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post #21 of 50
So a sefer method would be to accept money order only?
Then the buyer is not too secure this way, is he?
I was gonna put a XFX 7900GTX EE up for sale but having second thoughts now!
post #22 of 50
wow thx for posting this now the buyers can get scammed more
post #23 of 50
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by aintz
wow thx for posting this now the buyers can get scammed more
Only if you throw caution to the wind.
post #24 of 50
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Originally Posted by wolf1306
i dont know about u guyd but i hope someone knows a user that goes by prophetx , i bought a lappy from him and sent him the money 10 days ago and till now i didnt recieve anything at all, the tracking number that he gave me said



he is paypal verified and has 30+ heat
i am paypal verified too

now the question is what can i do to get my money back, if he did scam me

i have his address and his phone number

He probably didnt scam you, just hasnt had time to send it out, but if you did get scammed contact Paypal
post #25 of 50
see paypalsucks.com
post #26 of 50
Paypal can and does stop transfers to your bank account if they flag your account with "suspicious activity". Their idea of suspicious activity is nebulous at best.

I attempted to sell some stuff on Ebay recently and when the auction ended the buyer promptly paid me via Paypal. I initiated a transfer to my bank account and the very next day I got an email informing me that my account was flagged for "suspicious activity" and they stopped the transfer and put a hold on ALL funds in my account, including some money I already had in there.

I basically just told the buyer that I was unwilling to ship the items until Paypal unfroze my funds. The buyer contacted Paypal and told him that we were not going to continue our transaction and got his money back but my account is STILL frozen even after we both contacted Paypal and informed them that we were not going to go through with the transaction.

Paypal is utter crap. I have a Google Checkout merchant account now which gives sellers and buyers a LOT better protection.
post #27 of 50
What would you guys recommend to be the best methods for sellers receiving a payment?
post #28 of 50
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vcw View Post
What would you guys recommend to be the best methods for sellers receiving a payment?
PayPal? Or are you talking about what method period - like Money Order, Bank Cheque or PayPal?

I have been using PayPal for years and yet to have a problem. I had one, and that was my own doing
post #29 of 50
Method period.
Best method that won't put the seller at risk, or the buyers think the seller is attempting a scam.
post #30 of 50
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vcw View Post
Method period.
Best method that won't put the seller at risk, or the buyers think the seller is attempting a scam.
That's tricky. Money Order is the safest for the seller. Buyer may feel cheated if things go wrong and you don't move fast enough.

Best way? Paypal. Once paid, take out the funds and ship the item. Cover with insurance, tracking and or signature confirmation if necessary. Build this into the shipping charges.

Never failed me yet
post #31 of 50
never pay a buying fee to use paypal
post #32 of 50
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Originally Posted by Guntizzle View Post
sticky!
re-sticky!

I'm not sure if this was stickied when it was originally made, but it is now Good stuff, even if it is a year old
post #33 of 50
Noticed that paypal is now charging a 4% fee on anything. So in order to get your price your asking and/or the S&H then you might want to include 4% on anything you sell.
post #34 of 50
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Originally Posted by Firefighter3110 View Post
Noticed that paypal is now charging a 4% fee on anything. So in order to get your price your asking and/or the S&H then you might want to include 4% on anything you sell.
but just remember that if you do that, the markup needs to be consistent no matter what form of payment you're using/requesting, as otherwise it violates Paypal's rules, and thus violates ours as well.
post #35 of 50
Yup, thanks for the clarification Dj, you might want to make an example of what u mean by 'markup'.


Yes I mean for me
post #36 of 50
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Originally Posted by Firefighter3110 View Post
Noticed that paypal is now charging a 4% fee on anything. So in order to get your price your asking and/or the S&H then you might want to include 4% on anything you sell.
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Originally Posted by Firefighter3110 View Post
Yup, thanks for the clarification Dj, you might want to make an example of what u mean by 'markup'.


Yes I mean for me
See the highlighted portion of your earlier post. If you plan to markup (increase) the asking price of your item to 4% more than the minimum you'd be willing to receive for it in order to still get your required amount after Paypal fees have been taken out, then in order to stay within Paypal's terms of service, this markup (increase in price) must exist even if a different payment method is being used.

In simple terms, you can't charge more for an item that's being paid via Paypal as opposed to via some other payment method. So charging additional "paypal fees" is against their policy, and thus against our FS forum rules.

example:
Say I wanted to sell my notebook and I wanted to get a minimum of $500. In order to still get $500 if someone paid via Paypal, I'd need to charge 104% of my desired price, or $521. However, since Paypal says that my asking price needs to be the same no matter the payment method, then my overall asking price must go up from $500 to $521.
post #37 of 50
Thanks for the clarification Dj
post #38 of 50
I'm not certain of this, but can't you offer a "cash" discount if the buyer pays with check or money order? I know at a lot of computer shows I've been at vendors often sell their items for a certain price, but offer a discount if you pay with cash/check (so they can avoid credit card fees).
post #39 of 50
You raise a good question, so here's how the Paypal rules phrase it:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paypal User Agreement
4.7 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.
From their wording, even though you're working from the idea of a "discount" and they're working from the idea of a "surcharge", I don't think the "cash discount" idea would fly.
post #40 of 50
So I have a question, lets say hypothetically someone wants to buy my laptop for $1,000 and I receive the payment in my paypal account. I transfer all the money to my bank account, and then withdraw that money so that I physically have it in my hand. I send the laptop, but then I'm notified that the buyer is claiming that it never arrived or its not as described. Paypal has the power to go into my bank account and take that money back even if its not there? Or if there is insufficient funds they post the negative balace on my paypal account?

Is there anyway to beat a potential scammer at his own game in this case?
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