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post #41 of 255
4/9/06 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by anettis
I have 9 items that connect to my notebook: an external keyboard, mouse, printer, scanner, speakers, external hard drive, USB hard drive, camera, and power cable. However I only have to connect three cables - power, USB, and speaker. And the speaker wire could get dropped in favor of a USB sound card if one really wanted to do so. Belkin makes a great 7 port USB-2 hub.
yep, believe me I'm taking advantage of hubs where I can/where appropriate.

that's why I made a point of referring to "TEN connections" rather than "items". I have way more than ten items connected to my poor belabored system (it's long due for retirement to some lighter duty, but I'm waiting for a viable replacement... one requirement being a true docking solution, like my current laptop uses).
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post #42 of 255
4/9/06 at 6:47pm
I like my Bafo 7 port USB hub, it looks nice and yea, like you guys said, so much easier to have only one USB connection to make. Though I run my usb sound card as a seperate connection jsut becuase I found it's a little less suceptible to lack of bandwidth then. It's an ancient Sound blaster Extigy, USB 1.1 but hey it drives my Gigaworks S700's fine in everything except games where there's rapidly repeated sounds (machine gun fire) then it goes in and out due to the lack of bandwidth. It's a pity firewire's not on more docks jsut because the 4 pin connectors are much harder to connect that the 6pin.

One of the things putting me off getting an external monitor is the reconnect everytime I move it. It would be nice if I could upgrade to the M1710(or later revision) in a year or so and pick up a docking station for it.
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post #43 of 255
4/9/06 at 7:16pm
Maybe this would push some folks to the M90. I'd guess that the M90 if they had a 7900 option would let people choose the docking station option in the simplest way yes? (less than developing a 1720 )

On similar note, anyone want to hazard a guess if the 7900 Go will be dual link and thus capable of driving the 30" lcd? Ok maybe that's kinda crazy. Should just stick to the 2407...

/sigh
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post #44 of 255
4/9/06 at 7:29pm
For people who have mentioned BIOS-hacking the Quadro chip in the M90 to a 7900 GTX - it makes little difference really. The Quadro chip does not perform much slower than a Geforce for the same clock speed - the extra Quadro features do not slow it down. Any difference in performance can be attributed to the fact that Quadro cards are generally clocked a little lower than their Geforce equivalents (presumably for increased stability). Simply over-clocking the M90's Quadro to the same level as the Geforce 7900 GTX should result in the same performance.
I have heard that Quadro drivers may result in higher image quality and this may slow things down a little - although I imagine you could just change the image quality settings in the NVIDIA control panel.
Anyway, the point is that any performance difference would be so small as to be unnoticeable - I mean, there is no reason not to buy the M90 if it has some feature that the new XPS does not have.
Although I do not have a current generation Quadro, I used to have a Quadro4 and I found that my computer's benchmark scores were identical to those of others with the same system but a Geforce-equivalent graphics card.
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post #45 of 255
4/9/06 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by tentonine
Anyway, the point is that any performance difference would be so small as to be unnoticeable - I mean, there is no reason not to buy the M90 if it has some feature that the new XPS does not have.
Although I do not have a current generation Quadro, I used to have a Quadro4 and I found that my computer's benchmark scores were identical to those of others with the same system but a Geforce-equivalent graphics card.
That is good to hear.

Now I just need one of those old school 40% coupons ^_~
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post #46 of 255
4/9/06 at 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by thecalifornian
I did some calulations with the image that was given of the M1710.

The screen is 13.333" x 20" if the display is 20" like they say.
what? the 1710 is a 17 inch screen by definition. note that it starts with 17. the 2010 is a 20 inch screen.

a 13.333x20 in screen is actually (13.33^2+20^2)^(1/2)= 24 inches diagonal not 20 inches....

Not to mention that the screen should be 16x10 aspect ratio so a 13.333 inch high screen shold be 21.33 inches wide or a 20 inch wide should be 12.5 inches high. neither of which yeilds a 20 inch screen anyway.

What calculations did you do with this image of the 1710?
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post #47 of 255
4/9/06 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by DarthPierce
what? the 1710 is a 17 inch screen by definition. note that it starts with 17. the 2010 is a 20 inch screen.

a 13.333x20 in screen is actually (13.33^2+20^2)^(1/2)= 24 inches diagonal not 20 inches....

Not to mention that the screen should be 16x10 aspect ratio so a 13.333 inch high screen shold be 21.33 inches wide or a 20 inch wide should be 12.5 inches high. neither of which yeilds a 20 inch screen anyway.

What calculations did you do with this image of the 1710?
I used my ruler (next to the picture of the 2010 and figured that the width of the display only was really close to 3" and the height is really close to 2". I was too lazy to use aspect ratio so I went into photoshop and plugged in 3" x 2". Then I did an image increase to 20" width and told it to maintain proportions. I looked at the 2010 before this and was thinking the 1710 was 20"
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post #48 of 255
4/9/06 at 11:22pm
I want to buy an XPS M170 or the Inspiron E1505. I am afraid if I buy one of those that the specs may rise on the XPS 1715 and I would be angry at myself XD
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post #49 of 255
4/9/06 at 11:27pm
Wish it had the full Dolby sound thingy. Oh well.

19" screen would be fun but that's not happening.

Curiosity and "I want one" begins to set in. /sigh
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post #50 of 255
4/10/06 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by Anemone
Maybe this would push some folks to the M90. I'd guess that the M90 if they had a 7900 option would let people choose the docking station option in the simplest way yes? (less than developing a 1720 )

On similar note, anyone want to hazard a guess if the 7900 Go will be dual link and thus capable of driving the 30" lcd? Ok maybe that's kinda crazy. Should just stick to the 2407...

