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post #21 of 49
4/14/06 at 10:28am
Whatever you enjoy most is what you should use.

To me, changing the settings (at least for the first run-through) is akin to colorizing an old B&W movie (or say... Sin City) where the director painstakingly chose every shade of gray to work well together. To each their own.
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post #22 of 49
4/14/06 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by IntgrSpin
Whatever you enjoy most is what you should use.

To me, changing the settings (at least for the first run-through) is akin to colorizing an old B&W movie (or say... Sin City) where the director painstakingly chose every shade of gray to work well together. To each their own.
You know what? I forgot to put in those .ini tweaks when I was looking at the HDR setup. Doh! I'll give that a try later tonight when I get home.

Anyother thing that I'd like to mention is that I can't use AA when HDR is on. ..and to make my framerates decent I have to lower the resolution. So it seems like it's either bloom with AA, or HDR without AA.

I think I tried to force AA on with HDR and it didn't work.

Any idea?
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post #23 of 49
4/14/06 at 2:05pm
You can't use HDR with AA, it's just how the game is programmed.
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post #24 of 49
4/15/06 at 10:43am
ATI users can do HDR and AA, Nvidia users can not.

The two sites I check for mods are. . . .

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.co...ivionMods.List
and
http://www.tessource.net/

Two good tweak guides are
http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html
and
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?CIID=36546

I use the following Graphic/UI related mods.
Landscape LOD replacement textures for Oblivion
Version 1.0
LANDSCAPE LOD NORMALMAP FIX
Jarrod's landscape texture replacements (get main file and patch)
BETTER IMPERFECT WATER
BTMod (interface)
Harvest MOD - Removes the plants when you harvest them, they come back when you can harvest some more.
Seasonal Weather for More Sky Climates
(No clicky if under 18 : ) NUDE TOPLESS TEXTURE REVAMP - Removes the bra on female characters.


Game play mods
AF Leveling Mod - This mod changes the way you level and how your attributes are handled. I hated how you had to design your levels and what you did to get max attributes. This changes them to be based on your skills. Also gives you several more options on how to level.
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul - Adjusts the levels / loot of mobs to make things a bit harder, and add diversity to the mobs you encounter (not all mobs will be your level, some higher, some lower).
Quest Award Leveling - This mod makes quest rewards scale with your level. (there are different rewards based off your level, this upgrades the item to what you would have got when you level)
CALLSTEED2.5 + SADDLEBAGS0.91 - Adds storage to your horse and gives some additional functionality (follow, come, summon)
Shadowfax - Changes the Friar's horse model and adds some speed.
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post #25 of 49
4/15/06 at 12:38pm
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Well, I figured out why my colors are so washed out on my 9300. It's because of the screen itself (I'm guessing). How did I come to that conclusion? Well, I used a program called Monitor Calibration Wizard to calibrate my Dell 2001FP which has a eVGA nVidia 7800GS 256MB OC SC video card. Then right away I did the same thing on my 9300 which has a 7800GTX Go 256MB. Now each monitor is calibrated the same as to what my eye sees. Then I run Oblivion. The opening screen that has the "Play, Options, etc" is even more washed out on the 9300 than my PC.

Is it because the physical LCD panel on the Dell 2001FP is just more vibrant with colors and has blacker blacks, etc?

I noticed that when I'm sitting at my desktop which has a black background, It's not really black. It's a dark gray. This tells me that the settings aren't right. But if I play with the brightness and contrast settings, the background doesn't get any darker, it just gets lighter. I think if I can figure out this problem that I might be able to get my 9300/7800 to look as good as my PC does.

Does anyone else notice this with their laptops?
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post #26 of 49
4/15/06 at 4:18pm
I'm not about to read all of this, but I've noted this as most important (I tested hours on the .ini, but I really think everyone should tweak their own .ini):

When I encountered Gates, or in fights, I'd get some serious stuttering, and if I quickly turned to a gate to oblivion, I'd get 100% crash. To solve that, I turned the "shimmering/invisibility effect" to off, forgot the name of it (check www.tweakguides.com). Catch is, instead of the invisibility effect of chameleon, the guy dissapears, and instead of the blur/ heat blur effect, I either get nothing(i.e. Gates to Oblivion lose that shimmering/ blur effect around them), or blackness (Soul trap, for example, the hand is hidden in a black sphere). I sort of like those black rings/ spheres, and I definetly can live without the constant stutters in fights, near portals, and thank god, no more crashes, that thing seemed to cause most.

