e1705... 7800 and x1400 interchangeable? - Page 2

Any chance someone would like to produce a guide/howto on swapping these cards out.

I'm waiting for my i9400/X1400 to arrive and will be buying an nvidia card for it, though i havnt got a clue on how to install it.

oh, and this is my first post so pardons if something is wrong with it

Here is a guide straight from Dell -

http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1006368

Anyone want to buy an X1400 from me now? It was only used for an hour or so

The X1400 is a card that plugs into the mobo just the same as the 7800.

OK!
then i cant wait any longer. i NEED a i9400 NOW!
.....
and there we go. i ordered one, with X1400
maybe i can jump directly over to 7900?

Wait...so Dell does have a stock of 7800gos? Is this how you people are upgrading?

Mzimm you can buy the card in the upgrade section if you call them. The part number is up ahead, I been thinking about doing this but my wife will kill me. Im going to wait a bit longer before ordering.

I spoke with a guy in Dell (UK) earlier this week and he confirmed that you can buy them through dell but i would be looking at around a month or so as out of stock.

He did mention that i could buy one from the high street, which was rather odd.

What sort of release date we looking at for the 7900 ?

DELL France Support Service Sucks

Hey Guys, I have been reading about the 7800go shortage and i was still able to buy the 9400 with the 7800 go. It was all good untill i receive an email from dell telling me that my order was going to be delivered on 23th of may. What the hell as that since I placed my order on 16th of march?? I have been in contact with dell support service since that email and had a lot of argue with them and the only answer i got was that either i choose another 9400 with an ATI x1400 or i can fell free to cancel my order. I feel this is completely nonsense since they seem not to care about their customers. I said that i could wait since i really want this card, but all i want as some sort of discount since i was going to wait 2 months for it and by the time it arrive the price was going to be lower than what i initially paid for. As you can imagine I got no success at all.

Today I read about the fact that you could buy an 7800 later and upgrade it, so i decided to change my order and choose an x1400 instead an then receive it in 10 days.

So I went to the site and when i typed in my code it came to my attention that my order has been canceled!!!!! I did not do it! They did it!!

I am really upset about this. I still cant believe that they did this!

I dont know if i am going to buy a new one from them since seems that Dell France does not care if you buy their computers or not but i have to addimit one thing: I have looked over and could not find a laptop as cheap and powerfull as a dell 9400.

I am going back to Brazil next month, and then place an order for the 7800go in DELL USA site wich from what i have read seems to have been taking control of this situation better than its other subsidiaries.

Or maybe i will have a look around here to buy one 7800go or 7800GTX from other companies like Kenitec - french notebook supplier - to see if it fits mine 9400. What do you guys think about that? Is it going to be possible?

Sorry for the long reply, and any help would be nice!!!

@S3rgin:
the same happend to me, except i just sent in mine for change of memory and screen.
They canceled my order, WITHOUT telling me ( and had no intentions on doing so ).
So my laptop was "gone", and they couldnt even return the one i delivered to them.
fortunately i was able to get a good deal on a system with X1400.
so thats what i went for. and upgrade at a later time.

I to would like to know about other supliers of videocards for laptop

to the best of my knowledge you'll have to get the 7800 from dell (or someone who got theirs from dell) since it will not be the same shape/have the same connectors/connector locations/cooling system etc. if you get a 7800 from some other notebook supplier.

So what is the difference between 7800go and 7800gtx? The E1705 with x1400 is PCI-E... Are all mobile 7800 cards PCI-E? 6800s came both AGP and PCI-E, but I don't know about 7800s first hand. I would assume, since i9300s had 7800 cards available (but i9300 was not PCI-E) that some 7800s are not PCI-E... Another something to think about.

Edit: just in case someone goes to look it up, the i9400 is also PCI-E. Another note, the E1505 comes with x1400 option as well, but it is NOT PCI-E. If there are indeed two different 7800 cards, could one upgrade an E1505 with an AGP 7800 and an E1705 with the PCI-E 7800?

i wanna know out if the graphics cards from the e1705 (such as the 7800go) can be swapped into an e1505. Perhaps when someone gets their e1505 w/x1400, they can dissect and take pictures of how the video card is mounted versus how it's mounted in the e1705?

PCI-E is just used by Dell as a specification of the signals going over this bus.
The connector itself and the positioning of the signals on the connector are fully according to Dell specs and aren't interchangeable with any other PCI-E connector.
Dell can even use the same connector on two different laptops, but change the position of the signals. Mechanically it looks the same, but electrically it does not work.
To answer the question if the 7800Go and 7800Go GTX are electrically interchangeable: this will only be the case if the PCI-E connector AND the monitor connector have the same pin layout.
From a mechanical point of view, they are completely interchangeable, apart from some binding post that could be in the way, but can be unsoldered.

I have tried a 6800Go in a 9400, but it did not work. Windows XP did not find new harware, and there was no single message on the LCD screen, not even the Nvidia Bios message at startup.
So either the PCI-E bus has a different layout, or the pinning of the monitor connector is different.

Since the 6800Go and the 7800Go GTX can both be used in the 9300, I am afraid that the 7800Go GTX also fails to work in a 9400 because some electrical pin layout is different to the 9300.

Any more success on switching X1400 with 7800Go?

Hum, maybe I'll delete my for sale thread and tear down my i9300 again...

Anyone know the answer to this yet?

I wish they did because I am holding on a purchase of i9400 w/x1400 until I know for certain. Anybody know the price for the different flavors of 7800 through Dell?

Alright Everyone, I posted this earlier in this Thread. The x1400 IS interchangeable with the 7800GO. I verified this with a friend of mine who works for Dell as tech support. The part costs about $300 from dell. I have one on order and will be posting a step by step How To for the upgrade. So go ahead and order your laptops, Dell will have new cards in stock soon.

step by step guide? your kidding right? its not hard to pop the top on the laptop.

300$ for the 7800 is rubbish. the x1400 is a 150$ updgrade to begin with.

thats too much for that. ill just wait for it to be an upgrade option for the x1400 ( i bet when the 7800/7900 becomes availible again, the x1300 will go bye bye, and the x1400 will move to its price point, and the 7800 will go to the x1400 price point)

Thanks for the info....I didn't see your earlier post. I purchased the i9400 last night. I listed the details below. Best part of the deal is the "award winning support" and the holy grail of 6 months free AOL lol!



Inspiron E1705
Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2300 (1.66GHz/667MHz FSB), Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 Qty: 1
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LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
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Memory FREE!1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
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Primary Battery 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
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Hardware Warranty 1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr Mail-In Service, and 1Yr HW Warranty Support
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Dial-Up Internet Access 6 Months of America Online Membership Included
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Wireless Personal Networking Card Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Internal(2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
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Operating System Re-Installation CD PC Restore recovery system by Symantec
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