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post #21 of 37
Oh. Nuts. Well I'm still workin on getting the Sager first anyway; I stopped using the crapped out Rio for a while and then when I tried using it again, it worked until I messed around with it. So yeah, user-fault, but I'd figure they built those things to be idiot proof, especially at 270 bucks.

I usually get bored of those gadgets, but I don't think I'll ever get bored of a Sager...not until about 7-10 years after I get it, anyway.
post #22 of 37
if you like hairy smelly women, goto france, if you like yellow teeth, goto england, if you like no rights whatsoever, goto bin laden, sure america is a power mongerer, but at least people have rights here, and arent disrespected for their sex. Im not meaning america is perfect, im well aware it has had its fair share of problems, and it still does have many. But bin laden, and saddaam deserve to be taken out, besides, we need a giant parking lot over there


....well crap....i read it all, and posted, but in that time like 4 others posted...uhh....GO ANTARTICA!!!
post #23 of 37
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Originally posted by denkc
Oh. Nuts. Well I'm still workin on getting the Sager first anyway; I stopped using the crapped out Rio for a while and then when I tried using it again, it worked until I messed around with it. So yeah, user-fault, but I'd figure they built those things to be idiot proof, especially at 270 bucks.

I usually get bored of those gadgets, but I don't think I'll ever get bored of a Sager...not until about 7-10 years after I get it, anyway.
Most gadgets do suck after a couple of uses, but with Music, it's not about the gadget itself usually. I mean, people just like to listen to music. That's why I've stuck to my little Muvo for a while. I got rid of the ol' Discman some time ago.

Cheers.
post #24 of 37

FIREWIRE

Unless it connects via FIREWIRE, it isn't a serious mp3 player.

And if you don't own one, you'll never know.

That's all I have to say.

-myrkat
(combat vet, desert storm I)
post #25 of 37

MP3 player

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Originally posted by ShaneStump
I have had a 20gb hard drive MP3 player since 2001 and I couldn't imagine life without it! I get 10 hour battery life and I have over 200+ CDs on it (and still have room for many more). It allows me to play whatever I want for whatever mood I am in!

Regards,

Shane

I've been looking for an MP3 player, what do you thing about this



ARCHOS JUKEBOX MULTIMEDIA 20 (CompacFlach,SmartMedia,Camera,DivX,Photos,USB2.0,20GB, soon MemoryStick), I know, VERY COOL !!!

It is MP3 player, USB2.0 ready, has Camera 1.5 MPixel, now has CompactFlash, SmartMedia and will have soon MemoryStick, can play DivX, has 20GB, and you can look some photos (JPG,BMP), has analog audio, digial audio, mic, vodeo out. I know it sounds too great, but please, tell me what do you think ?? i am seriously thinking to buy me one.
post #26 of 37
The Archos Jukebox had some limitations that made it unacceptable to me. I don't know if the newer Jukebox Multimedia is the same or not. I'd check before I bought one.

First, you really need to think about how you're going to use a 20gig MP3 player over the long haul. 99% of my usage of mine falls into one of these categories:

- (Most of the time) I just have it in Shuffle mode, where it plays randomly from all the MP3s on the hard drive.

- Choose a folder (either an artist or a particular album) and hit Play. The Neo then starts playing sequentially with the first song in the first subfolder and just keeps going from there. This is great for when I want to, for example, have a Pink Floyd-fest. Pink Floyd albums are not good on Random, so doing it this way, it'll play the first CD in order, then the next CD, etc.. THIS IS THE FEATURE THAT THE OLDER ARCHOS DIDN'T HAVE.

- Choose a folder and have the Neo dynamically build a play list of all tracks in all subfolders under that folder, then listen to just that playlist on Random. This is really handy when I want to listen to, for example, only Rock. I just pick the Rock folder and it builds a playlist on the fly of all my Rock tracks, then I can listen to them in sequential order, or in random order.

The Neo does all these things pretty well. The Archos used to only work where if you started it playing a particular track, it would play sequentially through that track and all the rest in the same folder and then stop. There was no way to have it automatically go to the next folder in the parent folder's directory, and keep playing there.

I think the iPod does all these things, too, but I haven't played with one enough to be sure. One thing that DOES suck about the iPod is that you don't get to control the folder structure. It does it automatically by Genre/Artist/Album, based on ID3 tags. Which means, if you don't happen to agree with the CDDB-chosen genre for a particular album, you have to manually edit the ID3 tags in all the tracks that were ripped from that CD and change them to what you want them to be.

Of course, it's the same problem if you want to define your own genre's based on what you like to listen to. For example, for me, I have a lot of Jazz. So instead of just having one big Jazz folder, I have Jazz (for instrumental stuff), Jazz Singers, Big Band, and Blues. They're all separate, so I can split my music up between them and be able to find specific songs more easily when I'm looking for them.

Oh, and something I don't do, but a friend does with his Neo, that some other players won't do worth a crap, is listen to books-on-tape. The Neo has the ability to resume playing from exactly where you left off, when you turn it back on. If you're listening to a book, you need to be able to do that. Some players will only let you resume from the beginning of the track you were listening to when you turned it off.