Outdoors is a killer (with 1920x1200), got the grass density to 130.

That together with the "standard" tweaks that are suggested by "www.tweakguides.com", I'm playing all max, 1920x1200, with no stuttering or <20 FPS. Hope it helps to some out there, and BTW, 1920x1200 with 4x AA and 4x AF rules ALL!!!

€dit: eh, no HDR, to those that didn't catch it at "4x AA"
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post #27 of 49
4/15/06 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by Allistah
Is it because the physical LCD panel on the Dell 2001FP is just more vibrant with colors and has blacker blacks, etc?
Try going into your nvidia control panel, go to the color setting, and make sure to select apply color changes to all. Then adjust the digital vibrance.

I have mine set about half way between off and the first tick mark. I also have my contrast set up a little bit and my gamma set down some. You should be able to compensate for any problems your having with the colors and darkness playing with these settings, unless there is something seriously wrong with your lcd.
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post #28 of 49
4/15/06 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by maddbomber83
Try going into your nvidia control panel, go to the color setting, and make sure to select apply color changes to all. Then adjust the digital vibrance.

I have mine set about half way between off and the first tick mark. I also have my contrast set up a little bit and my gamma set down some. You should be able to compensate for any problems your having with the colors and darkness playing with these settings, unless there is something seriously wrong with your lcd.
Ok, I was able to make the display look pretty close to my 2001FP. Now the problem that I have is that when I reboot, it doesn't load that color profile by default. Once I open the nVidia control panel, the color profile kicks into place without me doing anything other than just loading the nVidia control panel. How do I get it to use that color profile when the system reboots?

If yours does this automatically when you reboot, which driver are you using? I'm using Tony's 84.25 v2.30 drivers.
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post #29 of 49
4/16/06 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by Master_Axe
That together with the "standard" tweaks that are suggested by "www.tweakguides.com", I'm playing all max, 1920x1200, with no stuttering or <20 FPS. Hope it helps to some out there, and BTW, 1920x1200 with 4x AA and 4x AF rules ALL!!!
i just spent three hours on tweakguides changing settings and the ini file and my game still plays like a slideshow.

do you mind posting or pming me you ini file? i'm beyond frustrated and want to play this game.
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post #30 of 49
4/16/06 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by Allistah
Btw, I'd love it if someone would use my settings and let me know what you think about them. :-)
see my above post and know how frustrated i've been at this game.

dude, your settings work!

i started with the default ini file and used your settings and the game runs great.

i don't know why i had a slideshow before, i probably messed something up while editing the ini file with the tweakguide, but oh well. it works now.

thanks.
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post #31 of 49
4/16/06 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Allistah
Ok, I was able to make the display look pretty close to my 2001FP. Now the problem that I have is that when I reboot, it doesn't load that color profile by default. Once I open the nVidia control panel, the color profile kicks into place without me doing anything other than just loading the nVidia control panel. How do I get it to use that color profile when the system reboots?

If yours does this automatically when you reboot, which driver are you using? I'm using Tony's 84.25 v2.30 drivers.
Hmm, mine does it automaticaly. I'm using the same driver as well. I didn't make a custom profile, just altered the settings and hit apply. (so in the profile selection menu, I just have standard and advanced listed. Standard has my settings in it)
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post #32 of 49
4/16/06 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by ryansebiz
see my above post and know how frustrated i've been at this game.

dude, your settings work!

i started with the default ini file and used your settings and the game runs great.

i don't know why i had a slideshow before, i probably messed something up while editing the ini file with the tweakguide, but oh well. it works now.

thanks.
Ha! Cool man! That's great news! I had the same results as you, I played with the ini files stuff for a number of hours and all it did was kill my perf. You know another thing that I used with those settings was all of the landscape mods and the natural water mods and it just seemed to make it look a lot better and didn't really hit perf much at all. Give those a try and see if it does the same thing for you. Here is a link to all but one of the mods that I have installed: Highly Recommended Mods. ..and the last mod that I installed was one called Natural Environments. It makes the sky and water look a lot better.

