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Apple: XP on a Mac is here

post #1 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:27am
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Apple: XP on a Mac is here
just in Apple Computer announced on Wednesday that it has released a public beta version of Boot Camp, software that allows Windows XP to run natively on Intel-based Macs.

Boot Camp, which will be included in Mac's OS X "Leopard," will be previewed at in August at Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference, but is available for immediate download at on Apple's website.

"Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple's superior hardware now that we use Intel processors. We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to Windows users considering making the switch," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing in a statement.

After installation of Boot Camp is complete, Intel-based Mac users can regularly choose between running Mac OS or Windows XP each time they restart their system.

http://news.com.com/Apple+XP+on+a+Ma...l?tag=nefd.top
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post #2 of 42
4/5/06 at 11:07am
Holy crap, John Dvorak was right...
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post #3 of 42
4/5/06 at 11:22am
Not quite. He projected that Apple would go to the inferior operating system full time. I don't think it was ever too much of a stretch to think that Apple would come up with a dual boot solution. The ability to dual boot with support would sell them more computers and be one hell of a trojan horse of OSX. The downside is that it only supports SP2 home or pro. No MCE, SP1 or original versions of XP allowed.
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post #4 of 42
4/5/06 at 11:32am
So this implies gaming on a Mac will no longer be a problem, as in there will be no difference between running games off windows booted on a mac... and windows booted on a normal pc?
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post #5 of 42
4/5/06 at 11:32am
Some "gotchas" on the MBP:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303575

Official download site:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

No support for:
iSight cameras
Apple remote
Apple USB modem
Keyboard backlighting on Macbook Pro laptops
Windows Media Center edition (Home or Pro only)

Regardless, YAY! No more dual machines!
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post #6 of 42
4/5/06 at 11:48am
Me want now please.
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post #7 of 42
4/5/06 at 1:09pm
XP (run NATIVELY)
2.0GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 Cache
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory


Nice gaming machine.
And OS X for everything else.

I wish Macs had higher resolutions.

If this was out 8 months ago, my wife might have ended up with at 12-inch powerbook.
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post #8 of 42
4/5/06 at 1:42pm
If this was out 8 months ago, my wife might have ended up with at 12-inch powerbook.

Yeah but Boot Camp only works on the IntelMacs.
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post #9 of 42
4/5/06 at 1:47pm
Hehe, trust me, if you see the screen in person, you'll say "wow, that is a beautiful screen" and then proceed to drool on your chin Okay, that is an exaggeration, but I find the resolution to be quite comfortable hehe. When i dim the backlight on screens with higher resolutions, they tend to get hard to read and pick out small details. I am aware that many people appreciate that much extra screen real estate, so this is just my humble opinion.

Also, as of yet, I believe there is no 12" Intel Macbook Pro Sigh, portability is so underrated these days it seems...
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post #10 of 42
4/5/06 at 9:10pm

Just saw it

Here in my office we actually just got one of the powerbooks up and running with the duel boot options. I must say it is really a beautiful thing. And it was not all that tough either. (or at least it seemed, the student assistant did all the work hehe)

Makes me have to rethink my next laptop purchase.

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post #11 of 42
4/5/06 at 9:14pm
Exiled, is the X1600 fully supported? I mean, with full performance?
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post #12 of 42
4/5/06 at 9:24pm

Performance

From what we could tell it seems to be fully supported and running wonderfuly. After you install all the drivers (which are availible from Apple) it ran amazing in windows. It even has proper video drivers. I was very impressed. We have not benchmarked it yet, that is our next plan.

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post #13 of 42
4/5/06 at 9:57pm
Very nice. Thanks for the info! I'm in the process of deciding whether or not to return my Acer 8204 and get the MacBrook instead, and graphics performance is a big determinator...
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post #14 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by exiledchild
From what we could tell it seems to be fully supported and running wonderfuly. After you install all the drivers (which are availible from Apple) it ran amazing in windows. It even has proper video drivers. I was very impressed. We have not benchmarked it yet, that is our next plan.

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Exiled, please try to run 3DMark 05 on it. Given that the Macbook Pro has the same videocard as the Acer TravelMate 8204, you should be getting about 4200 marks, at least according to this page:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2783
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post #15 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:15pm

Benchmark

I will try and get 3d Mark 05 run on it tommarow and see what kind of numbers we get from it.

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post #16 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:19pm
Interested to see your results, exiled.

In the words of a great movie:
Maverick: "I'm in!"
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post #17 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:22pm
3dmark scores will be quite interesting.... I may just come back to the apple tree yet...

--K1tty
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post #18 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:31pm
so they finally made an official partitioner and bootloader to get windows running. interesting.

i can finally admit that apple has 1 thing up on PCs:
it can natively run all 3 major OSes (Mac,Win,Lin) with pretty much full support. i think this is important for people who share files and work with many people on different platforms, this insures you 100% compatibility accross the board.
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post #19 of 42
4/5/06 at 10:52pm
WOW this has got me to stop lurking and register on notebook forums.

First of all let me tell you that everyone on this board is amazing and provides lots of useful information.

I have been looking for a notebook for college for a long time to start with in Fall of 2006. I am going to be an architect major and autocad doesnt run on macs so this is very good news for me.

Looking at the latitudes i wasnt impressed by the video cards, then I was set on getting an alienware as they have a nice powered 15" , but they werent metal, even though other companies like asus and others also have good laptops, but i guess im a brand name type of person when it comes to warranties and reliable laptops(regarding heat)[but what i have experienced going to see laptops in person is that heat mainly isnt the manufacturer but the hardware, so im kinda discriminating against the other laptops].

I am so thrilled i can play games and run autocad while still using the mac for apple aperture (when they make a universal version for intel chips) and the simplicity of a mac.

question: boot camp allows a dual boot to happen right? so that means that u have to repartition the HD??

*edit*= is there an email where i can send apple a thankyou note :-P
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post #20 of 42
4/5/06 at 11:00pm

Partitions

I was surprised to find out that we could actually run the install on a pre partitioned and installed version of Mac OSX. We did not have to start over with the Mac side of the laptop at all.

I have copied the 3DMark 05 software onto a disc and left it for the tech working on this project to play with in the morning so we can all se what kind of marks it will get. I was going to try and test it myself tonight but I did not get back to the main office before the other techs left. (i am the anti-social night worker hehe)

As a side note, we all got a kick out of the boot screen on the Mac since it had that nice fun Mac look with 2 pictures of hard drives and you choose the OS you want from that screen. It was nothing special but it definitly was a nice touch compared to the DOS looking windows boot options screen.

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