I use my MP3 player at my house, hooked to my home stereo, in my truck, hooked to the Aux In on my receiver, in my office, either with headphones or hooked to the stereo in my office, and on my motorcycle, with headphones inside my helmet. Having that small a device that holds EVERY CD I own, positively rocks! Get yourself one! But make sure it will actually do what you want to use it for.

- Stu
post #27 of 37

IPOD

they could make the opening fit an IPOD, In my opinion the best MP3 player out... Sure its mac, but im not trying to play games on it, and it works in windows :-)

although the little plastic flap on the ipod would get in the way :-(
post #28 of 37
StuartV666 very very interesting point, i really do not know if Multimedia 20 does it, but thak you so much.
post #29 of 37

Re: IPOD

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Originally posted by ayefly
they could make the opening fit an IPOD, In my opinion the best MP3 player out... Sure its mac, but im not trying to play games on it, and it works in windows :-)

although the little plastic flap on the ipod would get in the way :-(
I think the iPod battery craps out after a year.

Cheers.
post #30 of 37
Yeah the archos idea is pretty nice; I'd want to play some movies or something on a portable thing, but I don't think it'd have divx. I'd want to watch simpsons and futurama eps
post #31 of 37
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Originally posted by Yale2006
Harvard sucks, and Princeton doesn't matter. Take a wild guess, huh?
Since we seem to be all over the place in this thread anyway, I'd like to add my two cents and give a cheer for Stanford.

-Flip
post #32 of 37

Getting back to the USB 2.0 MP3 Player...

What is the average transfer time for this thing? Let's say moving a couple-hundred megabytes of mp3's...?

I have only used firewire to transfer tunes (usually in the 10,000+ songs range) and it's somewhat quick. I think the OS puts a slow-down on things when you have large volumes of files, because I can move a single multi-gig file just as fast as my internal IDE's...

I did recently get an external 2.5" USB 2.0 / Firewire combo drive from www.basoncomputers.com (have to call and ask, it's not shown on website). I tried the USB 2.0 and it was not even close to firewire.

I unplugged ALL my USB devices (both 2.0 and 1.1) and it improved performance a bit, but this drive's USB 2.0 seems to not be able to touch FireWire.

So I was wondering if 1) It was my enclosure (though the firewire port works like it should), or 2) Is USB 2.0 and it's "480mbps" really all hype?

Would be curious to hear what typical transfer times are like (don't need decimal-point seconds, just rough guesses).

Thanks,
-myrkat
post #33 of 37
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Originally posted by fliptomato
Since we seem to be all over the place in this thread anyway, I'd like to add my two cents and give a cheer for Stanford.

-Flip
Bah...humbug!

Just kidding...hehehe. I don't have a beef with most others, except of course, for those "two."

Cheers.
post #34 of 37

Re: Getting back to the USB 2.0 MP3 Player...

Quote:
Originally posted by myrkat
What is the average transfer time for this thing? Let's say moving a couple-hundred megabytes of mp3's...?

I have only used firewire to transfer tunes (usually in the 10,000+ songs range) and it's somewhat quick. I think the OS puts a slow-down on things when you have large volumes of files, because I can move a single multi-gig file just as fast as my internal IDE's...

I did recently get an external 2.5" USB 2.0 / Firewire combo drive from www.basoncomputers.com (have to call and ask, it's not shown on website). I tried the USB 2.0 and it was not even close to firewire.

I unplugged ALL my USB devices (both 2.0 and 1.1) and it improved performance a bit, but this drive's USB 2.0 seems to not be able to touch FireWire.

So I was wondering if 1) It was my enclosure (though the firewire port works like it should), or 2) Is USB 2.0 and it's "480mbps" really all hype?

Would be curious to hear what typical transfer times are like (don't need decimal-point seconds, just rough guesses).

Thanks,
-myrkat
What you got seems to be the usual. Recent articles have shown that indeed USB2 does not reach near Firewire levels. So your device is working fine.

Cheers.
post #35 of 37

Re: Re: Getting back to the USB 2.0 MP3 Player...

Quote:
Originally posted by Yale2006
What you got seems to be the usual. Recent articles have shown that indeed USB2 does not reach near Firewire levels. So your device is working fine.

Cheers.
Makes one wonder when the Class Action Lawsuits will begin to enrich some sleazy lawyers.

I do hope the USB2.0 "performance issues" come back and bites Intel in the arse.

Of course, maybe they were just waiting to embrace FireWire800! Can you imagine dragging several GIGs of mp3's and having an almost instantaneous copy/move?! If only the hard drives could keep up with 800mbps...

-myrkat
post #36 of 37

Re: Re: Re: Getting back to the USB 2.0 MP3 Player...

Quote:
Originally posted by myrkat
Makes one wonder when the Class Action Lawsuits will begin to enrich some sleazy lawyers.

I do hope the USB2.0 "performance issues" come back and bites Intel in the arse.

Of course, maybe they were just waiting to embrace FireWire800! Can you imagine dragging several GIGs of mp3's and having an almost instantaneous copy/move?! If only the hard drives could keep up with 800mbps...

-myrkat
Yeah... that'd certainly be nice. I for one am tired of all these "theoretical" limits.

Cheers.
post #37 of 37
Yeah, they should definitely be making it an "average" speed, but the potential speeds seem better anyway. It's kind of false advertising, as the USB 2.0 is 480mbps and the firewire is 400.

Actually, the 2.0 can be faster on some occasions. But yeah.
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