either stretch the image to fit the entire display, or maintain the proper aspect ratio and leave the remaining part of the display blank.

when i say dont support it i mean, looks like $hit (:
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post #11 of 18
3/8/06 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by chevyrulz099
when i say dont support it i mean, looks like $hit (:
They don't look bad at lower resolutions unless you are glued to the screen,, and I'm not talking about how bad they look, but how it can't display certaint resolutions, and I mean actualy running them.
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post #12 of 18
3/8/06 at 11:36pm
It's not the LCD, it's your ATI card. The card is responsible for rescaling whatever resolution you request to the native resolution of the LCD. Nvidia doesn't seem to have any problem doing this.
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post #13 of 18
3/9/06 at 1:08am
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Originally Posted by dellbert
It's not the LCD, it's your ATI card. The card is responsible for rescaling whatever resolution you request to the native resolution of the LCD. Nvidia doesn't seem to have any problem doing this.
The card? I switched the Omega drivers, and I have options for every resolution under the sun, the monitor just doesn't display them properly. Exp, when I set the resolution to say 1400x1050, the monitor acts like it is a 1280x1024 resolution, and only that amount of pixels are avalible to see, and to see the rest you have to "scroll" by putting the mouse over to the edge of the screen. I still think it's the screen, and that it should be able to do whatever I ask.
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post #14 of 18
3/9/06 at 1:16am
The LCD is just a dumb array of pixels. It has a fixed number of little lights that it can light up. That's all it knows how to do.

The video card says, "Huh? You want 1400x1050? That means I need to light up every 1.37 pixels in a row, and every 1.14 pixels in a column. Forget it!"
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post #15 of 18
3/9/06 at 1:22am
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Originally Posted by dellbert
The LCD is just a dumb array of pixels. It has a fixed number of little lights that it can light up. That's all it knows how to do.

The video card says, "Huh? You want 1400x1050? That means I need to light up every 1.37 pixels in a row, and every 1.14 pixels in a column. Forget it!"
Anyway to make it not stupid? Like driver editing or something? Or are ATI cards really unable to do anything other that what they were programs from the factory to do?
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post #16 of 18
3/9/06 at 1:36am
I'm pretty sure the supported resolutions are a function of the firmware on the video card. There are software descalers, but I've never heard of one at the driver level.

Here are the resolutions ATI says they support for the X300:
http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx300/specs.html
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post #17 of 18
3/9/06 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by dellbert
I'm pretty sure the supported resolutions are a function of the firmware on the video card. There are software descalers, but I've never heard of one at the driver level.

Here are the resolutions ATI says they support for the X300:
http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx300/specs.html
It's interesting that 1680x1050 is not on there, and I have no support for 1152x864 abd 1920x1080. Also, I found this:
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*16:9 aspect ratio monitors are supported on 1920x1080 and 848x480 on Windows® XP, and Windows® 2000. The complete list of resolutions depends on the driver version and operating system. NOTE: resolutions are limited by the performance of the attached monitor.
But it still maybe in the firmware. Any chance of me getting Dell to put forth a new BIOS for the x300 that supports a few more resolutions?
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post #18 of 18
3/14/06 at 11:41pm
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Is there anyway to make it work? BIOS editing or something?
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