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post #1 of 14
4/8/06 at 4:52pm
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Just for all those guys here with the same problem.

Got 2 MDT 1024MB Ram and had the problem they work too slow.... 166 or 183Mhz and high latencies.

The solution to this problem is a very nice program called A64Tweaker..... you can change absolutely ANY ram values on the fly under windows.... for me just two clicks and everything´s running on 200Mhz --- yippeeehhh
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post #2 of 14
4/10/06 at 2:19pm
Nice bit of info, thanks a lot!
You don't happen to know of a similar program that can change cpu voltage and clockspeed ? ie overclock?


--k1tty
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post #3 of 14
4/10/06 at 3:32pm
What are the best settings to use with the A64 Tweaker?
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post #4 of 14
4/18/06 at 11:20pm
Just got an updated bios from Sager....had to email them to get it. It now allows your memory to go to 200mhz. If you want it I can send it to you.
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post #5 of 14
4/19/06 at 1:16am
can't clockgen do all that?
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post #6 of 14
4/22/06 at 2:37pm
I would love the new bios sent to me
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post #7 of 14
4/22/06 at 9:29pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus9673
Just got an updated bios from Sager....had to email them to get it. It now allows your memory to go to 200mhz. If you want it I can send it to you.
Hi - what version of the BIOS is it? - Thanks
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post #8 of 14
11/10/06 at 3:22pm
Can someone send me the updated BIOS discussed @ octogoogles@hotmail.com please?
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post #9 of 14
12/21/06 at 1:35am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus9673
Just got an updated bios from Sager....had to email them to get it. It now allows your memory to go to 200mhz. If you want it I can send it to you.
Could nexus9673 or somebody else send me the new bios, or the values for A64 tweaker, please?

A64Tweaker, when I set the bus speed to 200, causes a burst of static and my computer to freeze.

Sager actually sent me a bios, but my machine refuses to budge from 157ish (i.e. 166).

I have my original gig stick of CAS 3@200 2.5@166 PC3200 supplied with the machine, and a new OCZ (because I love OCZ memory) gig stick rated 2.5@200 - OCZ4001024VSO.

Even with only 1 of either stick CPU-Z reports that the bus is running at 166.

There are no options I can see in my bios to make changes to the FSB speed - was i sent the wrong one? It came in a file named 975bv108s

Sager tech support actually asked me to run CPU-Z to test, and then when i sent them the screenshots interpreted the max bandwidth as the current speed. I pointed this out, and they went silent on me. Sigh.


As I pointed out to them, this is the critical element in getting my Vista performance score above 5
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post #10 of 14
12/21/06 at 6:06pm
Just realized I did not provide my email address - it is memetech a t comcast.net


Thank you!
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post #11 of 14
12/21/06 at 6:14pm
Ok... this is interesting.

After the third time I used A64Tweaker, and hard-crashed my laptop (again), and not even mentioning that I've been giving my wife a heart attack daily from the loud static noise, something strange has happened.

Today, when I ran A64Tweaker, all the values have changed! and I am apparently running at 200Mhz! Yay!

However, the other numbers are crazy, like I'm now CAS 4.5!!!!!!

FWIW, here is the .a64 file saved from A64Tweaker. Please have a good belly laugh at it:

[DRAM]
Tcl=-8 (this is the 4.5 value)
Trc=268435440
Trfc=16777200
Trcd=1048568
Trrd=65528
Tras=4080
Trp=248
Twr=14
Twcl=4088
Twtr=-2
Trtw=268435448
Tref=16777200
DLL=-2
DriveStrength=2147483646
Granularity32=8190
ReadWriteQueueBypass=262140
ControllerMode=65534
ECCMode=32766
BypassMax=120
TwoTTiming=14
MaxAsyncLatency=-16
ReadPreamble=16777200
IdleCycleLimit=65528
DynamicIdleCycleCounter=8190
MEMCLKFrequency=4088
MEMCLK0=62
MEMCLK1=30
MEMCLK2=14
MEMCLK3=6
DQSSkewMode=252
DQSSkew=65280
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post #12 of 14
12/21/06 at 6:23pm
Ok lets do this properly. Cut and save the section from [DRAM] on downwards into a xxx.a64 file, and load it into A64Tweaker. You'll get a chance to click Set - so don't.

Sager 9750 loaded with these memory modules as shown in CPU-Z (running CPU-Z in XPSP2 had problems with driver, so I ran it with compatibility mode set to Win95, then reloaded CPU-Z without compatibility mode and finally got the SPD timings.):

from PCT: Apacer Technology PC3200 1Gb SPD Timings: @200 CAS3-4-4-8 @166 CAS2.5-3-3-7 @133 CAS2-3-3-6
in Slot-2 (yes I moved it)

aftermarket: OCZ Technology OCZ4001024VSO PC3200 1GB SPD Timings: @200 CAS2.5-4-4-8 in Slot-1 (closest to the motherboard)

(Note that the OCZ memory is faster than the memory PCT provided - for shame PCT !)

[DRAM]
Tcl=-8
Trc=268435440
Trfc=16777200
Trcd=1048568
Trrd=65528
Tras=4080
Trp=248
Twr=14
Twcl=4088
Twtr=-2
Trtw=268435448
Tref=16777200
DLL=-2
DriveStrength=2147483646
Granularity32=8190
ReadWriteQueueBypass=262140
ControllerMode=65534
ECCMode=32766
BypassMax=120
TwoTTiming=14
MaxAsyncLatency=-16
ReadPreamble=16777200
IdleCycleLimit=65528
DynamicIdleCycleCounter=8190
MEMCLKFrequency=4088
MEMCLK0=62
MEMCLK1=30
MEMCLK2=14
MEMCLK3=6
DQSSkewMode=252
DQSSkew=65280
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post #13 of 14
12/21/06 at 8:14pm
Please disregard last postings. Those a64tweaker files are bad - they consist of the most cautious values possible for every single field. If i run cpuz first, I get the correct values. A64tweaker must be having problems reading the bios data
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post #14 of 14
12/21/06 at 9:52pm
Ok so here's the deal.

The 9750 bios has to make some determination of memory controller configuration that will work for both memory chips.

Since I had bought two different speed chips, it couldn't do it at 200Mhz so dropped back to 166Mhz.

Could be because of the dual channel configuration, could be for stability.

I fixed it though.... with this awesome tool:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=20349

So now my OCZ 2.5-4-4-8 is an OCZ 3.0-4-4-8 ( sad I know ). But it worked, and now I'm running at 200Mhz with a Vista rating of 4.8 for the memory, still .2 away.

And sorry to PCT - the Apacer memory in there is actually rated faster than the OCZ memory, except for the CAS level.

So wish me luck as I hack my
SODIMMS to death - they might both work as 2.5-3-3-7 - you never know
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