Well Here is the long and short of it fellas. About a year ago (yes I am stupid) I made a trade with a fellow who goes by Cross on these boards. The trade was as follows:
An Inspiron 8500 with an extra 1 GB stick of RAM for $1050. He was fronting the amount for a client of his. Also in the trade was a deal I had completed with Catsonar for an 8600 for my Inspiron 9100. Cross was the owner of the 8600 and shipped it to Catsonar then it was shipped to me. Cross had said the vid card would be a 9600PT. Well it didn't come with that so he had said he would get it from Dell. I eventually found it on eBay for $237.00. Cross says fine to it so I get it. It was $237 plus $12.99 shipping. So now I am down $1300.(1050+250) You keeping track of this?
So, we agree to the whole deal. I send him the 8500 with a "downpayment" of $224.36 from a Kenneth Cole. I ask him as it is not his paypal account and he tellls me this is the client of his who owes him money and once he has a couple of other deals taken care of including the sale of an Apple iBook I will see the rest of my money. I figure, he has good HEAT, he's entitled to check the goods out, and I never thought twice. I shipped it (Yes I am that stupid)
Well fast forward a bit shall we. I am really an opera singer and was performing a La Boheme in April with my soon to be wife (basically after completing this deal I left to do an opera.) So I still do not have the money. So I call Cross on my cell and we talk. Apparently he is in it with Paypal because he has a dispute over the Apple iBook on eBay concerning the guy thinking he is getting 2 LCD's and not one or some such. It seemed convaluded but heck, he seems like a nice guy and I am making a good profit on this laptop (and making bank doing this opera) so I let it slide. I receive a second payment for $320.00. things look good now. He promises me this will be taken care of soon.
Okay, so let me be up front. I was a wuss, felt sorry for the guy and completely let him slide. I now have what? $544.26 of the $1300 total. When we talked on the phone that time I knocked roughly $200 off since he is in bad shape asking for only $600 more in return. He promises to pay me ASAP.
Fast forward....I have three operas during the summer and let everything just go to hell with this deal. I don't contact him I am slammed learning 300+ pages in Italian and am the lead in all three operas so no rest for me. The question is shouldn't he have contacted ME? shouldn't he have PAID ME? So I am on the internet one night in October (I know, I know a LONG time later) and this guy who was telling me how he was broke, he's in trouble yadayadayada. What do I see? Him on HERE trading a PSP and stuff for a laptop (or trying to) specifically an m6805 and some cash. Let's see.... he owed me $600 still. So I pm him ALL over the place. Anand, HardOCP and here along with the mods. I have every pm I sent him here at Anand and at HardOCP. So if he tries to deny any of this he is dead in the water.
Let me defend one thing. I make really good money singing. I am not hurting from this deal moneywise, but it is the PRINCIPAL that I cut someone slack and they promised to pay me back that is pissing me off. I told him I was hurtng for money because geez, the guy owes me what is fair. He got the goods where is my cash?? I let him slide for months. I want to help people I think are reasonably honest people, because we all have tough times in life. And this quote from the Cold Dark Shadow a Moderator at HardOCP hits home now:
After letting him slide with the mods (he had a baby on the way and was out of work, and having legal issues with his landlord or some such) I being a bleed hearted wuss let him slide and don't report him to troll hunters or anything. I just let him be. I give him another chance (YES I am stupid, STUPID!!!). So he gets me a payment in late october for $140 and $140 in december. So we are at what? 600-140-140 or 320? I was off by $30 in my pm to him (I told him $350 on 2/24/06 my bad 
)
Now we are in April more than a year after the deal began. His pm's are smug and accusing me of OVER ESTIMATING what he owes me and the most I can expect is $100 two weeks from now when he gets paid at work.. Never mind he was ready to drop $800 on a laptop here just 7 days ago:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=145741
Here is his quote in case he gets wise and edits his post.
$800 went fast I guess didn't Cross??
I got docs, I got paypal receipts and a good deal of this is going straight to Trollhunters as well as Anandtech and HardOCP. This deal began here and at the [H] and was consumated over pm over all three (Including pm's from you profusely apologizing saying you would make it right Well you didn't quite get it done did you?). So I feel an obligation to let people know what kind of trader they are dealing with.
Am I innocent? Nope. I was stupid, trusting. and frankly I flat out didn't follow up. But I ask you: Does this negligence on my part to force him to pay me mean I deserve to be ripped off? (He promised to pay me off and I DISCOUNTED the amount by $255.74 to help him out and get it resolved.) I think he should pay up. So Here it is. If he wants to try to defend himself and say anything otherwise I got pm's and lots of back up docs to shoot any of his half truths down.
I tried Elliot to be fair, I tried to let you slide, and you took advantage of me and I will be damned if you take advantage of someone else...
