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Uh, that wasn't supposed to happen!!!!!!!!!!

post #1 of 26
3/21/06 at 9:49pm
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Alright, the cpu came off when I was trying to remove the heatsink to re-apply some AS5... is this catastrophic?

Can I apply the AS5 and simply re-assemble and proceed as normal with boot-up?
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post #2 of 26
3/21/06 at 10:18pm
If it didn't bend or break any of the pins, I think it should be fine.
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post #3 of 26
3/21/06 at 10:35pm
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everything looks fine... the bracket is still functioning as it is supposed to

. . . here it goes!
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post #4 of 26
3/22/06 at 4:49pm
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oh, i forgot to update this thread.

Everything works fine now ~ especially a little cooler (and quieter) thanks to the AS5!
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Problem #2:
I got a little overzealous with Clockgen and bluescreened my 8890. Everything restarted fine, but for some reason upon restart, I got a warning saying that ATI control center couldn't find the driver the the vid. card and was therefore exiting.

So I go into Device Manager and sure enough, there is a yellow exclamation point icon next to my display adapter's name ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700. I proceed to update the driver and restart the computer, but upon restart the same thing happens again and windows is saying (again) that there is no driver for my display adapter.

Is there a reason the driver install is not taking with windows?

... I'll start from scratch and do a full uninstall of all the ATI components and then reinstall all the stuff from ATI and see if that does anything...
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post #5 of 26
3/22/06 at 5:35pm
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... dammit! ~ full un/re install of all ATI stuff didn't solve the problem.

I'm lost
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post #6 of 26
3/23/06 at 10:07am
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... niether did flashing the new BIOS v10...

should I just re-install windows and format the hd and start from scratch?
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post #7 of 26
3/23/06 at 10:15am
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looking in my 8890's BIOS, under the advanced tab, I have options for my graphics aperture to be 32,64,128, or 256MB ~ what does this mean... can I run this at 256 without any problems, and perhaps better performance ... what exactly does this do?
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post #8 of 26
3/23/06 at 10:39am
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this may help a little:

When I go to device manager, there's no graphics adapter listed! When I try to install the drivers from ATI, I get an error:

ATI Display Driver:
Error installing iKernel.exe: (0x10000)

> click OK and driver install cancels...

~ alright, I'm lost again

thanks for ANY and ALL help!!
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post #9 of 26
3/23/06 at 6:21pm
Hello again, I am sorry to see you hit such big snags. I am glad to see the update to version 10 of the BIOS went well and a brick was not made . First off you can find info on the AGP Aperture size at:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ing/vidcard/43

There are a lot of other sites that have info, a quick Google for “AGP Aperture” can yield many more. I have benchmarked my 8890 with 128 and 256 and there is no difference, I just keep it at 128 but you can try each setting and run a graphics benchmark program after each change to see how it affects your system.

As to the possibility of a fried video card and ruling out OS problem possibilities, you should start fresh with your OS. Format and start over, don’t do a repair or install over an existing install, format first (or when the OS asks, format). The latest ATI drivers support the 9600 Mobility out of the box so you can use those with confidence. If you want to experiment with official Sager drivers, download the latest from Sager (although they are old) just for the sake of experimentation. If this is a new hardware failure, nuking the OS and using fresh drivers should tell you quick. Wishing you the best of luck getting it going. Take Care, Andy
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post #10 of 26
3/23/06 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by ARW
Hello again, I am sorry to see you hit such big snags. I am glad to see the update to version 10 of the BIOS went well and a brick was not made . First off you can find info on the AGP Aperture size at:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ing/vidcard/43
There are a lot of other sites that have info, a quick Google for “AGP Aperture” can yield many more. I have benchmarked my 8890 with 128 and 256 and there is no difference, I just keep it at 128 but you can try each setting and run a graphics benchmark program after each change to see how it affects your system.
As to the possibility of a fried video card and ruling out OS problem possibilities, you should start fresh with your OS. Format and start over, don’t do a repair or install over an existing install, format first (or when the OS asks, format). The latest ATI drivers support the 9600 Mobility out of the box so you can use those with confidence. If you want to experiment with official Sager drivers, download the latest from Sager (although they are old) just for the sake of experimentation. If this is a new hardware failure, nuking the OS and using fresh drivers should tell you quick. Wishing you the best of luck getting it going. Take Care, Andy


