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post #1 of 31
4/5/06 at 11:31am
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I just got a Lenovo 3000 C100, def not top of the line, but it works for me. I'm running XP Pro, but want to set up a virtual machine to run linux, cause I like to screw around in it. Any suggestions for a virtualization workstation? Thanks.
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post #2 of 31
4/5/06 at 12:03pm
vmware
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post #3 of 31
4/5/06 at 12:16pm
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...05pricing.mspx
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post #4 of 31
4/5/06 at 12:35pm
The VMware Player is free and on VMware's site there are several different Linux distributions you can try.
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post #5 of 31
4/5/06 at 1:00pm
VMWare is still the best available ATM.
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post #6 of 31
4/5/06 at 5:09pm
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vmware is the general repsonse I'm getting...anybody have experience w/ Parallels? I've heard some rumble about it on other boards? www.parallels.com
to check it out.
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post #7 of 31
4/5/06 at 8:22pm
i have tried every virtual software and the best 2 are vmware and Xen
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post #8 of 31
4/10/06 at 11:02am
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what makes vmware and xen the best? isn't xen like open source or something? do you have to have a lot of experience to use something like that? i just want whatever is going to be the easiest and and most user-friendly.
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post #9 of 31
4/10/06 at 9:32pm
how about actually dual booting?
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post #10 of 31
4/18/06 at 11:57am
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well, I guess dual booting is a possibility, but it seems so tedious compared to virtualization. all this hype about parallels because of their software for the macs is making me feel like i should try their workstation for windows.
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post #11 of 31
4/19/06 at 4:05am
I have an Acer 5672 with dual core. Installed parallels and installed Fedora Core 5. Works nicely. On my work machine I have VMWare. The interface and feel of the Parallels virtualization software is very similar to the VMWare. Parallels costs $50 while VMWare costs $200. According to the latest benchmarks of a Mac running Windows under parallels VM vs. Mac Boot camp Windows (i.e. native Windows install) at anand's, the paralells virtualization software basically shows no slowdown vs. native windows install. And as the technology behind the virtualization is the same for all core duo platforms (as mine core duo Acer), I assume the performance profile of the paralells VT software is the same on mine machine. It would be interesting to run some benchmarks Parallels vs VMWare but it would take time.
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post #12 of 31
4/19/06 at 6:19am
Interesting info. Thanks
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post #13 of 31
4/19/06 at 9:52am
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Glad to hear that you're happy w/ Parallels, cause I don't really want to spend $200 on vmware, rather spend $50, but I was a little uncertain about parallels. thought I might sacrifice performance.
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post #14 of 31
4/20/06 at 11:48am
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another question? are you only running 1 guest OS, or have you been able to run multiple VMs at the same time?
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post #15 of 31
4/21/06 at 4:23am

yes

I managed to run simultaneously Windows install under parallels together with Linux install under parallels. Linux and Windows recognized the CPU as a single core (not dual). The Sisoft sandra CPU arithmetic test under windows running in a VM confirmed this - only one CPU recognized. The result though was showing no slow down from what you expect of a single core running under natively installed windows.

BTW both VMWare and parallels have try out versions so you can test them and see for yourself.

P.S.
Both VMWare and Parallels do not provide full access to the graphics hardware. Both provide basic 2D interface only. So in the end, if you want a full blown installation of Linux with native graphics card drivers and full CPU power (dual core) it is better to make a native Linux installation with dual booting to native windows.
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post #16 of 31
4/25/06 at 10:31am
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So there was no lag when you ran linux and windows side by side? And if I don't need the full graphic support in Linux you'd say Parallels is the way to go?
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post #17 of 31
4/26/06 at 4:06pm
I think parallels will do the job as well as VMWare. So for me, the price - $50 vs. $200 (for VMWare) sealed the deal.
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post #18 of 31
4/28/06 at 9:53am
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yeah, I agree on the price aspect. why do you think VMware is so much more expensive? is it actually better, or do they just think they can get more money because of the name recognition?
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post #19 of 31
4/28/06 at 10:56am
I am just double checking on this...

You can network the virtualized machine in parallels to the regular OS correct?

Looking at getting a Mac Mini, running Linux on a virtual machine for the Myth Backend and running the frontend on the Mac OS, course I may decide later to just do everything in Linux, havent decided fully yet.

Seablade
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post #20 of 31
4/28/06 at 12:44pm
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from what I've read, I know you can network the machines in the windows and linux versions, and I think in the mac version there is actually a share folder feature so you don't have to network them. does this answer your question?
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