/sigh
I really really much doubt that xps-line laptop is going to have dual link if
the m90 doesnt have it. In pictures the dvi-link at the back of the m90
is dual link, but apparently the quadro 2500M is not.
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post #51 of 255
4/10/06 at 7:34am
Actually, I wouldn't want 19" - as I will move this laptop frequently. 17" is the perfect form factor for me ATM. Big enough to be desktop replacement, small enough to fit in a backpack.

So, the M1710 has almost everything - upgradable to 4Gb, Merom (probably) and G80 (possibly). Magnesium-alloy chassis (like M90, but unlike 9400 AFAIK). Dual core and big 7200rpm HD. Still 2-3 hours of battery! Easily transportable. I don't need docking.

Just this one thing I'm unsure of, and that's the Dolby sound. Given the first class everything on this laptop, how could they possibly leave out good sound? Since many are buying the Audigy 2 ZS, the need is evident.


And several other laptops now have 7.1 sound, including this ASUS

http://labs.pcw.co.uk/2006/04/asus_launches_d.html

and this toshiba:

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=2716

Why not M1710?
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post #52 of 255
4/10/06 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by m94mni
Just this one thing I'm unsure of, and that's the Dolby sound. Given the first class everything on this laptop, how could they possibly leave out good sound? Since many are buying the Audigy 2 ZS, the need is evident.
Note that the M2010 certainly does have the 7.1 Dolby sound, with its 8 (or 8+1?) built-in speakers.
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post #53 of 255
4/10/06 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by thecalifornian
I want to buy an XPS M170 or the Inspiron E1505. I am afraid if I buy one of those that the specs may rise on the XPS 1715 and I would be angry at myself XD
If you just want the best performance and don't mind paying for it; wait for the M1710. It will offer an increase in gaming performance over any of the notebooks Dell is offering right now, no doubt. If you want the best performance for your money right now, go with the M170. The config in my sig with Complete Care warranty costed me $1550 shipped after taxes. You can't beat that.

The E1505 is really for very casual gamers who want more portability.
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post #54 of 255
4/10/06 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by m94mni
Note that the M2010 certainly does have the 7.1 Dolby sound, with its 8 (or 8+1?) built-in speakers.
Which sort of makes me think that Dell is withholding 7.1 sound from M1710 just to differentiate the market - media people buy M2010, gamers M1710. But I want it for the games!!!
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post #55 of 255
4/10/06 at 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by JSWeyth
I can officially inform you that the new XPS 1710 is available in Europe next april, 14th.

More infos on my website (in french)
so when will it be out in the us!?
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post #56 of 255
4/11/06 at 2:49am
Really wish it was going to come with the Dolby studio sound. Really really. Can't use the Audigy ZS in the expresscard slot so we'll be stuck either USB or internal sound. And soundblaster pro stuff is weak.

Moreover, Dolby headphone, a source often used by lappy gamers, sounds really good. It's not quite perfect but it's close. For the tiny additional cost, even without stick a zillion speakers in the frame, you'd think they'd include it.

Don't know if I want the form factor of the 2010 just for Dolby...

Anyway we shall see soon I hope just what they have in store for us.

Yes I'm seeing the same bullet list/checked off:

Dual core with Merom a probably upgrade

G80 - hopefully

4gb Mem for Vista - 2gb for XP

100gb 7200 HD with hopefully 160 7200 something we'll see someday

17" good enough screen - gamers love it but sure wish the response time was better - that won't happen in this generation however.

Solid build quality


Hopeful:

Dolby studio 7.1 sound


Wishlist for future

Raid 0 dual 2.5" drives
Improved response, CR and brightness screen, a true gamers screen of 10ms or so.
Docking station


*checkbook ready*

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post #57 of 255
4/11/06 at 3:18am
I just emailed my cousin who works for dell, and is pretty high up. She usually tells me all about the new releases way ahead of time. I will see what she has to say.

--k1tty
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post #58 of 255
4/11/06 at 4:43am
Thread Starter 
i don't think a laptop should be higher than 17", this screen is really best for movies best for games and all and carrying is easy anything larger than that size could be nonesense
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post #59 of 255
4/11/06 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by Anemone
Really wish it was going to come with the Dolby studio sound. Really really. Can't use the Audigy ZS in the expresscard slot so we'll be stuck either USB or internal sound. And soundblaster pro stuff is weak.
Problem is, the Audigy doesn't do any Dolby stuff anyway. Not DD Live, not Dolby Headphone.

Seems to me Creative (maker of Audigy) does not really like Dolby, as even their desktop cards don't usually come with Dolby stuff. They have their own proprietary EAX after all.

One of the reasons I would like the DD Live stuff are my headphones:



http://uk.europe.creative.com/produc...&product=11430

:-)

Of course, if I get Dolby Headphone on the card, the adapter won't be needed.

Unfortunately, I got confirmation again by Dell that the card is STAC9200, which is a 2-channel HD audio card.

http://www.sigmatel.com/products/pca...k/stac9200.asp

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post #60 of 255
4/11/06 at 7:33am
Well since Xifi based CMSS 3D is the closest (and it's actually not that close) to Dolby headphone I would agree the Dolby 7.1 suite would be a superb choice and one which would be very doable. In fact, now that it's been mentioned it seems kind of idiotic not to have included it. On the road gaming would be VERY well served by the Dolby solution and when home you could plug in Xifi if you wanted (oh wait that would take the docking station) or at least USB the Audigy 2 solution.

Having heard Dolby headphone in action and having some nice headphones myself, this is one wish I very much think a $30 chip should have been added to the M1710 to allow it. Even if people went with a Creative solution, having a default of Dolby Digital would have made gamers smile. /sigh

See we have discussions like this and then we find features we wish they had. M1710 is still a good machine I think. We are talking about finishing touches really.

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