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post #21 of 49
3/16/06 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by golfkwesi
Thanks for the guideance! Done...where are those sunglassess when you need them.
Hi,

I am about to get me my second 8204 as I decided there is not such powerfool notebook on the market, I am giving it a second chance.

Did you try to run the demos and have you experienced any clicking noise????

cheers
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post #22 of 49
3/16/06 at 8:47pm
No I haven't. I don't see what possible benefit it would do and I sure don't want to do anything that will create a buzz!
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post #23 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by golfkwesi
No I haven't. I don't see what possible benefit it would do and I sure don't want to do anything that will create a buzz!
Well, just out of curiosity. I mean, if it is an hardware issue, then you can not activate or deactivate it running some demo. The only intention was to find out if there are any notebooks without this buzzing stuff being distributed. Buyt of course I fully respect your decission. But let me ask, do you have the 3D settings tuned up to max? So when the little car appears, it does not buzz, right? Casuse that should be enough
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post #24 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:15pm
Thread Starter 
It's funny. I just (after a month with my 8204) got into a quiet-enough room that I could hear the buzz during the ATI CCC 3D demo. Of course, I have to put my ear to within an inch or so of my keyboard to hear it...

So, I suppose a question is: are some people simply more sensitive to the noise (or have better hearing), or is it louder for some than others? Perhaps EVERYONE has it, but only some notice it?

I can say this: it's not there when I'm not stressing the GPU (even as little as the 3D demo, which I doubt is very stressful). And, when I _am_ stressing the GPU, I'm playing a game, meaning that there's sound that would mask the buzzing anyways...

So, perhaps someone with louder buzzing could record it and post a sample...
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post #25 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:19pm
It will actually be worse in certain cases.

If you run these physics demos it will sound louder.
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post #26 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by wynand32
It's funny. I just (after a month with my 8204) got into a quiet-enough room that I could hear the buzz during the ATI CCC 3D demo. Of course, I have to put my ear to within an inch or so of my keyboard to hear it...

So, I suppose a question is: are some people simply more sensitive to the noise (or have better hearing), or is it louder for some than others? Perhaps EVERYONE has it, but only some notice it?

I can say this: it's not there when I'm not stressing the GPU (even as little as the 3D demo, which I doubt is very stressful). And, when I _am_ stressing the GPU, I'm playing a game, meaning that there's sound that would mask the buzzing anyways...

So, perhaps someone with louder buzzing could record it and post a sample...
Well,

to be quite honest, mine one had a buzzing noise which you could hear with headphones on!!!!!! So it is not about user sensitivity I guess Anyway, if it is still there, I am not quite sure if all the products are defective then... but there was even a post somewhere to a MacBook with the same thing - and pretty loud...
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post #27 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by Falafel
It will actually be worse in certain cases.

If you run these physics demos it will sound louder.

So, do you think that every 8204 so far has it??
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post #28 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by 137
So, do you think that every 8204 so far has it??
I don't know. But we do have quite a few people on this forum that do have the buzzing noise.

My laptop was at Acer for almost 3 weeks and they were not able to fix the buzzing noise even with new parts from China. I got tired of waiting so I'm returning it for a refund.

What was annoying was that I was able to hear the buzzing noise even when I was dragging Windows Explorer windows around the desktop.
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post #29 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:34pm
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What I find interesting is that those demos (which I hadn't played before, and which do make the buzzing marginally louder for me; but still barely noticeable) aren't particularly graphics-intensive as far as I can tell. They definitely cause something to spike, because my fan comes on like a crazy thing, but that could just as well be the CPU doing the physics calculations.

So, my assumption was that the GPU was making the buzzing. Now I'm not so sure...
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post #30 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:38pm

Violations of law

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Originally Posted by Falafel
I don't know. But we do have quite a few people on this forum that do have the buzzing noise.

My laptop was at Acer for almost 3 weeks and they were not able to fix the buzzing noise even with new parts from China. I got tired of waiting so I'm returning it for a refund.

What was annoying was that I was able to hear the buzzing noise even when I was dragging Windows Explorer windows around the desktop.
Well,

that sounds pretty bad, but the worse thing is, that there is no competitor on the market...actually when I got mine equiped with this issue (I have owned for 30 minutes) I called ACER in Czech Republic and they told me it is a known issue and they are normally fixing it at their servce center. That is actually a violation of applicable laws!!!!!

According to the European laws, if somebody is selling a product which is defective and the distributor or producer is aware of it, it needs to be announced and sold for reasonably lower price!