One thing that I would highly suggest is to make a backup of the data directory before you install these mods. That way you can easily go back the way you were if it has a bad impact on your performance.

I think what I'll do is up my original post and call that a "Good starting point" for people and then they can tweak from there.
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post #33 of 49
4/16/06 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by maddbomber83
Hmm, mine does it automaticaly. I'm using the same driver as well. I didn't make a custom profile, just altered the settings and hit apply. (so in the profile selection menu, I just have standard and advanced listed. Standard has my settings in it)
Hm, maybe I'll give that a try and see if that works for me or not. Thanks for the tip.
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post #34 of 49
4/16/06 at 12:48pm
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Hey guys, I have updated the first post here with an easier to read set of instructions and updated it with the recommended mods along with some very minor .ini file changes to make the game skip the movies when you start the game. Let me know if anyone has any additional feedback to the instructions in the first post. Thanks!
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post #35 of 49
4/16/06 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Allistah
Ha! Cool man! That's great news! I had the same results as you, I played with the ini files stuff for a number of hours and all it did was kill my perf. You know another thing that I used with those settings was all of the landscape mods and the natural water mods and it just seemed to make it look a lot better and didn't really hit perf much at all. Give those a try and see if it does the same thing for you. Here is a link to all but one of the mods that I have installed: Highly Recommended Mods. ..and the last mod that I installed was one called Natural Environments. It makes the sky and water look a lot better.

One thing that I would highly suggest is to make a backup of the data directory before you install these mods. That way you can easily go back the way you were if it has a bad impact on your performance.

I think what I'll do is up my original post and call that a "Good starting point" for people and then they can tweak from there.
I held off on the natural environment mod... I want my game to look realistic. Just something to consider for those considering installing it
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post #36 of 49
4/16/06 at 2:10pm
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What do you mean you want it to look realistic? I think it looks better. The water in Lake Tahoe is pretty much clear for many many feet. Theres no reason why the water in these lands can't look similar. Have you tried this mod? If not, you should try it out and see what you think. To me, it didn't make it look phoney or anything.
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post #37 of 49
4/16/06 at 3:12pm
If your game's running like a slideshow, it's not your .ini thats bottlenecking, that just wins you... few few fps, if even, just removes some stuttering. No HDR, the seeing in the distance should be normal (the gridstoload)... the .ini really doesn't help, apart from turning that shimmering effect off >-<.

Is your 7800 gtx stable on those clocks, overheating? I just cleaned out my comp, with the new spire pacificbreeze, might start crashing in a month or so ^^.
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post #38 of 49
4/16/06 at 3:46pm
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My card is rock solid at those clock speeds. I played Oblivion for 3 hours last night with my wife and things were perfect. When I first overclocked it, I let the ATITool run and it didn't detect any pixelation after an hour so I figured that I was pretty well into the safe zone. I haven't had a single hiccup to be honest.
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post #39 of 49
4/16/06 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by Allistah
I had the same results as you, I played with the ini files stuff for a number of hours and all it did was kill my perf.
this has to be one of the biggest ironies of all. i spend hours reading through the tweak guide and customizing my .ini file to do everything i can to get the best possible performance.

then i end up with a slideshow.

then i start with a new .ini file and use your settings. it takes 3 minutes and it runs beautifully.

oh the irony.

btw, i downloaded all of the landscape mods that were listed in the tweak guide. just to make sure i installed them right, i created a textures folder in the data folder (along with music, shaders and video) then extracted all the files there, right? after i finally got the game running well i went to bed; didn't have enough time to gaze at the new textures.

i need to install that outdoor mod though; sounds cool.

anyway, thanks again for the help.
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post #40 of 49
4/16/06 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by Allistah
What do you mean you want it to look realistic? I think it looks better. The water in Lake Tahoe is pretty much clear for many many feet. Theres no reason why the water in these lands can't look similar. Have you tried this mod? If not, you should try it out and see what you think. To me, it didn't make it look phoney or anything.
Read the comments on your link. I haven't tried it, but the screenshots don't look realistic to me. They look nice, though. I like the Farcry reference in the comments on that page.
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