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post #1 of 23
2/12/03 at 2:47pm
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Installed Beta3 last night. The TVtuner, graphics, pcmcia, usb, firewire, sound all recognized. No errors whatsoever

I believe it saw the mp3 player too as a usb storage device. Was busy playing around to see if it accessible.


I selected the generic Radeon driver, got me 1280x1024 64bit color, 60Hz. Although black text seems to have some red/blue ghosting (you can see it in the screenshot) so I'm guessing the driver isn't the best. It's also a bit slow to refresh, When I dragged the TV window across the desktop I got artifacts, but it cleared them after a second.

Couldn't get the driver for the 9000 pro off ATI's site to install. First Mandrake told me Kpackage wasn't installed and when I went to find Kpackage on the Linux CD it wasn't there...hmmm. I tried the other software installer and it didn't seem to do anything either.

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post #2 of 23
2/12/03 at 2:56pm
Ummm, did ya read the Linux Drivers Installation Tips on ATI page ? They stipulate to 'force' the install. Do not use KPackage for it. Drop to a shell, su to root, and use the command they give you. That would work. But i believe MDK uses the latest unstable tree of the X server, so you can install the latest DRI which support the M9.

Weird, the antialiasing, as you stated, is a little off on your screenshot. Wonder what mdk use as a driver, their own ATI driver ? ..
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post #3 of 23
2/12/03 at 4:06pm

info ...

beakmyn,

Could you post the ouput of "lspci -v" as root in a terminal/shell/console ? You have a 8886 or a 8887 ? Cheers.
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post #4 of 23
2/12/03 at 5:40pm

triple boot

Any body try a triple boot?
Ive got win2k right now, want to install mandrake, suse, and on a linux distro, run winxp and freebsd on vmware. Ive dont the dual boot plenty, but not yet a triple. Any thoughts?
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post #5 of 23
2/12/03 at 7:14pm
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Ummm, did ya read the Linux Drivers Installation Tips on ATI page ? They stipulate to 'force' the install. Do not use KPackage for it.
Missed that part

lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev
11)
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at a0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [e4] #09 [a104]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 11
) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 128
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000dfff
Memory behind bridge: e0000000-efffffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 90000000-9fffffff

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) (prog-if 0
0 [UHCI])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e000 [size=32]

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) (prog-if 0
0 [UHCI])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e120 [size=32]

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) (prog-if 0
0 [UHCI])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e240 [size=32]

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 42) (prog-if 00 [No
rmal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000bfff
Memory behind bridge: d0000000-dfffffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 80000000-8fffffff

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Maste
r SecP PriP])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
I/O ports at <unassigned>
I/O ports at <unassigned>
I/O ports at <unassigned>
I/O ports at <unassigned>
I/O ports at 1100 [size=16]
Memory at 10000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio (rev 02
)
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8880
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e400 [size=256]
I/O ports at e600 [size=64]

00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Generic
])
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 1800
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
I/O ports at ea00 [size=128]

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon M
obility 9000] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8880
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
Memory at 90000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139
C+ (rev 10)
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8880
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 10
I/O ports at a400 [size=256]
Memory at d0008000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

02:02.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Contro
ller (PHY/Link) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8880
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 11
Memory at d0000800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Memory at d0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

02:04.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (
rev 11)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc AVerTV WDM Video Capture
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 11
Memory at 80000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

02:04.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11
)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc AVerTV WDM Audio Capture
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 11
Memory at 80001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

02:05.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 10
I/O ports at a000 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

02:05.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 11
I/O ports at a120 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

02:05.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) (prog-if 20 [EHC
I])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID): Unknown device 1234
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 10
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

02:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 PC card Cardbus Controller (re v 01)
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8880
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
Memory at 10001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=0
I/O window 0: 00000000-00000003
I/O window 1: 00000000-00000003
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

02:09.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 PC card Cardbus Controller (re v 01)
Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8880
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
Memory at 10002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=02, secondary=07, subordinate=0a, sec-latency=0
I/O window 0: 00000000-00000003
I/O window 1: 00000000-00000003
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
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post #6 of 23
2/12/03 at 7:37pm

Cheers....

breakmyn, thanks a lot, finally some real info.

