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post #41 of 61
4/4/06 at 8:00pm
well the kiddies are out today, but hooray for the 7900 go in the 9400. I am still gonna make an effort with the 7800 gtx in the 9400, still a faster and from the sounds of it, cheaper alternative despite the modding. now if we were talking 7900 gtx I might bite hehe. At least if I do run into problems with the gtx transplant I will have alternatives available
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post #42 of 61
4/4/06 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
The 7800 wasn't downclocked because of heat issue. It OC's at least 75mhz on both Core and Memory fine, with no heat issues.

The 6800 Go's were also downclocked. It also OC'd great. That's just how Dell does it.

I'm 98% positive the 7900 will be downclocked as well. I'll also bet it will OC at least 75mhz on core/mem fine.
While I do like my 7800... I am worried about the heat. How long will the gpu be able to withstand 82C temperatures for? I thought my old ati card reaching 68C was dangerous for the desktop card.
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post #43 of 61
4/4/06 at 8:58pm
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Originally Posted by zolutar
well the kiddies are out today, but hooray for the 7900 go in the 9400. I am still gonna make an effort with the 7800 gtx in the 9400, still a faster and from the sounds of it, cheaper alternative despite the modding. now if we were talking 7900 gtx I might bite hehe. At least if I do run into problems with the gtx transplant I will have alternatives available
Yeah, if you don't mind voiding your warranty, go for it man. I can't afford to do that though. I paid for a 3 year warranty, any modification and bye bye warranty.
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post #44 of 61
4/4/06 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by Weaser
While I do like my 7800... I am worried about the heat. How long will the gpu be able to withstand 82C temperatures for? I thought my old ati card reaching 68C was dangerous for the desktop card.
The threshold on the 7800Go is 93c and 7800GTX is 115c. I'm sure the 7900 series will be similar, if not the same.

82c is not an issue and won't harm a thing. The treshold is there for a reason. Even if it does reach the threshold, which I've never seen happen on a properly installed card, it just downlocks it automatically a bit to bring the temp down. nVidia GPUs aren't old skool AMD CPUs (k6 series), they're pretty durable.

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Originally Posted by Weaser
Yeah, if you don't mind voiding your warranty, go for it man. I can't afford to do that though. I paid for a 3 year warranty, any modification and bye bye warranty.
I've always thought anything beyond the initial warranty is a joke. I mean, if you plan on being that careless with computer equipment past a year (Dell's initial warranty), perhaps you shouldn't be purchasing a computer at all...
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post #45 of 61
4/4/06 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by Weaser
Yeah, if you don't mind voiding your warranty, go for it man. I can't afford to do that though. I paid for a 3 year warranty, any modification and bye bye warranty.
I will just say completecare rocks. if it breaks throw it off the balcony and no problems new lappy.
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post #46 of 61
4/4/06 at 10:38pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
The threshold on the 7800Go is 93c and 7800GTX is 115c. I'm sure the 7900 series will be similar, if not the same.

82c is not an issue and won't harm a thing. The treshold is there for a reason. Even if it does reach the threshold, which I've never seen happen on a properly installed card, it just downlocks it automatically a bit to bring the temp down. nVidia GPUs aren't old skool AMD CPUs (k6 series), they're pretty durable.


I've always thought anything beyond the initial warranty is a joke. I mean, if you plan on being that careless with computer equipment past a year (Dell's initial warranty), perhaps you shouldn't be purchasing a computer at all...
Actually that's when you become careless....the novelty is gonne...the notebook isnt so cool anymore...
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post #47 of 61
4/4/06 at 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by makemedie
I bought my laptop from NZ. The price for the upgrade to 7800GO was $200 so that's about $130US. So now I'm gonna be paying what $630? Oh yay, big deal, incase you havent noticed my specs I spec'd up my 9400, I dont care about the money.

Atleast I wont get a card that had to be removed from production line because of problems in it.
huh problems? let's get into the details shall we?
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post #48 of 61
4/4/06 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
The threshold on the 7800Go is 93c and 7800GTX is 115c. I'm sure the 7900 series will be similar, if not the same.

82c is not an issue and won't harm a thing. The treshold is there for a reason. Even if it does reach the threshold, which I've never seen happen on a properly installed card, it just downlocks it automatically a bit to bring the temp down. nVidia GPUs aren't old skool AMD CPUs (k6 series), they're pretty durable.


I've always thought anything beyond the initial warranty is a joke. I mean, if you plan on being that careless with computer equipment past a year (Dell's initial warranty), perhaps you shouldn't be purchasing a computer at all...
Normally with desktops I don't really care, but dropping a lot of money on a laptop and then a year or so down the roading having your memory crap out on you, or video card frying, and it's going to cost a lot of money. Especially when it comes to optical drives.. they can crap out after a year or two. This is why I don't mind overlocking my gpu now... if it frys, no biggy, I just tell them it wasn't overlocked and they have to replace it. Same with the screen. I've heard horror stories about displays just stop working for no reason. With desktops it's easy to just replace, but laptops aren't as easily fixable. Plus the warranty wasn't all that expensive anyways.
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post #49 of 61
4/4/06 at 11:55pm
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Originally Posted by SirBA
huh problems? let's get into the details shall we?
do a search, theres a few threads on it. for the most part, there are performance /cooling issues as well as potential pixelation/artifacts during DVD playback. Not everyone seems to have been affected. but there seemed to be an unusal amount of people for Nvidia to suspiciously pull the card. Compile this with Nvidia's inability to supply video cards to the market, suggests to me they are having issues with their switch to 90nm format.
I had ordered the 9400 with the 7800 go on mar 1, after 2 weeks of waiting I was told the card has run end of life and a revised card would be avaialble sometime mid-may. I had to either switch to the x1400 or cancel my order.
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post #50 of 61
4/5/06 at 12:00am
well not everyone is affected that's for sure, i have been using my lappy for almost 2 months now and it play games superbly, and DVD playback is great(i don't really watch DVDs on it but rarely)
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post #51 of 61
4/5/06 at 1:18am
I'm waiting on the 1710
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post #52 of 61
4/5/06 at 1:21am
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Originally Posted by Agentofthenorth
the 7800 is a very good card, I have not problems with it, but I can get the 7900 for free in about a week or two as a replacement, so I will jump on that. My rep also told me I could get the XPS as replacement but I said that I will wait for the 7900




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Originally Posted by pwain
hows that? Is it part of complete care or do you just know the right people?

