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post #21 of 37
3/14/06 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by DaddyOf2Girls
I'll throw my 2 cents in over here too:

Dell = Ford.

Ford owns
Lincoln
Mercury
Mazda (controling interest)
Volvo
Jaguar
Land Rover
Aston Martin


If Dell buys Alienware it will be like when Ford bought Aston Martin or Volvo.


Will you see Ford parts on an Aston Martin? NO
Will you see a Ford that uses some Aston Martin Parts and Styling thats cheeper than the Aston Martin? YES Its a cheaper version of the GT (prototype)

The Alienware brand is way to valuable for Dell to get rid of it.
Unfortunately you do - the Aston Martin DB series has been criticised for having parts from a Ford Fiesta.

John
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post #22 of 37
3/15/06 at 1:17am
just rumors everyone

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6049853.html
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post #23 of 37
3/15/06 at 1:24am
hey i have that little silver clock darth beavis (:
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post #24 of 37
3/15/06 at 2:39am
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
Very nice, but what makes it Alienware? The case? If you put a Ferrari body on a Fiero does it make it a Ferrari?

How do you like your G15? I love mine but the LCD gets 0 use.

The $7500 reciept I have when I bought it in Jan 04 from Alienware makes it in Alienware The GPUs I bought from AW. And bud, the parts in their are Alienware grade or HIGHER. Your analogy would make it seem otherwise. Check oout the specs (not Dell Quad level but close enuf):

Modded Alienware Aurora ALX SLI
AMD FX 60 @ 2.8ghz 220x13
DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert
2GB XP4000 REDLINE DUAL PACK (2X1GB) 3-3-2-7
Dual 7800 GTX 512s @ 617mhz/1.77ghz
Internal Drives: Two 500 gig Hitachis, one 300 gig SATA drive, two Raptors in raid 0
External Drives: four 400 Gig drives, one 500 gig lacie big disk extreme
Cooling Circuit 1:Alienware ALX cooling (Koolance) with added Thermaltake Aquabay Flow Indicator, Thermaltake CPU block
Cooling Circuit 2: Swiftech pump, DD BlackIce radiator,DangerDen 78 SLI blocks
PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 850watt
Case has custom laser etched window and has been painted by Smooth Creations with custom Star wars graphics, 30" Dell 3007 LCD monitor
3dMark05: 14896 3dmark06: 9811

This rig as of today has the top NBF ORB 3dmark06 score:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...31&postcount=2

My fav component: The 30" Dell 3007. I LOVE THE THING!!!
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post #25 of 37
3/15/06 at 2:49am
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
The $7500 reciept I have when I bought it in Jan 04 from Alienware makes it in Alienware The GPUs I bought from AW. And bud, the parts in their are Alienware grade or HIGHER. Your analogy would make it seem otherwise. Check oout the specs (not Dell Quad level but close enuf):

Modded Alienware Aurora ALX SLI
AMD FX 60 @ 2.8ghz 220x13
DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert
2GB XP4000 REDLINE DUAL PACK (2X1GB) 3-3-2-7
Dual 7800 GTX 512s @ 617mhz/1.77ghz
Internal Drives: Two 500 gig Hitachis, one 300 gig SATA drive, two Raptors in raid 0
External Drives: four 400 Gig drives, one 500 gig lacie big disk extreme
Cooling Circuit 1:Alienware ALX cooling (Koolance) with added Thermaltake Aquabay Flow Indicator, Thermaltake CPU block
Cooling Circuit 2: Swiftech pump, DD BlackIce radiator,DangerDen 78 SLI blocks
PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 850watt
Case has custom laser etched window and has been painted by Smooth Creations with custom Star wars graphics, 30" Dell 3007 LCD monitor
3dMark05: 14896 3dmark06: 9811

This rig as of today has the top NBF ORB 3dmark06 score:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showpo...31&postcount=2

My fav component: The 30" Dell 3007. I LOVE THE THING!!!
Very nice. I'm willing to bet what's in there now cost less than the $7500 you originally paid. I'm not doubting the parts aren't good. I know hardware and those are premium parts, though the 7800 is now outdated I guess I was wondering what made it an Alienware? I wasn't trying to call your PC a Fiero There are kits to make Fieros look like Ferraris so I used that example.

That PC is your creation and you deserve the credit. I wouldn't call it an Alienware if they didn't build it.
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post #26 of 37
3/15/06 at 3:52am
Here's more fuel for the fire....

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/alienwa...are-160423.php

Interesting if you ask me...the vendor? From what I have been able to gather was an nVidia rep...but hey everything is rumor until official anyway...
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post #27 of 37
3/15/06 at 1:21pm
This deal makes a lot of sense to me. Dell has not been able to seriously break into the gaming desktop market. Reviewers have constantly hammered the Dell XPS systems as being nothing more than upgraded Dimensions and having marginal increased performance that is not worth the extra price. I tend to agree.

