Looking at Voodoo Thread Closed? - Page 2

I am sorry but I disagree. This is a notebook forums - where else will you compare notebooks to make a decision ?? at an automobile forums??

Your job is to intervene when the situation gets nasty which was not the case here. I have a lot of respect for the mods but they cannot expect to get away with this kind of crap. That thread was sensible and civil - you should not intervene unless required - its not in your capacity to interfere with discussions on the forums when there is no harm being done. It is not up to you to use your instincts and predict where a thread is going with its conclusion - you have to wait and see and step in when something does happen.

And if in any way your statements were directed towards me then you are only putting yourself to shame as anyone reading this thread will infer. Nowhere have I made an offensive statement to elicit such a response from you. Assuming of course those lines were directed at me which is quite a substantial possibility.

I would like to see what the "adults" that moderate this forums have to say about this. Unfortunately you are not able to allow a discussion to continue - Where is the guy with the research behind alienware? I for one am VERY interested in seeing it because I get 10 emails from my brother in the UK every day asking me when his Alienware is gonna reach him...so please let me go ahead and order after seeing what you guys have to say FOR this system.

Thank you.

Heh, sounds like your Sager fanism is coming through GS.

We all have our own personal opinions. First thing, Sager has nothing like the M460 or M855, or the Area51M for that matter. Sager does have some close offerings for sure, and I believe their new Centrino is going to be incredible.

Sager currently does have the Clevo products, like the M750 (Voodoo). Now why would I purchase it from Voodoo over Sager? The Voodoo looks better, alot better, it is also tweaked to run faster in game specific applications. The Voodoo also has slighly modified thermals which make the notebook run slightly cooler than the stock Sager. The same goes with their M855 apparently, I saw a Mitac from another company at a recent computer show, and it was hot as hell on the palm rest. The Voodoo M855 doesn't get that hot on the palm rest because of their modifications.

Personally I don't care about the cost, it's the least of my concerns, I just wanted the performance and the service.

Hey...Do you have pics of the Voodoo thermal system? I thought it was essentially the same as Sager Voodoo does look sweet but its again the same old boring case isnt it?

Is Uniwill under contract with AW that they cant supply other brands?

GS, no I don't. I think it's different with every notebook (obviously). As far as I know there are major changes to the ECS Centrino and the Mitac Athlon. I'm not sure about the Sager/Clevo mods. Apparently Voodoo was able to release the M460 before anyone else due to the fact that they help ECS develop/test the platform as well.

I think Alienware doesn't want to supply other brands because they spent big money on tooling their own lid. Hypersonic carries a Uniwill as well, similar to the Alienware with user upgradable graphics.

Hey jjfcpa!
I'm new here to the boards, I was browsing and saw your closed thread and saw this one.
I understand what you are asking, I'm thinking that the moderator was afraid of a huge wham bam flame war.
I can't be of much help to you on the notebook front but I do have a Voodoo desktop, so I'll share my experiences with you.
One of the major deciding factors in my purchasing a Voodoo was the fact that they have an open community forum where anyone can ask or say just about anything.
Just as long as it's not crude or offensive. There are even forums devoted to anything but computers where owners and non-owners alike can talk about whatever.
In the computer/tech forums if you ask a question about Voodoo/Alienware you are likely to get some Voodoo fanboys of course, but you will also find some people that made switches and they will tell you why they changed.
You also have the ability to talk one on one with actual Voodoo techs and even the president of the company. All of whom have never said an unkind word about Alienware.
My machine took a long time to get here, but that’s because I had just ordered the XP 2800 chip about a month before it was shipped to vendors. The wait was horrible, but justified.
Tech support is very good, but at the moment stretched very thin.
They only have a handful of people doing tech support and it’s not enough, if you buy Voodoo in the next few months be prepared for long waits on the phone if you have tech questions, about 15-25 minutes. This will be changing soon as they are hiring new people. The way this was explained to me by one of the techs there was this, according to him they seldom have machines come back in, but Voodoo is selling so many machines now, even a small percentage of the sales being sent into tech support is now overwhelming them. Hopefully, when they move into their new building things will improve greatly. Another thing about tech support, the guys that you talk to on the phone are the same guys that actually work on the machines, so there is no disconnect there. Meaning you aren’t dealing with someone that has never worked on a computer before in their life and is just following some scripted prompts on a screen. Mainly I’m speaking of the mega vendors on this.

