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post #21 of 46
3/15/06 at 2:36am
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Originally Posted by Chaka Kahn
Damn Small Linux, Knoppix, and Ubuntu FTW.
Can't even play DirectX games on Linux. Boo!!!!

Vista will be pretty sweet. I can't wait. I hope they gave up on the activation and it's just back to Windows98 days where a serial is all you need
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post #22 of 46
3/15/06 at 5:29am
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Originally Posted by Shepoch
Well, Aero isn't.
Aero isn't something anyone with sense would call useful, however.
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post #23 of 46
3/15/06 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
I hope they gave up on the activation and it's just back to Windows98 days where a serial is all you need
Dude wake up. Reality called... time to get up.
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post #24 of 46
3/15/06 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
Can't even play DirectX games on Linux. Boo!!!!
Cedega FTW
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post #25 of 46
3/15/06 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by digitalpunk
Dude wake up. Reality called... time to get up.
I'm just kidding around. How could anyone say that and be serious?
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post #26 of 46
3/17/06 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by majorx
It looks like there will be at least 6 versions of Vista, 12 if you count the 32bit and 64 bit versions separately.
Has MS lost its mind?
How can anyone confidently choose a version?
I guess the "ultimate" version is the safe one to buy, but I can only imagine how bloated that will be or how pricey.
I guess "user-friendly" will remain the impossible dream.
Too bad Linux seems to have fallen on hard times (or has it?)
I think this is a way for MS to make more money and get richer and fatter than what they already are. Or maybe just away to recoupe the cost of developing a new OS. I have installed the BETA version and its seems to be ok. But I and most people would agree that it is more bloated than XP.
And this BETA version I dont think has all the features the Final Release will have. So I imagine its going to be more bloated than what it already is.

Kinda makes me wonder.
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post #27 of 46
3/17/06 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by jami1
I think this is a way for MS to make more money and get richer and fatter than what they already are. Or maybe just away to recoupe the cost of developing a new OS. I have installed the BETA version and its seems to be ok. But I and most people would agree that it is more bloated than XP.
And this BETA version I dont think has all the features the Final Release will have. So I imagine its going to be more bloated than what it already is.

Kinda makes me wonder.

It's funny, and i'm not picking on you, but every time a new version of windows is released it's called "Bloated".
I install a default version of windows it has programs on it that i will never use. It uses about 2.5gb with Vista? Great.
I install a default version of linux, say SUSE 10.0 and it has programs on it that i will never use. It uses about 3.0gb? Great.
I don't see the argument. Every O/S has what one person or another would consider a feature and another would consider bloat. It's all relative.
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post #28 of 46
3/18/06 at 3:59am
[quote=majorx]It looks like there will be at least 6 versions of Vista, 12 if you count the 32bit and 64 bit versions separately.
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since when will be a 32bit Vista???
Every where i'v rad detailed specs about vista it was specifeid as strictly 64 bit OS. Also directx 10 is going to work only under vista.
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post #29 of 46
3/18/06 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by majorx
It looks like there will be at least 6 versions of Vista, 12 if you count the 32bit and 64 bit versions separately.
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since when will be a 32bit Vista???
Every where i'v rad detailed specs about vista it was specifeid as strictly 64 bit OS. Also directx 10 is going to work only under vista.
Under my company's MSDN downloads page there are two versions of Vista, 32 and 64. I've heard that there will be 2 versions at release as well.
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post #30 of 46
3/18/06 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by digitalpunk
It's funny, and i'm not picking on you, but every time a new version of windows is released it's called "Bloated".
I install a default version of windows it has programs on it that i will never use. It uses about 2.5gb with Vista? Great.
I install a default version of linux, say SUSE 10.0 and it has programs on it that i will never use. It uses about 3.0gb? Great.
I don't see the argument. Every O/S has what one person or another would consider a feature and another would consider bloat. It's all relative.
All that space on Vista will be taken up by things that are difficult or impossible to remove and that are truly part of the OS (or that Microsoft considers part of it, like its DRM engine).