BUT ACER REFUSED TO DO THIS AND CLAIMED THIS IS A PRODCEDURE - TO REPAIR BRAND NEW PRODUCT. They also never could repair my 8104. I am about to see the notebook I should buy tomorrow. I have talked to the distributor and will have the chance to unpack and test before the purchase.

But now I actually do not know if I want it or if there would be any alternative to this level of product....
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post #31 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by wynand32
What I find interesting is that those demos (which I hadn't played before, and which do make the buzzing marginally louder for me; but still barely noticeable) aren't particularly graphics-intensive as far as I can tell. They definitely cause something to spike, because my fan comes on like a crazy thing, but that could just as well be the CPU doing the physics calculations.

So, my assumption was that the GPU was making the buzzing. Now I'm not so sure...
We can only speculate it is related to the GPU. It could also be a faulty inverter, which is what the cause of the hissing noise in the MacBook Pro. Note the noise from the MacBook doesn't sound the same.

Acer PanAm told me I was the first one to call in about this problem. I have nothing bad to say about their support, their technicians just couldn't fix my laptop in an adequate time and I couldn't wait forever.

other than the buzzing noise, the laptop was pretty darn good.
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post #32 of 49
3/16/06 at 9:51pm
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Originally Posted by Falafel
We can only speculate it is related to the GPU. It could also be a faulty inverter, which is what the cause of the hissing noise in the MacBook Pro. Note the noise from the MacBook doesn't sound the same.

Acer PanAm told me I was the first one to call in about this problem. I have nothing bad to say about their support, their technicians just couldn't fix my laptop in an adequate time and I couldn't wait forever.

other than the buzzing noise, the laptop was pretty darn good.

So do you think it still is worth get involved in the 8204 purchase...?
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post #33 of 49
3/16/06 at 10:04pm
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Originally Posted by 137
So do you think it still is worth get involved in the 8204 purchase...?
Depends on your needs. There are no laptops with any specs close to the 8204. I can not find a 15.4" laptop with an adequate video card and in a 2 Ghz configuration.
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post #34 of 49
3/16/06 at 10:18pm
Thread Starter 
It seems like the percentage of people with buzzing that's loud enough to matter is relatively small. So, perhaps the chances of getting an acceptable system are pretty high. I'd say: give it another shot, but make sure you buy from somewhere that will take the system back if it's unacceptable to you.

I say this because this is the best performing system I've owned, in a form-factor that makes it a joy to use. I'd hate, personally, to have to give it up.
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post #35 of 49
3/17/06 at 12:31am
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Originally Posted by 137
Well, just out of curiosity. I mean, if it is an hardware issue, then you can not activate or deactivate it running some demo. The only intention was to find out if there are any notebooks without this buzzing stuff being distributed. Buyt of course I fully respect your decission. But let me ask, do you have the 3D settings tuned up to max? So when the little car appears, it does not buzz, right? Casuse that should be enough
I use my laptop for business applications and do not play any games on it. So to answer your question I have not changed the default settings it came with and to be honest I'm unfamiliar with much of the fine tweaking/over clocking, etc. that many on this forum like to do.

Ok I do have the buzzing - had to stick my ear down to the keyboard as the car video played and I hear it!
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post #36 of 49
3/17/06 at 12:35am
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Originally Posted by golfkwesi
I use my laptop for business applications and do not play any games on it. So to answer your question I have not changed the default settings it came with and to be honest I'm unfamiliar with much of the fine tweaking/over clocking, etc. that many on this forum like to do.

Ok I do have the buzzing - had to stick my ear down to the keyboard as the car video played and I hear it!
Oh, oki, is the buzzing sound intense? I mean to bother while working or if it lasts for longer time??
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post #37 of 49
3/17/06 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by 137
Oh, oki, is the buzzing sound intense? I mean to bother while working or if it lasts for longer time??
No it is not. This is the first and only time I have heard it.
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post #38 of 49
3/17/06 at 4:20am
Damn me if i can hear a sound from it
except for speakers and mouse clicking of course
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post #39 of 49
3/17/06 at 4:39am
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Originally Posted by 137
Oh, oki, is the buzzing sound intense? I mean to bother while working or if it lasts for longer time??
I have never heard (or noticed anyway) the buzzing while in normal use. The only time I hear it is if I decide to go looking for it using the tests on this thread.
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post #40 of 49
3/17/06 at 10:43am
I was finally able to hear it with the tokamak demos. But this is not something that I'd heard under my normal usage.
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