The Voodoo are expensive, no doubt, but I didn’t care. As far as I could tell they were the best IMHO. Paint job, case styling, wiring, customer service, fastest and most innovative. They seem like they are always working something new, though I will say the customer swap video card in the Alienware notebooks is very cool.

No, the AW and Voodoo machines are very close, but it was the open forums that did it for me. Being able to ask peoples opinions, good and bad about the company without it being censored was the thing that pushed me over the top.

Hope I could help a little, good luck on whatever you decide to go with

Come by and drop a line on the Voodoo community if you ever have the chance.

Later.

Not at all, the general notebook forum would be prime location for this type of discussion.

I am not trying to get away with this "kind of crap". I made a statement about killing the thread before it gets out of hand, most of the time this happens. It wasn't my call to close the thread.

Last time I remember, you weren't running the show here, now where you?

My statements were not directed towards you. NOTE the:

FriedToast,

Normally I do not respond....blah blah blah

Like I previously stated, it is not my call to close a thread, only to make a suggestion.

Research? It is all over this forum. Not in any special research format, but you can draw your own conclusions by putting the pieces together.

Thank you for suggesting that I do my own research. I want to hear his reasons if YOU dont mind.

If this was such a big problem - why not move the thread to the appropriate forums instead of closing it? Oh wait...that idea never crossed your mind - so THAT is a suggestion from me.

And about me running the show - it very well could have been. I did have mod powers before and turned it up because i am very passionate about hardware and thats not a good combination with a LOT of power on the forums...leads to bad decisions being made. So when I tell you how you should be doing your job - my opinion is probably shared by a vast majority of the people here who are fed up with the moderator excesses. Keep it clean...dont try to clean up the content any way you like.

So I am VERY happy where I am in and in my own way I am still in control

Thank you for suggesting that the thread be closed - there's what you call a "report Post" system for these sort of things. its the ! mark located to the bottom left side of the posts - That will alert the mods to act - I do this LOADS of times...The devil is in the detail and in the procedure

gsferrari,
I understand your reply to my last post. In any event I think we should simmer this down. Most of it is a lot of "who shot John." I feel, though, that the person in the wrong was the original poster who could have restated the question, yet address the closing of his previous post by E-mailing the mods.

Your preaching to the wrong person here gsferrari, wake up. I am not a mod, so go bother them not me. If you don't like what I do, or say, I don't care. Put me on ignore, or just deal with it.

VooDoo graphics cards are not even being made any more. What is the big argument about? We should all be glad to not need a separate "graphics" accelerator. That was the pinnacle of gaming gayness.

LOL

I agree that this has been taken far enough. CharlieBox - just fyi - there is the option for you to report posts without making yourself "public"

and DarthBeavis - They stopped making Voodoo cards!!?!?!

gsferrari

Thanks DarthBeavis for breaking the tension of a thread going into oblivion.
I was gonna try that but could not find a pic that represented this thread you however seem to have a knack for it.

(all hail darthbeavis the court jester of the forum!)

I am the respository of useless information, which I why I program for a living.

ROTFL dude - you're too much

Because we shouldn't have to make your decision for you on which laptop to get. It is still the same topic. "Why choose Alienware" Whether its a Voodoo/Dell/Sager/ whatever else you're looking at.

This thread got so long spaning 2 threads actualy the reasonyou should consider alienware.

1# it looks realy cool if you do not agree buy nother laptop
2# Upgradeable Graphics
3# Uber Geeks will embrace you as one of thier own
4# You can get great info at this forum for it I would dare say better suppor t than alienwares forum.
5# If you are going for a desktop replacement laptop you cannot go wrong with alienware although the wait may be long it is defatly worth it.

There is my opinion hope your question is sufficently answered so this thread will end!