I have no probs with my 7800, but a free upgrade is always cool in my book.
???? wanna fill us in?
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post #53 of 61
4/5/06 at 2:00am
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Originally Posted by zolutar
do a search, theres a few threads on it. for the most part, there are performance /cooling issues as well as potential pixelation/artifacts during DVD playback. Not everyone seems to have been affected. but there seemed to be an unusal amount of people for Nvidia to suspiciously pull the card. Compile this with Nvidia's inability to supply video cards to the market, suggests to me they are having issues with their switch to 90nm format.
I had ordered the 9400 with the 7800 go on mar 1, after 2 weeks of waiting I was told the card has run end of life and a revised card would be avaialble sometime mid-may. I had to either switch to the x1400 or cancel my order.
There are always bad batches of every product. What happens is the folks who get the bad products create the biggest deal out of it and raise the biggest fuss. The other 99% of us who have the product, don't bother saying anything because ours is working fine
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post #54 of 61
4/5/06 at 7:25am

Free upgrade to 7900 Go ?

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Originally Posted by Agentofthenorth
the 7800 is a very good card, I have not problems with it, but I can get the 7900 for free in about a week or two as a replacement, so I will jump on that. My rep also told me I could get the XPS as replacement but I said that I will wait for the 7900
How are you getting that please?

I have Complete Care Premium, so can I get one too?

thanks

Philip
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post #55 of 61
4/5/06 at 9:46am
I'm sorry .. I am one to like my high end toys ... but I would NEVER drop $500 for a simple vid card for a machine that has a very fixed upgrade path..

Then Again, i won't pay $500 for a desktop card either, I wait a few months, or buy the lower end one .. and things run JUST as well. The industry is moving too fast to spend too much on a card that is the low end of performance some few months later.

Maybe I am just envious of people that can drop $500 on TOP of the laptop cost just to get a better video card...
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post #56 of 61
4/5/06 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
I've always thought anything beyond the initial warranty is a joke. I mean, if you plan on being that careless with computer equipment past a year (Dell's initial warranty), perhaps you shouldn't be purchasing a computer at all...
Well, my upgraded warranty has already more than paid for itself... I got a 4 year complete care on my I8600 which is about 2 years 4 months old now, and so far I've gotten my WUXGA screen replaced, my 9 cell battery replaced, and my 4x DVD+R burner replaced with an 8x DVD+/- RW DL drive.

The warranty (vs a 1 year ship it back) cost me approximately $150 (EPP, it changed my % back and my MIRs). And I have gotten $229 (dvd burner dell list price) $149 (battery dell list price) and $400 (lcd quick froogle)

By the way, only the battery of all the above died in the first year. Nothing about the system has been abused (in fact I pamper the thing).

So anyway, the extended warranty has certainly paid off for me. The only reason I'd get a dell laptop and not get an extended complete care warranty would be if I were so rich I were planning to throw away the laptop after less than a year. I doubt I'd ever do that, since there would always be someone looking to get an upgrade.... (friend or whatever) and if I were so rich as to be replacing it, I might as well get the waranty too, since it's only money
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post #57 of 61
4/6/06 at 1:26am
Why go for a 7900go? Just wait a bit longer, let the price settle, and go for a 7900gtx!! That way, people will have greater satisfaction with gaming performances and better value. Your patients will pay off. good luck
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post #58 of 61
4/7/06 at 1:36am
any one got an idea of what the 7900go's specs are?
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post #59 of 61
4/7/06 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by feiyue
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportfor...sage.id=148024

By MrFaust:
My father bought an E1705 last week. Unfortunately it came with the ATI X1400 video card and we have been LESS THAN THRILLED with it's performance. I've read where lots of people have been disabling once of the CPU cores in the bios to get performance. My point is, if I wanted to disable a core, i would have bought a single-core cpu laptop. Well Dad just got off the phone with Dell. It appears that they now have some GeForce Go 7900 cards, but not many. They expect more next week. These cards are expected to be $500+ US. The lady he spoke with said that this card does work fine with the E1705 and that not only is it faster than the 7800 it also fixes some of the issues that were found with the Go 7800 as well. We are supposed to get a call back next week when they come avalible for purchase. I think they have the bios and drivers ready for this as well. Atleast early drivers. Will post updates when we get the card and see what kind of performance increase we get.
It would be interesting to see the list of issues the 7800 has to have so those of us interested in using the I have "this " problem to leverage getting a warrantee upgrade maybe? =)
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post #60 of 61
4/7/06 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Communist
Why go for a 7900go? Just wait a bit longer, let the price settle, and go for a 7900gtx!! That way, people will have greater satisfaction with gaming performances and better value. Your patients will pay off. good luck

Why should a communist be worried about prices ?

Come to the UK and join the Labour Party !

All comers welcome, pikeys, chavs, scum of all description. Free council housing, benefits galore.

Don't make the mistake of taking a job though

Then you have to pay for everything

Dougie.
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