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A message from Alienware-Scott
post #2 of 56
1/23/04 at 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by Alienware-Scott
Be it in 4 days or 40 wouldnt you be happier getting it knowing your system is in tip top shape? Looking forward to your questions to help spread the word of Alienware. What other company would do this? Only Alienware
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Doesn't honest play any kind of role at alienware?
i mean ifit is gonna take 60 days, just tell us that... dont say 30 days and then ship it out in 60...all i want is honesty
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1/23/04 at 10:47pm
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1/23/04 at 10:55pm
Sorry I do not mean to be rude but I do not think it is a good idea to threaten a customer
If I were looking to buy a PC from Alienware and I read your thread I think I would change my mind. Just because your shop can not get pc's out in whatever time that you promised DOES NOT mean that quality should be compermised. If anything were to be left out it would be the supplier (alienware) that would be held responsible not the customer, because I am not the one that promised new systems will be shipping in 7 days! Please think next time you threaten us.
awacs
If I were looking to buy a PC from Alienware and I read your thread I think I would change my mind. Just because your shop can not get pc's out in whatever time that you promised DOES NOT mean that quality should be compermised. If anything were to be left out it would be the supplier (alienware) that would be held responsible not the customer, because I am not the one that promised new systems will be shipping in 7 days! Please think next time you threaten us.awacs
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1/23/04 at 11:00pm
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Sorry I do not mean to be rude but I do not think it is a good idea to threaten a customer
If I were looking to buy a PC from Alienware and I read your thread I think I would change my mind. Just because your shop can not get pc's out in whatever time that you promised DOES NOT mean that quality should be compermised. If anything were to be left out it would be the supplier (alienware) that would be held responsible not the customer, because I am not the one that promised new systems will be shipping in 7 days! Please think next time you threaten us.awacs |
honesty,t hats all ia s for.
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1/23/04 at 11:04pm
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Originally Posted by *******
Sorry I do not mean to be rude but I do not think it is a good idea to threaten a customer
If I were looking to buy a PC from Alienware and I read your thread I think I would change my mind. Just because your shop can not get pc's out in whatever time that you promised DOES NOT mean that quality should be compermised. If anything were to be left out it would be the supplier (alienware) that would be held responsible not the customer, because I am not the one that promised new systems will be shipping in 7 days! Please think next time you threaten us.awacs |
You want this steak cooked or bloody rare?

