HP's QuickPlay v2.0 - Page 24

...nevermind i found the answer myself

Will QP 2.0 work on an DV4000? I lost my DVDRW drive and Secondary IDE controller on this machine. Curious if QP may be getting in the way. I see QP 1.3 update only on HPs site.

If your DV4000 does not come with QP2.0 installed, the simple answer is "No". If you go back to earlier post in this thread, you'll find we've been trying to find a way to install QP2.0 in older DV4000 and still trying (I am not giving up on that yet). You may want to remove and re-install your DVD-RW. A similar case has been reported and was solved that way. Check here for the video guide showing you how to do that.

Dv6000

From reading over the past couple pages, It seems that all the problems are with the DV4000s... I have a DV6045... just formatted the hard drive before realizing that QP was even there ... I have now loaded a clean XP and left 300 MB of unallocated space because that is what I read on a few other fourms... should I be able to download that iso that was in three parts on the last page and just install it, or what?


Also, I'm not even sure what version of QP came on my PC to start with...

you mean remove from the laptop? I'm still trying to figure out how to do that, but how will it work if no Secondary Controller?

Info

Quickplay can in fact play back mpeg4 files in an avi container, ive been playing them ever since i got my dv1710 a few months ago, and yes i do mean the boot quickplay, not the xp program (Which is separate, made to look like the boot version).

Ive also played x264 files as well, i have not been able to play mp4 files or m4a, but i suspect that has more to do with the container than the format itself.

Im also not sure if the boot quickplay has its own codecs, or weather it querys the registry in the main xp installation for codecs. Im not a programmer but i have years of experience with linux, xp, component and circuit level hardware, and networking (cisco training).

Quickplay V2 uses an XP kernel because microsoft will not release the NTFS driver for use by others, and this is what is neccesary for you to play back files from your hard drive, while in the boot quickplay. Linux has a driver but its spotty at best and CANNOT write to ntfs without damaging it in most cases.

As far as the partitioning goes (which seems to be the important issue here), there are only a few common file systems used in linux and windows, ext2, ext3 (which is ext2 with journaling), fat12, fat16, fat32, cdfs, udf, and ntfs. Windows will still see all of those (Except udf) as a partition, not free space. UDF requires a separate driver to read in XP.

The rest are all readable, unless xp has been modified to block access to that partition (because it IS a partition, not free space), as someone noted, screwing with the MBR somehow could block windows access to the partition. My reasoning here is that a system with windows running on it still uses MSDOS partitioning, even linux does, so its quite likely that the file system itself is modified and needs a custom driver to read it.

Since the quickplay system seems to be custom coded its entirely possible that they have used a modified version of NTFS or another file system that is just out of spec enough that xp cant read it, note as well that the boot quickplay and the windows quickplay are distinct and separate, perhaps by neccesity.


What i will do is see if i can read the header for that part of the drive, and see if different operating systems can read that space (V2 partition at end of drive), i do know that Mac OS X cannot read it, i have yet to try reading it with linux, solaris or any *nix OS but i will try.

The major possibilities here are that the xp recovery version is blocking that area of the drive, that this area of the drive uses a common, but modified file system that xp doesnt have a driver to match (likely), and that any quickplay reinstallation disk will either include this modified file system driver, or it will operate by copying that part of the drive back bit by bit at a lower layer than the partitioning operates.

For now i will do a sector copy of those last bits of the hd so i can examine it, when you are restoring windows you should copy those sectors back first, this can be done with a linux live cd very easy. I will play around and see what i can find out. I do own a server with a 448k upstream but i dont have the bandwidth available to serve something like this (bandwidth is used atm for other critical services), but i can and will upload it somewhere when im done.


HP simply doesnt care enough to make this easy, they want you to not screw with things obviously, and the majority of users arent going to be installing osx or linux, theyre just happy to play theyre dvds and browse the web.

Welcome mrsteveman1 ,

You are on the right track, but I can tell you from experience that you are giving HP and MS too much credit. They have not done any recoding of file systems or drivers, just a simple byte change in the MBR. The QP partition, for example, is an NTFS partition which should be type '07', but they change it to a 'D7' so that your OS does not recognize it. When you boot QP Direct, the MBR code changes it to a type '07' and boots the XP Embedded code (WinPE) that resides there, and the next boot changes it back to a 'D7'.

