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post #61 of 622
I must admit to mixed feelings about the news. I love my Alienware, and the company has been good during the ordering process.

I must admit I have had many Dell computers (twenty or so that I am responsible for keeping running despite the ignorance of their users), and only twice have I had a hardware problem. Both were fixed to my satisfaction. Compare that to Gateway, where I have used one, and will never order from again. My Dell laptop is still running strong after eight years, and only a the inability to run the current version of several programs made me replace it. On the flipside, Dell support has been wanting. I usually use it to convince my boss that I am doing something constructive about a problem so that I can Google for a solution while I'm on hold.

If Dell leaves Alienware alone to function as a distinct business unit, Alienware should be able to function much as it always has, except with a better supply chain and marketing support. Or they can pillage the company and ruin Alienware. It is their choice to make. I see this as similar to how the big brewers have responded to microbrews. Miller tried to pass off their Plank Road Brewing as a small brewery, but micromanaged it and never gave the division a separate identity. So they never made a decent beer, just more Miller. Coors, on the other hand, created Blue Moon and staffed it with the more entrepreneurial members of their company, and gave them the freedom to make better beer. Which they have. In the same way, Dell tried to launch the XPS line for high-end users, but never gave them a life of their own. Purchasing Alienware is their second attempt at getting into this market, and if they have learned anything, Alienware should be left to function much as it has.

So I must remain cautiously optimistic. If Dell stays hands-off, we should see some improvements in Alienware lead times and maybe some cost breaks. If they take a hands-on approach, they may as well just slap a Dell logo on the thing and have it over with.
post #62 of 622
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Originally Posted by Yang88She
i think it's kinda funny now...

there was so much hate and seperation amongst the 2 groups...now they find out they're related...haha doh doh
you think that's bad, you should meet my in-laws. talk about two completely different factions.
post #63 of 622
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Originally Posted by CyberP
Very funny, I was running from dell and they still got me.

dude! we got a um...dell-alienware...good thing I own both haha

move over Dell mods haha
post #64 of 622
Dude ...... you cudda had a Dell ..... Hmmmm; how about Dude , you cudda had an AW ??? I was looking at Dells before I bought my AW. And to be honest .... I would do it again in a heartbeat ......
post #65 of 622
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Originally Posted by Yang88She
dude! we got a um...dell-alienware...good thing I own both haha

move over Dell mods haha
what R U talkin' about? You're a super-moderator. That's "Look out EVERYONE!"
post #66 of 622
@coffee,

As long as budgets are met and profitibility is there...the suits will back off. That's biz 101 and Dell knows it full well...they didn't buy AW b/c it bleeds red ink.

why are you out of your OT hole anyway...am I your whipping boy b/c Joe isnt around?
post #67 of 622
haha i'm s000per...

so when we going to combine the two forums together?

haha j/k j/k j/k
post #68 of 622
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
post #69 of 622
Dell is smart enough to not mess up the AW that you all know and love. You people who are cancelling your AW orders just because of where the stocks lie are just screwing yourselves in my opinion.
post #70 of 622
danwad has finally gotten his dream to come true...for me to have more time to spend w/ him all the rest of the dell-lienware buddies
post #71 of 622
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Originally Posted by DanFortH
what R U talkin' about? You're a super-moderator. That's "Look out EVERYONE!"

Dear Yang,

I'm tempted, but I won't

Re Dell acquiring Alienware - let's see what happens...like Craig said, it is possible the operating arrangements are specified in the contract for the deal.

But the most important question? Do we still get to keep the NBF Alienware section????
post #72 of 622
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Originally Posted by Craig
@coffee,

As long as budget are met and profitibility is there...the suits will back off. That's biz 101 and Dell knows it full well...they didn't buy AW b/c it bleeds red ink.

why are you out of your OT hole anyway...am I your whipping boy b/c Joe isnt around?
No, they bought AW because they know how to make a profit with double digit figures instead of percents of 1. I hope you're right about Dell backing off, but the acquisition suits don't always follow B101.

just wanted to see what the sun felt like. Joe isn't doing his job, i should've been dropped back in the hole already.

it's an interesting merger, i wanted to see what those involved thought about it.

<-----------------wants Michael Dell's face on his laptop with glowing eyes
post #73 of 622
All I want to hear is HH's take
post #74 of 622
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Originally Posted by shazza
Dear Yang,

I'm tempted, but I won't

Re Dell acquiring Alienware - let's see what happens...like Craig said, it is possible the operating arrangements are specified in the contract for the deal.

go ahead shazza I missed my spanking earlier today haha
post #75 of 622
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Originally Posted by Yang88She
go ahead shazza I missed my spanking earlier today haha
It wasn't the spanking I was thinking of
post #76 of 622
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Originally Posted by shazza
It wasn't the spanking I was thinking of

oh damn, looks like I'm not the only one that needs a spanking,

I have a new sig...w00t w00t
post #77 of 622
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Originally Posted by Yang88She
oh damn, looks like I'm not the only one that needs a spanking,

I have a new sig...w00t w00t
post #78 of 622
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Originally Posted by CoffeeShark
well crap, there goes my afternoon.

let's get back to reality, though.

craig, you know that the owning company in no way ever leaves a subordinate company to run it's own business. this is not random thinking, i've worked for companies that were acquired by larger companies, folded in, promised independence and soon imposing their will.

Working independently, maybe, but alienware must now act as part of a publicly-traded company and the pressure from Dell to do...well, to do whatever they want will be there. Whether it's a hardware decision, purchasing partner, pretending that Dell will be some beneficial giant that leaves AW alone is wishful thinking.

if Alienware heads think they will forever be able to make their own decisions on product without significant input from Dell On High, then they've never experienced an acquisition. It's all glory and sunshine and harmony for the first month, but when Dell gets over their excitement over making more than a 4% profit on a computer line, they'll start looking for places to cut costs and increase profits.

It's not a matter of what AW or Dell wants, it's a matter of bottom-line thinking that starts at the top of any large publicly owned company.
Interesting points. If Dell has this supposed contract obliging them to use Intel cpu's, and they now own Alienware, I wonder Alienware will be able to continue using both Intel and AMD cpu's.
post #79 of 622
oh man.... this is gonna be fun....
post #80 of 622
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Originally Posted by g00nter
Interesting points. If Dell has this supposed contract obliging them to use Intel cpu's, and they now own Alienware, I wonder Alienware will be able to continue using both Intel and AMD cpu's.
depends on the wording of the no compete Dell has with Intel...but seeing how Dell is already selling AMD processors ala carte, they've seemingly got an 'out' as it were to sell AMD products
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