Scott and Juan are both from Tech Support which means kissing butt may not be a prerequisite. Most would agree that I would rather have them be open and candid with their comments in these forums as opposed to script driven vanilla corporate blah-blah.
Thank you Scott and Juan for being here.
The fact that another rep from Alienware has joined means that this forum is a big presence and needs to be reckoned with. Lets not drive away a valuable new member of this forum.
Thank you for your support!
Vote for me as your President - I should join that band wagon!
post #7 of 56
1/23/04 at 11:07pm
booga, I understand that but its not our fault (as the customer) that Alienware promised a shipment date and it is not met. Obviously some sort of compensation would be required after they missed their deadline, If I were to be at work and I missed a deadline I am at risk of loosing my job. For example with my alienware, It was promised in 7 days but it actually shipped some 18 days late. Yes it was worth the wait but you don't promise something that you cannot deliver on. Even worse it is sad that when you call Alienware they have no idea when your system is.. or even if it will ship. I was promised 3 dates that mine would ship... it did not, finally on the fourth it shipped. That is not a very good way to keep customers.
awacs
awacs
post #8 of 56
1/23/04 at 11:15pm
Hey Scott, as awacs said, I don't mean to be rude, but my issue is that my parts were sitting in a box for 3 weeks, and when I call for a status update being told to call back in a week wasn't very productive for me, nor your team.
If it's obvious you've got a lot of full boxes around, hire some more assembly technicians for a month and churn them out. If you're selling more, you can hire more, lots of companies do this during the christmas season.
Here are my suggestions to keeping your customers happy during times of turmoil:
1. If things are slow, let your client know. Keep an eye on how many systems are finished per day, inventory the number of systems that still need to be built and give a more accurate time line.
2. This is particularly my issue: If you're running out of a certain kind of hardware, take it off the list before systems get priced including that hardware, sell off the overstock to equipment shops at a small profit. You'll make a bit of money and make no false promises.
3. Don't tell a customer to call back! Assign a few people to updating particular customers that request it via e-mail, refer to #1 and keep them posted on timeline changes.
4. Stop changing policies! We've seen the shipping times change, dead pixel policy, among others. Those policies are a contract with the customer, I'm not just buying your case, the look, the processor, the ram. I'm buying the service, your policies, your customer support and your company. I haven't been very impressed so far, and I don't trust Alienware's word. I've been made several promises that have been broken so far, and I can only assume that you'll break more in the future. If you don't feel you can commit to something, just don't commit, but give me a reason at least (refer to #1).
Honestly, I'm a patient, understanding customer who know's what you're going through, and why it's so tough. The most important thing I tell the developers I over-see is that they can't leave me hanging. If they know there is a problem, that they can't meet a deadline or figure something out tell me as soon as they know, I can't help them meet a deadline if they tell me the day before a milestone. I can always allocate more resources or make arrangements to do something about it if they tell me as soon as they find out.
I chose Alienware initially because everything I read about you is that you're determinied to release a great product, with very high standards. But it's more than that, any monkey can build a PC (I can build one, I'm a monkey). But someone who can follow through with their promises and service will truely make a great impression on their customers.
Seriously, I'm on your side. I see alot of potential in alienware, I just can't abide by lies.
If it's obvious you've got a lot of full boxes around, hire some more assembly technicians for a month and churn them out. If you're selling more, you can hire more, lots of companies do this during the christmas season.
Here are my suggestions to keeping your customers happy during times of turmoil:
1. If things are slow, let your client know. Keep an eye on how many systems are finished per day, inventory the number of systems that still need to be built and give a more accurate time line.
2. This is particularly my issue: If you're running out of a certain kind of hardware, take it off the list before systems get priced including that hardware, sell off the overstock to equipment shops at a small profit. You'll make a bit of money and make no false promises.
3. Don't tell a customer to call back! Assign a few people to updating particular customers that request it via e-mail, refer to #1 and keep them posted on timeline changes.
4. Stop changing policies! We've seen the shipping times change, dead pixel policy, among others. Those policies are a contract with the customer, I'm not just buying your case, the look, the processor, the ram. I'm buying the service, your policies, your customer support and your company. I haven't been very impressed so far, and I don't trust Alienware's word. I've been made several promises that have been broken so far, and I can only assume that you'll break more in the future. If you don't feel you can commit to something, just don't commit, but give me a reason at least (refer to #1).
Honestly, I'm a patient, understanding customer who know's what you're going through, and why it's so tough. The most important thing I tell the developers I over-see is that they can't leave me hanging. If they know there is a problem, that they can't meet a deadline or figure something out tell me as soon as they know, I can't help them meet a deadline if they tell me the day before a milestone. I can always allocate more resources or make arrangements to do something about it if they tell me as soon as they find out.
I chose Alienware initially because everything I read about you is that you're determinied to release a great product, with very high standards. But it's more than that, any monkey can build a PC (I can build one, I'm a monkey). But someone who can follow through with their promises and service will truely make a great impression on their customers.
Seriously, I'm on your side. I see alot of potential in alienware, I just can't abide by lies.
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1/23/04 at 11:16pm
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booga, I understand that but its not our fault (as the customer) that Alienware promised a shipment date and it is not met. Obviously some sort of compensation would be required after they missed their deadline, If I were to be at work and I missed a deadline I am at risk of loosing my job. For example with my alienware, It was promised in 7 days but it actually shipped some 18 days late. Yes it was worth the wait but you don't promise something that you cannot deliver on. Even worse it is sad that when you call Alienware they have no idea when your system is.. or even if it will ship. I was promised 3 dates that mine would ship... it did not, finally on the fourth it shipped. That is not a very good way to keep customers.
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Juan has made it a point to address delivery time issues and he may be more geared towards something like that. Scott came forward and stated his reason here is to "answer questions/troubleshooting". Kinda suggests that he is Tech Support.
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1/23/04 at 11:38pm
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1/23/04 at 11:41pm
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1/23/04 at 11:48pm
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To me...it is a big step when a company that is as large as AW is willing to have its techs/reps answer questions on a 3rd party forum. To me this is unheard of. I appreciate the fact that AW is taking this extra step, so welcome to the boards Scott! I never once called or inquired on my Area-51m when it was in production and thank goodness (knocking on wood) my system runs beautifully with a few minor 3rd party problems (NBA Live does not like my ATI card or Adrenaline too much and my logitech dual analog is a POS). Having said all that, I do question sometimes the tactics that AW uses. For instance, I understand that you guys have a new Dead Pixel Policy...which is fine and somewhat understandable but should only apply to people who order after the day of the change. One of the deciding factors for me when I purchased the Area-51m and the 3 year warranty was the 0 dead pixel policy. I was assured by everyone at AW that you guys have a 0 Dead Pixel Policy and now you have changed your policy. This is not a good business practice. Ok make changes to your policy but how can it apply to those who bought under different circumstances. Just imagine you buy a car and get an extended warranty and then a few months into owning your car the manufacturer says that we won't cover any electircal problems...you would be furious and accuse them of breaching their contract and employing a bait and switch technique. It is things like this that have upset many. I hope this helps you better understand where some of the users here are coming from...