If you want to see the partition, just get a partition/disk editor and boot from something other than your HD. (BartPE for example) Change the 'D7' in the partition table to a '07' and you should be able to see the NTFS partition just fine. Just don't boot from the HD or it WILL change it back regardless of whether you are trying to access QP.

I'm going from memory here, but I'm pretty sure that it is '07' and 'D7'.

Hi-
It took hours of reading these posts before I learned that to re-install QP2.1, I just needed to delete all partitions other than C: and then launch C:\swsetup\HPQPDP\setup.exe

Installed fine, but then when I add back a partition BEFORE C:, things blow up...

I have a 720MB DOS partition at the beginning of my hard drive which I deleted before reinsalling QP2.1 Everything works fine until after I recreate that 720MB DOS partition again - pressing DVD button after I added the DOS partition and powered off launched QP fine. Turning the power on to lauch XP kept taking me into QP too...

Powering off QP (by holding the power button down until it shuts off - which prevents QP from doing the "hibernating" thing - and then powering on results in Windows XP screen, then black screen, then a BSD:
STOP: c000021a {Fatal System Error}
The Session Manager Initialization system process teminated unexpectedly...



Can anyone help me figure out how to get past this?
With Regards-
Sam

It seems that QP 2.1 wants to ONLY boot from the first partition and sets the first partition as active no matter what...

A couple of problems you have created -

1) By adding a partion BEFORE C: makes that partition the new C:. XP will absolutely NOT boot correctly like this. The boot.ini for WinXP tells it which partition to boot from, and it should have resembled this:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

If you did what you said, then the WinXP partion just became partition(2)

2) The MBR (master boot record) that the QP install code loaded has hard coded ideas about what to boot, I don't recall everthing exact right now but I'm pretty sure that I posted the logic awhile back. In effect though, it does a reverse lookup through the partition table, so the first entry that looks like it "should" be bootable is used to boot. It does not look at extended partitions, so if you created any they are ignored.

Problems W/ QP 2.0

I have a Pavillion DV8210US, I installed WMC in it and had HP send me the drivers for it I recieved them today, They sent me the Recovery CD, Drivers and Programs DVD and the QP 2.0 CD I installed everything and the laptop is better than new now but I only have one problem, when the laptop is off I press the QP button and the laptops boots up all the way instead of going into the QP Menu...But when its already on and I press the QP button it launches the QP Menu...What gives????????? Anyway to fix that?? Thanks in advance..

Hi It seems I'm having the same problem As you. I have an HP Pavillion 8130us. It comes originally with QP 1.0. I followed all intructions (From Amiga Dude and others, BTW thanks!!) and got installed QP 2.0 (could not get it work in quickmode), and after downloading QP 2.1 I have installed 2.1 succesfully. But I can't get QP 2.1 to run from quick boot. I have applied latest bios rev. Current F42. I saw the history and says since F33 it has added support to QP 2.0. But I dont see how. Does any one found a solution for this?. AmigaDude says he can start QP pressing power and then any QuickPlay button but i cant get it work like that, even in 2.0. Maybe it can be a Bios bug.


- Another request: does someone has QP 2.1 for Windows installation files? I dowloaded the quick boot version (about 600 mb) but can't find the version for windows, i think has to be about 40 mb long.

Thanks and kind regards from Mexico!!

You probably need to search HP's site for a bios upgrade that supports QP2.x.


Quite possibly. What happens when your machine is off and you press a QP key? Does it look like it wants to boot QP - flash a QP logo and then seem to reboot and go into WinXP? Or, does it just boot straight to WinXP?

There is recent bios update, Its the F42, this uses the same bios as mine, mine is DV8130us. But I have Applied it nothing is solved. Well it solved a problem with QP 1.x, because if i pressed QP button, before this update' the machine entered to windows xp and no to QP q

Hi AmigaDude. When I Press QP button when my machine is off it wants to Boot QP, it shows QP Logo, but then after that the screen goes black and nothing happens. It stays there, like if nothing where installed, so i have to reboot it. I have already applied latest bios. if you check version F.33A notes (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...tem=ob-41900-1)
It says is has added QuickPlay 2.0 compatibility, but seems this doesnt work.