I am going to just format and reinstall windows and then the latest from ATI. I format the HD just like a floppy right ~ ?

right click and format...follow prompts > shut down > boot from Windows CD...?
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post #11 of 26
3/23/06 at 7:55pm
Hello, it is during the actual install when you should format. Boot from your XP CD. After a few prompts you should get to where it asks you where you want to install the OS (and a few other options, it is clear). After picking the drive you should be presented with the formatting options. Unless you have problems with the drive, you can get away with doing a quick format (I always choose long format because I want to make sure the drive is healthy) but that is personal pref, and in your case I am sure you would like to get the OS up and running quick to see if you have a hardware failure on the video card (long format adds about 20 mins on to the process). Once done with the format, just have it continue on with the install. HTH!! Take care, Andy
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post #12 of 26
3/23/06 at 8:15pm
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thanks Andy!

reinstalling xp pro now!
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post #13 of 26
3/23/06 at 8:33pm
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alright ~ I have a delete partition option for drive C:

. . . is the install CD treating that the same as formatting? I went past this step last time without deleting the partition and got a warning that I'd be installing over and existing OS and it was not recommended without installing to another partition... ?

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post #14 of 26
3/23/06 at 9:00pm
Delet the partition, then choose the empty partition to install to and then it will ask you to format
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post #15 of 26
3/23/06 at 9:06pm
Hello, if you have 2 hard drives this is the area where you need caution (make sure you know what partitions you have and how they are labeled and sized). If you have a single drive, you can delete the partition with little caution as you will simply be creating and formatting a new one in the upcoming steps. If I am not mistaken (I have not done this in a year or so) there will be a small partition used by XP also on that drive (that one can be deleted too, it will just be recreated by XP during the install). I bring it up as it might be a point of confusion. Again, if you have a single drive with no custom partitions that you have created, just nuke away, you will always get the option to create new ones and continue on. HTH! Take Care,
Andy


Hehe I see we cross posted #14, you got it!
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post #16 of 26
3/23/06 at 9:11pm
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great ~ thanks fellas!!!
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post #17 of 26
3/23/06 at 9:51pm
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alright ~ deleted the partition and windows is installing as I type...

Thanks
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post #18 of 26
3/23/06 at 11:51pm
Too bad I didn't see this before. I was going to suggest DriverCleaner to clean up your ATi install. I haven't used it before, but have seen it praised many times here on the boards for cleaning out stubborn graphic driver installs.

Before deleting your partition, are you absolutely sure that you've got everything backed up that you want saved? If so, then you can delete the partition. Once that's done, you'll have to make a new one (generally one large one encompassing the whole drive; or you can make more- they'll show up as separate hard drives in My Computer). Then you'll select the one (or one of the ones) that you created as the location for your install.

Edit: Oops. Didn't realize that the thread'd refreshed while I was away from my desk. My bad! Glad you're on your way.
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post #19 of 26
3/24/06 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by FriedToast
Too bad I didn't see this before. I was going to suggest DriverCleaner to clean up your ATi install. I haven't used it before, but have seen it praised many times here on the boards for cleaning out stubborn graphic driver installs.

Before deleting your partition, are you absolutely sure that you've got everything backed up that you want saved? If so, then you can delete the partition. Once that's done, you'll have to make a new one (generally one large one encompassing the whole drive; or you can make more- they'll show up as separate hard drives in My Computer). Then you'll select the one (or one of the ones) that you created as the location for your install.

Edit: Oops. Didn't realize that the thread'd refreshed while I was away from my desk. My bad! Glad you're on your way.
I did try drivercleaner and didn't have any success which is wierd, but I'll definitely keep it in mind the next time something like this arises!

Thanks for the reminder ~ I backed everything up to my workstations' 250gb storage drive!

OS is back up and running and I'm just snagging all the drivers from the various cd's that came with my rig.

Video card drivers installed and everything seems to be working fine!!

Many thanks for all your help!

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post #20 of 26
3/24/06 at 11:03am
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maybe a silly question, but do I have to re-flash the new BIOS since the format and OS install?

also, does the new BIOS enable HT to be turned off?!

thanks!
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