From this output i still doubt about the sound. There is a weird thing in the adoption of the devices. Please someone enlighten me about :
- Why is the FireWire used is a Texas Inst. Chipset, where the ICH4 Intel southbridge of the mainboard support one firewire ?
-Similary for sound, which is my main concern as i don't own Firewire devices, is the Intel Integrated 5.1 sound chip of the ICH4 used, or as a lot of fabricants of our machines states, is it a ACL201/A Realtek chip, bypassing the sound of the ICH4 similary to the firewire situation ?

breakmyn, you said sound worked ? when ya type /sbin/lsmod as root, does it list an i810 module, or a via8xx one ? sorry pasting /sbin/lsmod ascertaining the sound work will be mint Thanks again.
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post #7 of 23
2/12/03 at 7:41pm

bpp...

By the way, breakmyn, i doubt you achived 1280x960 in 64 bit color, as 64 bit color is yet to be invented Ya meant 32 bits, 24 bpp
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post #8 of 23
2/12/03 at 9:47pm

Re: bpp...

Quote:
Originally posted by laclasse
By the way, breakmyn, i doubt you achived 1280x960 in 64 bit color, as 64 bit color is yet to be invented Ya meant 32 bits, 24 bpp
Uh... read:

http://www.pcvsconsole.com/news/news.php?nid=505

Cheers.
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post #9 of 23
2/13/03 at 12:20am
Ah, gnome i see. I like Gnome best, but most people seem to use KDE.

I don't know what's up with ATI and the whole driver issue; I know that nVidia tries to provide drivers for Linux.
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post #10 of 23
2/13/03 at 1:25am
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Originally posted by denkc
Ah, gnome i see. I like Gnome best, but most people seem to use KDE.

I don't know what's up with ATI and the whole driver issue; I know that nVidia tries to provide drivers for Linux.
I have no experience with ATI drivers under linux, but if my experience is any indicator, nVidia's drivers aren't so hot in linux. The dell's use them and god knows what trouble they bring.

Cheers.
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post #11 of 23
2/13/03 at 3:25am
Just for clarification...I thought mandrake 9 was the latest one out. what's all this talk about beta 3?
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post #12 of 23
2/13/03 at 8:26am
denkc, it is Mandrake 9.1 Beta 3 i believe.

Yale2006, 64 bit on DX9, but not on linux, XFree86 do not support that yet, will be implemented on 4.3.0 when its released. By the way, i have runned nVIDIA drivers on linux, and they are not a pain, they really perform. The detonator nVIDIA drivers project is now a joint venture, and the drivers for Windows, Linux and FreeBSD are being developped co jointly, and by the same team.

Ati drivers for linux are really performing, but are a little pain to install. Same as nVIDIA drivers for linux, they are closed source.

The good new comes from the latest Xserver which support the latest ATI cards. No more need to install ATI proprietary
drivers, as the DRI project has now full 3D support. Unfortunately, that involve a complete recompile of the X server, a quite long process.

I don't use either Gnome or KDE as i consider them too 'big' and bloated. I run blackbox, fluxbox and openbox Window Managers, not that eye candy but FAST and LIGHT Window Maker is nice too if you are an APPLE / NEXT fan...Make sure to try them as they come default nowadays on majority of distributions.

Here is my old Versa VXi Celeron 700 256 Ram laptop running fluxbox:
http://drakken.homeunix.org/shadow.p...s/alsa_seq.jpg
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post #13 of 23
2/13/03 at 9:11am
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Module Size Used by Not tainted
sr_mod 15064 0 (autoclean) (unused)
floppy 49212 0 (autoclean)
i810_audio 23720 0
ac97_codec 10024 0 [i810_audio]
nfsd 66800 0 (autoclean)
lockd 46864 0 (autoclean) [nfsd]
sunrpc 63324 0 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
af_packet 12968 1 (autoclean)
8139too 14824 1 (autoclean)
mii 2416 0 (autoclean) [8139too]
ohci1394 16488 0 (unused)
ieee1394 32396 0 [ohci1394]
nls_cp850 3580 1 (autoclean)
vfat 9580 1 (autoclean)
fat 31832 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
nls_iso8859-1 2844 2 (autoclean)
ntfs 72908 1 (autoclean)
sd_mod 11724 2 (autoclean)
ide-cd 30560 0
cdrom 26976 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
tuner 10208 1 (autoclean)
tvaudio 12732 0 (autoclean) (unused)
bttv 72736 0
i2c-algo-bit 7848 1 [bttv]
i2c-core 15176 0 [tuner tvaudio bttv i2c-algo-bit]
videodev 5760 2 [bttv]
soundcore 3652 0 [i810_audio bttv]
ide-scsi 9488 0
usb-storage 66776 1
scsi_mod 91028 4 [sr_mod sd_mod ide-scsi usb-storage]
ehci-hcd 16200 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 21772 0 (unused)
usbcore 58336 1 [usb-storage ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
rtc 6524 0 (autoclean)
ext3 59916 2
jbd 38972 2 [ext3]

btw, i tried shutting down last night it hung on shut down
If I logout first then shutdown from there everything is ok. though
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post #14 of 23
2/13/03 at 4:59pm