Dell buying Alienware solves the following issues:
-Gives Dell instant credibility in the Gaming market
-Allows Dell to have an AMD subsidiary for those people who want Dell and AMD
-Allows Dell to leverage economies of scale further reducing costs

Gaming is the fastest area of entertainment growth.

I could sell Dell splitting into three major divisions: Home, Business, and Gaming. (consumer, professional, and uber-geek!)
Home -Dimension lineup offering base model PCs and laptops up to the current Dimension 9150

Business - same as today

Gaming - All XPS models and the Alienware lineup

Looks like a match made in heaven to me. Dell is finally learning that selling computers as commodity products is a losing formula.
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post #28 of 37
3/15/06 at 10:18pm
$7500 and all thrown out in favor of brand new parts.

Nice house DB...message me what it costs if you can. I'm into real estate.
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post #29 of 37
3/16/06 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by SoCalChris
So, who's going to be the first to go into the Alienware forum, and post

Dude, you're gettin' a Dell!
That gave many of us in the AW forum a good laugh...good one, I think you will have many of the AW guys giving positive reps for that post....I wish I would have thought of that myself....you guys love your Dell rigs, and many of the AW guys feel the same about their rigs...its just a few trolls that have made it almost impossible for us to co-exhist within each others forums as eventually, the topic comes around to whose is better than mine...but there are some real great Dell guys that post regularly in the AW area and they, and anyone who can stay off the mine is better than yours, will be welcome, I am sure...once again, SoCalChris...funny as hell dude and right on time...cudos
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post #30 of 37
3/16/06 at 3:58pm
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post #31 of 37
3/16/06 at 6:27pm
I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with this as long as they ran the two companies independantly. If they megre the companies there are likely going to be some hardware rammifacations.

1. Alienware sells AMD. Will Dell?
2. Would Dell sell a system built completely out of OEM (non-propriatery) parts?
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post #32 of 37
3/16/06 at 6:43pm
i guess is the big question is: is dell smart enough to avoid alientating ( no pun intended ) the AW guys by keeping AMDs and OEM parts.

Maybe they could find a happy balance of Dell parts to cut costs ( cases, keyboards, screens etc. ) and OEM parts to keep everyone happy.

No matter what, even if they keep AW's specs and parts identical (which I doubt they can), AW stuff is going to cost less
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post #33 of 37
3/17/06 at 7:29pm
If you guys think dell is getting rid of alienware you are nuts.
The most logical thing for dell to do is get rid of xps and just build an alienware line that is more affordable, as well as the high end gaming machines.
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post #34 of 37
3/17/06 at 7:32pm
Didn't this...... not happen? It would be stupid for Dell to keep XPS and Alienware. I couldn't see Dell keeping AW in operation. It differs quite a bit from what they do PC-wise.
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post #35 of 37
3/18/06 at 4:30am
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Originally Posted by huskyfan23
Didn't this...... not happen? It would be stupid for Dell to keep XPS and Alienware. I couldn't see Dell keeping AW in operation. It differs quite a bit from what they do PC-wise.
Why? That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying that when Ford purchased Jaguar, that they would dissolve Jaguar because it didn't fit their image of affordable low priced cars. Instead what happened? Jagaur benefitted from Ford's bank account and assembly plants. The cars became better built and more dependable.
If all this speculation is true, Dell won't dissolve Alienware. Expect something like a "Alienware by Dell" model to emerge. Alienware would benefit from the cash Dell can poor into the line for R&D and efficient design, quality build, better larger assembly plants, etc. And Dell benefits by now having a pure line of gaming pc's and laptops with an ability to now have an AMD line up. XPS would probably become an Alienware brand, or become a lesser expensive gaming solution as to not compete with the Alienware by Dell brand.
IMO if this goes through, it will greatly benefit us more than hurt us. The only people that will be hurt are those that are brand loyalist and won't the models to compete.
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post #36 of 37
3/20/06 at 5:39pm

makes sense to me

Enthusiast PCs (alienware, VoodooPC, etc) are a very small market, around 2-5% of PC sales. But it is a very high margin, high profit segment. The pricing model is closer to Apple's than it is to Dells. Dell wants that and that is precisely why they went to the XPS line.

AW can use Dell to lower its component and support costs and to market more widely. At the same time they keep their prices just as high as they have always been so they make even greater profit.
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post #37 of 37
3/20/06 at 5:43pm
Remember though that their pricing model is based around Intel heavily cutting the cost of their processors because they do not sell AMD. Without these discounts, Dell's pricing would be in line with other major manufacturers. If this does end up being true, it will be interesting to see what Dell does in regards to the AMD based systems.
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