post #13 of 56
1/24/04 at 12:07am
Hey Scott. I got an actual question for you, no insults. I heard you guys were testing the 3.2 extreme processor in the 51m, any idea when it will be released? One more question, are you guys planning on switching over to the 865pe motherboards anytime soon like the Sager and Voodoo use?
Thanks
Yodaman
Thanks
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1/24/04 at 1:15am
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1/24/04 at 1:25am
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post #16 of 56
1/24/04 at 2:07am
Well, after being lied to by AlienWare cust reps. and being treated unprofessionaly, pardon my french but AW can kiss my 
Yes, the product is great, and so on. But their customer support is below acceptable level. I've been lied to for 5 weeks about my order and the only time I had nice experience with a rep was when they were taking my order. After that its been all lies. Nobody really cares why its taking them so long to prepare a unit, its their JOB to do it. If they can't do it properly might as well say so on the page and not put 15day preparation promises.
I apretiate AW cust reps coming to this forum, but i'm feeling negative vibe from Scott just from how he represented himself with that post.

I doubt he can be helpful to us in anyway either.


Yes, the product is great, and so on. But their customer support is below acceptable level. I've been lied to for 5 weeks about my order and the only time I had nice experience with a rep was when they were taking my order. After that its been all lies. Nobody really cares why its taking them so long to prepare a unit, its their JOB to do it. If they can't do it properly might as well say so on the page and not put 15day preparation promises.
I apretiate AW cust reps coming to this forum, but i'm feeling negative vibe from Scott just from how he represented himself with that post.

I doubt he can be helpful to us in anyway either.


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1/24/04 at 2:58am
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Well, after being lied to by AlienWare cust reps. and being treated unprofessionaly, pardon my french but AW can kiss my
![]() Yes, the product is great, and so on. But their customer support is below acceptable level. I've been lied to for 5 weeks about my order and the only time I had nice experience with a rep was when they were taking my order. After that its been all lies. Nobody really cares why its taking them so long to prepare a unit, its their JOB to do it. If they can't do it properly might as well say so on the page and not put 15day preparation promises. I apretiate AW cust reps coming to this forum, but i'm feeling negative vibe from Scott just from how he represented himself with that post. ![]() I doubt he can be helpful to us in anyway either. ![]() ![]() |
Follow up with your sales rep, he/she relies on numbers of sales and will do what they can to keep you happy.
post #18 of 56
1/24/04 at 3:24am
There's something about Scott's post that seems unprofessional. It gave some bad vibes. We have Alienware employees coming to this forum as representatives. I don't see why a professional would imply that poor service is given to those who have concerns about their $2000+ investments. Someone mentioned steak cooked or bloody rare. It seems from that post that if you complain it's taking too long, they will do more than give it to you rare. Seems like they'll jiggle it around in their pants and spit on it too.
I'm only a few days into my wait. I haven't called to check the status, nor will I. Alienware is a member of the BBB and has no outstanding complaints. It is a good business. As such, I have full faith in them.
I'm only a few days into my wait. I haven't called to check the status, nor will I. Alienware is a member of the BBB and has no outstanding complaints. It is a good business. As such, I have full faith in them.
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1/24/04 at 3:39am
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I agree, the tone of Scott's post was very abrasive and any potential customers would be pushed away with post like that. I can't believe that he is telling customers to not call and inquire about something they've purchased. Many of you think that Alienware is this big comany. Alienware is inside of a bay in an industrial park in southern Miami-Dade County. I know because I live here and have visited the place. The picture on the web is very deceptive because you don't see the other businesses on each side. As far as their Customer Service, Alienware probably employs a lot of young unprofessional people. Why do you think Dell, Netgear and others are outsourcing their Customer Service and Tech Support to India? It's cheap and the turnover is low. Alienware has a lot of people barely out of high-school on the payroll. You get what you pay for concerning employs. Even the VP that I met was rather young.
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1/24/04 at 6:21am
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Friendly suggestion to get some heat off of Scott.
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