Cheers

breakmyn,

Thanks a lot man. Btw that is mdk ? whoaaa lots lots of modules. I am pretty sure you can half them. I let you know as soon as my 5660 is here.

Effectively, i am happy, cause i810_audio is there and confirms that the sound is effectively the ICH4 Southbridge, 5.1 able with spdif out.

Somenone should correct the www.sagernotebooks.com site that says it is an ACL201 Avance Logic ( Realtek now ) chip

On other grounds, are you using kdm, as KDE display manager ? I should think so, it is very buggy, and i was using it, stand alone, without KDE, and had to bin it cause it was just too buggy ( failed to shut down, failed to restart X etc ... ).
Try installing gdm ( gnome Display manager) xdm ( basic no features X display manager) or a nice unknown one, wdm ( Window Maker Display manager). Once you get deep into them, you will realise they are more or less based on the same code ( xdm ). Let me know how it goes...
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post #15 of 23
2/13/03 at 5:28pm

?any luck dual or CRT video?

Sager 86 notebook

I have had good luck with my Mandrake 9.1 beta3 install so far. The dual out put of video is not work, the notebook sceen is fine at 1280X1024 but the CRT output is 640X480. (It work fine in WinXP not that it mattters here)

I have had no luck with the ATI 2.5 linux drivers. I get though the .rpm install and run the config but Xwindows screen is all screwed up and then even the screen on the other term sessions are unusable.
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post #16 of 23
2/13/03 at 5:48pm

Ummm weird

I have crafted 4 different /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4) files :
-One for single display
-One for Dual Display extended desktop ( Dual screen, Xinerama )
-One for 2 Separate displays ( 2 monitors, running different users and different WM )
-One for TV out.

I can forward them to you, but realise that you first nedd somehow to make your drivers work. Follow the instructions point by point. I know it isn't easy.

One major tip, edit ya XF86Config file manually after using the fglrx_conf app provided, and Comment ( # at the start of the line ) the line stating PCI-BUS-ID blahhh in the Driver part. Save, and startx. To back trace successfull install, use fglrx_gears. If this work ya fine and dandy. Use glxinfo too, and look for a line saying: Direct Rendering enabled: Yes. Or do glxinfo | grep Rendering If NO, ya failed, start again

To all make sure that your are not "IN" X, while trying to installl the ATI driver package, that will help. Kill X, stop it, and install in console

On another matter, TV screen are usuallly limited to 640x400, the refresh rate is quite limited too. Apart if ya have one of this new smart TVs, i doubt you will get more. By the way i watch DivX on TV at 640x400 and it is great. Hope that help. Get these drivers working
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post #17 of 23
2/13/03 at 7:33pm
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Thanks a lot man. Btw that is mdk ? whoaaa lots lots of modules. I am pretty sure you can half them. I let you know as soon as my 5660 is here.
Thanks. I just let it do a default install. I'll be re-installing once all the bugs are worked out. I figure Beta 4 will be out soon anyway also. I'm no *nix expert I've done a little dabbling as one my clients uses Unix for their data historian so that helps., but I'll probably have questions later.
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post #18 of 23
2/14/03 at 6:57pm
Well, I finally threw my hands up with gentoo and redhat. It took me all of one lunch break to install Mandrake 9.1 b3 and get everything that I needed to work on my machine working! Even qt designer! YIPPIE!

So, as a new Mandrake user, what kinda stuff should I be on the lookout for?
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post #19 of 23
2/14/03 at 6:59pm
I am in the process of doing the same thing, but I am running into another roadblock with PCMCIA. Did your install detect the PCMCIA controller?
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post #20 of 23
2/14/03 at 7:10pm
Ididn't have the time to check during lunch dirtboy... I'll check this afternoon. I'm just happy that everything else got detected.

That's funny how both of us jumped ship from gentoo at the same time. Keep us posted dirtboy!
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