Richard
PS: This has been the ONLY bad trade I have ever had in my dealings. So to all the others on this board, the [H], and Anand, thank you. You have been good communities to me and allowed me to afford my tech addiction without pissing off the wife,
PLEASE BUMP THIS THREAD SO OTHER TRADERS DO NOT GET SCREWED LIKE I DID
An Inspiron 8500 with an extra 1 GB stick of RAM for $1050. He was fronting the amount for a client of his. Also in the trade was a deal I had completed with Catsonar for an 8600 for my Inspiron 9100. Cross was the owner of the 8600 and shipped it to Catsonar then it was shipped to me. Cross had said the vid card would be a 9600PT. Well it didn't come with that so he had said he would get it from Dell. I eventually found it on eBay for $237.00. Cross says fine to it so I get it. It was $237 plus $12.99 shipping. So now I am down $1300.(1050+250) You keeping track of this?
So, we agree to the whole deal. I send him the 8500 with a "downpayment" of $224.36 from a Kenneth Cole. I ask him as it is not his paypal account and he tellls me this is the client of his who owes him money and once he has a couple of other deals taken care of including the sale of an Apple iBook I will see the rest of my money. I figure, he has good HEAT, he's entitled to check the goods out, and I never thought twice. I shipped it (Yes I am that stupid)
Well fast forward a bit shall we. I am really an opera singer and was performing a La Boheme in April with my soon to be wife (basically after completing this deal I left to do an opera.) So I still do not have the money. So I call Cross on my cell and we talk. Apparently he is in it with Paypal because he has a dispute over the Apple iBook on eBay concerning the guy thinking he is getting 2 LCD's and not one or some such. It seemed convaluded but heck, he seems like a nice guy and I am making a good profit on this laptop (and making bank doing this opera) so I let it slide. I receive a second payment for $320.00. things look good now. He promises me this will be taken care of soon.
Okay, so let me be up front. I was a wuss, felt sorry for the guy and completely let him slide. I now have what? $544.26 of the $1300 total. When we talked on the phone that time I knocked roughly $200 off since he is in bad shape asking for only $600 more in return. He promises to pay me ASAP.
Fast forward....I have three operas during the summer and let everything just go to hell with this deal. I don't contact him I am slammed learning 300+ pages in Italian and am the lead in all three operas so no rest for me. The question is shouldn't he have contacted ME? shouldn't he have PAID ME? So I am on the internet one night in October (I know, I know a LONG time later) and this guy who was telling me how he was broke, he's in trouble yadayadayada. What do I see? Him on HERE trading a PSP and stuff for a laptop (or trying to) specifically an m6805 and some cash. Let's see.... he owed me $600 still. So I pm him ALL over the place. Anand, HardOCP and here along with the mods. I have every pm I sent him here at Anand and at HardOCP. So if he tries to deny any of this he is dead in the water.
Let me defend one thing. I make really good money singing. I am not hurting from this deal moneywise, but it is the PRINCIPAL that I cut someone slack and they promised to pay me back that is pissing me off. I told him I was hurtng for money because geez, the guy owes me what is fair. He got the goods where is my cash?? I let him slide for months. I want to help people I think are reasonably honest people, because we all have tough times in life. And this quote from the Cold Dark Shadow a Moderator at HardOCP hits home now:
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Originally Posted by Cold Dark Shadow
"Yea, thats a long time to be waitin on payment for something.
Drop him a PM sayin what you told me (CC copy of the PM) just lettin him know that i know about this and that he needs to make good ASAP. Being polite is one thing but come on man, get pissed youve waited long enough. Tell him you want your payment in full for whats owed or youll have to prosue other means of collection," |
)Now we are in April more than a year after the deal began. His pm's are smug and accusing me of OVER ESTIMATING what he owes me and the most I can expect is $100 two weeks from now when he gets paid at work.. Never mind he was ready to drop $800 on a laptop here just 7 days ago:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=145741
Here is his quote in case he gets wise and edits his post.
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Originally Posted by Cross
I have 800 if thats good enough ^-^
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$800 went fast I guess didn't Cross??
I got docs, I got paypal receipts and a good deal of this is going straight to Trollhunters as well as Anandtech and HardOCP. This deal began here and at the [H] and was consumated over pm over all three (Including pm's from you profusely apologizing saying you would make it right
Well you didn't quite get it done did you?). So I feel an obligation to let people know what kind of trader they are dealing with.Am I innocent? Nope. I was stupid, trusting. and frankly I flat out didn't follow up. But I ask you: Does this negligence on my part to force him to pay me mean I deserve to be ripped off? (He promised to pay me off and I DISCOUNTED the amount by $255.74 to help him out and get it resolved.) I think he should pay up. So Here it is. If he wants to try to defend himself and say anything otherwise I got pm's and lots of back up docs to shoot any of his half truths down.
I tried Elliot to be fair, I tried to let you slide, and you took advantage of me and I will be damned if you take advantage of someone else...
Richard
PS: This has been the ONLY bad trade I have ever had in my dealings. So to all the others on this board, the [H], and Anand, thank you. You have been good communities to me and allowed me to afford my tech addiction without pissing off the wife,
PLEASE BUMP THIS THREAD SO OTHER TRADERS DO NOT GET SCREWED LIKE I DID