I dont' know if the position of the HP (QP) Partition has something to do. Maybe it really has to be at the start of the HardDrive instead at last (It has to be Partition0). My HDD is a Toshiba (curious thing LOL )100 HDD. Event that bios has added quickplay 2.0 compatility I also Have to add the registry key you specified, because it doesn't has it.

This is a very strange thing but i don't know if moving the partition could help.

BTW I have seen that the QP 2.0 and 2.1 CD has in its root folder some programs that i think are used to configure the MBR to load the parttion. rmbr.exe (console application) and mbrInst.exe (GUI application) have asked both its help by the '/?' param and found usefull features but could not have time to test them all. if some one has more ide about. The MBR.ini has useful properties to study like the 'ScanCode=133' value. MBR.INI is used with MBRInst, and i think the steup call it with the param '/ini MBR.ini'.

Asking again, doesn someone has the QuickPlay 2.1 version for windows?

Thanks

This is a good sign actually, given that it implies that the Bios is trying to boot the QP2 partition. That is the only time I've seen my machine actually hang with a black screen.

In my case, it was caused by the QP2 partion getting confused as to which partition it was. I wish I could be more specific, but I lost track of exactly what I did when. Anway, for me I needed to start over in a specific sequence to get it straight, something like this:

(Apologies to anyone who read this before I had my coffee, since I had the bad instructions)

1) Ensure at least 1 partition on drive = C: (create at most 2 more primary partitions leave 1.1GB at the end of the drive)
2) Install QP2 Direct code, which creates the ~1GB QP Partition
3) Immediately Boot machine, and it should go into QP and do some more setup
4) Machine Auto-Reboots after QP setup is complete
5) Shutdown
Now, it has at least 2 partitions and pressing the keys should work. After getting into QP at least once you should NOT create anymore partitions since it gets confused then. Otherwise, just delete the QP partition and rerun the setup code from Step-2.

Oh yes, for the technoGEEKS out there - The QP2.x partition is really an NTFS partition with a dummy code in the partition table, and boots into WinXP (WinPE actually). The MBR code installed with QP2 rewrites the MBR everytime you boot and when it expects to boot into QP it sets that as the Boot Partition and updates the code to that of a regular NTFS partition (07). Next boot, it switches it back so that you can boot into WinXP. Point being that the QP2 boot expects to be the primary partition (essentially the C: drive) and will not be happy if that is not the case.

How many partitions do you have in your primary disc? I only have one. Because my modleo comes with two HDD of 100GB each one. I don't know if this has something to do with it.

What is the software you use to Make a backup of your partition so you can restore it later?, Nothong Ghost? I was plannign to start over again And follow all the steps, but dont' want to spend two days installing and tnning up all my software.

regards

This has become more of a test machine for me than anything else, since I mainly use it for traveling. So, my number of partitions varies from one week to the next. Right now, I have 3 partitions:
C: = WinXP
D: = Music Files
?: = QuickPlay 2.1

I use Ghost 2003 (Dos version) for backing up the partitions, not any of the newer ones. No need to start over again, worst case should just be to delete the QP partition and reinstall. Hmm, 2 disks ... I'm not sure what they screwy QP install code and/or MBR code will do with that. Where is the QP partition being installed - on disk 1 (with WinXP) or disk 2?

originally it comes in Dik1 (Win XP) so i have left 1.1 GB of unpartitioned space.
the when I run QP 2.1 installtion it install it in Disk 1 at the end of the free unparitioned space. 1027 MB aprox.

I will try to install it without the seond disk, maybe also this can influence, i don't think so, but it could, all can happend

I need a link to download the QP2.0 installfiles so I can install them on the QP partision WITHOUT destoying my Vista install on the C drive. I only got some crappy recovery cd's I burned from the Pc itself. anyone up for the job? :P

ohh. what exactly is in the files in post 425 on page 15? are they what I need?