Most of the space taken up by a Linux install is from applications that are included for free, and at install-time you can always choose not to install them. Games, office suites, web tools, servers, aim/irc clients, mail clients, ... there's a huge amount of useful and optional software that comes with a Linux distro.

Windows? You get Media Player and IE, both of which suck.
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post #31 of 46
3/19/06 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by Entropius
Windows? You get Media Player and IE, both of which suck.
According to you. I use them all the time. IE7 and WMP10. I love them.
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post #32 of 46
3/19/06 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Entropius
All that space on Vista will be taken up by things that are difficult or impossible to remove and that are truly part of the OS
Whoa! Just like...... every other Windows release? Who cares?
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post #33 of 46
3/20/06 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Entropius
Windows? You get Media Player and IE, both of which suck.
I'm not 100% sure about this but i'v heard some rumors that these apps won't be included anymore in win. You will have to install them yourself. The reason: because an OS should not do things like video playback, just managing the computers resources, and I agree with that.
Also it will have tons of write protections.
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post #34 of 46
3/21/06 at 3:56am
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Originally Posted by digitalpunk
According to you. I use them all the time. IE7 and WMP10. I love them.
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post #35 of 46
3/22/06 at 12:28pm
i just don't realize why they make everything like a "built-in-HAL-hyper-compiler" for linux, but allow users to configure WPA (wifi security) only in text mode. that makes me wonder how much linux is truly prepared to run on notebooks. not that "linux sucks", it's a very good OS (and i like it), i just think it's not prepared to compete seriously with windows. at least not in the notebook of the average user.
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post #36 of 46
3/22/06 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by Entropius
Windows? You get Media Player and IE, both of which suck.
And what, on a Mac you get Quicktime and iTunes, both of which blow.

Hey, with all this sucking and blowing we can have quite the party.
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post #37 of 46
3/22/06 at 10:25pm
This is how i see it. Why does linux need to compete with windows? Linux is minding its own business. Really if you dont want to or dont have the time to fix a few hardware issues or whatnot, stfu and pay the exuberant price that window will charge for vista. Oh well that's life.

I'll stick with linux, save myself a couple hundred bucks, and enjoy a better os for free, on my asus laptop might i add. With everything working on it, special buttons etc.

And its not like vista is going to be bug free.

While i do agree that xp isnt as bad as people make it to be, just wait for vista

Oh, and you can play many games in linux, under /cedega /wine. Etc, some dont even require those programs.
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post #38 of 46
3/22/06 at 10:53pm
I think the problem is not Windows being buggy. The real problem is that there are a lot of people that hate Microsoft and they are always trying to find ways to crash it.

I've heard some people say: Linux is viruses free!
I don't know much about Linux (and I don't want to fight or make you guys mad), but I think that being Linux an open source OS, it is much easier to find a way to crash it or to make a virus for it. It does not happen because all the hackers out there only want to hurt Microsoft.

I'm not defending Microsoft, their products are just too overpriced, and I don't like it. But right now, I'm comfortable with it. I can work, I can play, I haven't had too much difficulties with it.
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post #39 of 46
3/22/06 at 10:53pm
You make it seem like Windows is the only piece of software that comes out buggy... which is BS. Let me see your Linux before you spend a day finding all the right drivers and programs to make it run the way it should without screwing up on you.

Yeah, same story.

I'm not saying Linux is inferior. Only a noob would deny its credibility. But to lower a system we all use at some point because no other can do what this one can... that's also pretty silly to me.
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post #40 of 46
3/23/06 at 12:14am
Fair enough.

Many first releases are buggy. Yet windows fanboys say that it will be the perfect os. BS, just wait and see.

Of course linux distros in their first release have bugs in the them. THe advantage to linux is that they constantly fix those with new releases.

I've never had a virus in windows, i believe that regardless of the OS you need to protect your system. But, lets face it like you said the majority of virii exist for windows. LIke i said im not anti microsoft. I like the fact that bill gates helps tons of people thourgh aid, scholarships, medicines etc. I just dont like teh OS too much. I prefer linux any day. Spending a couple hours tweaking linux is not worth it? It wll last longer and more stable than a windows system which you need to constantly take care of. I just type

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

and i have all the updates they have released.

Use whatever suits you best.
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