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1710 BIOS into a 1705 ?

post #1 of 14
4/24/06 at 7:04pm
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I have tried to flash BIOS A00MXG61.EXE of the 1710 into the 1705, but I got the message:

Cannot use a "Dell System MXG061" Bios into a "Dell System MP06".

Anyone with ideas how to get this done?
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post #2 of 14
4/24/06 at 7:19pm
I think you have to hack the bioses and merge them into something that takes what you want from the 1710, but still looks like a 1705 bios. I'm not aware that anyone has successfully done this yet.
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post #3 of 14
4/25/06 at 11:33am
try flashing the BIOS with the /jabil or /forceit switch from DOS....mind you you COULD screw up your notebook doing this so I'm not responsible if you do. I don't think you would gain anything by flashing your 1705 with an XPS BIOS....except maybe control over the non-existant LEDs in your Laptop.
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post #4 of 14
4/25/06 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by MrEvil
try flashing the BIOS with the /jabil or /forceit switch from DOS....mind you you COULD screw up your notebook doing this so I'm not responsible if you do. I don't think you would gain anything by flashing your 1705 with an XPS BIOS....except maybe control over the non-existant LEDs in your Laptop.
Could you be more specific. I do not have a separate Flash program and a Bios file.
All I have is A00MXG61.EXE wich is Flash plus Bios in one go..
Adding /forceit behind this exe file does not bring me any further.
Can I extract the Bios from the .EXE file, use some Bios flash program and then use the /forceit ?
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post #5 of 14
4/25/06 at 1:00pm
I really don't understand what you are trying to accomplish by using the 1710 BIOS. What leads you to believe you are going to gain anything here?
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post #6 of 14
4/25/06 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by t024484
Could you be more specific. I do not have a separate Flash program and a Bios file. All I have is A00MXG61.EXE wich is Flash plus Bios in one go.. Adding /forceit behind this exe file does not bring me any further. Can I extract the Bios from the .EXE file, use some Bios flash program and then use the /forceit ?
I thought it would be obvious that you use the command line switches with the executable you just named, but I digress. /jabil and /forceit will force the BIOS image contained within the EXE to flash to a system not supported. From the command prompt you'd type: C:\\>a00mxg61.exe /forceit If that doesn't work try: C:\\>a00mxg61.exe /jabil Now if you can't get this to work, you've either got a problem, or you're trying to do this from inside a DOS window. If the latter is the case, DO NOT under any circumstance do it as you'll only make your life more difficult. /jabil was the one that worked when I flashed my Inspiron 8200 with a Latitude C840 BIOS....I did that so I could use a CDock II with my Inspiron. Again however, I beleive you will reap no benefit at all from flashing your E1705 with an XPS BIOS.
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post #7 of 14
4/25/06 at 7:32pm
I guess you guys didn't hear we're preparing to stuff Go7900GTX cards into our 9400's?!?! Getting the XPSm1710 BIOS to flash properly onto the 9400 is a step we want covered. =)

Anyone know who made the 9300/XPS hacked BIOS? I'd like to talk to them. See if all I have to do is ResEdit the System Identifier Code to get it to work or if more needs to be edited. =/
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post #8 of 14
4/25/06 at 7:43pm
The OP never made note that that is what he was attempting. I'm sorry but my powers of clairvoiance don't work on Tuesdays.

Odds are flashing to an XPS BIOS is unneccessary with the E1705. The only reason nobody can't get an X1400 out of an i6400 to work in an i6000D is because they have drastically different motherboards despite having the same configuration for the video card.
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post #9 of 14
4/25/06 at 8:04pm
Well the 9400 didn't get 7900GTX support in the latest BIOS, they only got 7900GS. So until we get the 7900GTX in our hands to see if the new BIOS already works... we're just preparing the same way the 9300/XPS2 upgrade went.

Btw, Evil... can you get us an updated Warrant Parts Direct list for the Inspiron/XPS laptops? One that includes the XPS m1710 would be awesome. =)
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post #10 of 14
4/26/06 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by MrEvil
I thought it would be obvious that you use the command line switches with the executable you just named, but I digress. /jabil and /forceit will force the BIOS image contained within the EXE to flash to a system not supported. From the command prompt you'd type:

C:\\>a00mxg61.exe /forceit

If that doesn't work try:

C:\\>a00mxg61.exe /jabil

Now if you can't get this to work, you've either got a problem, or you're trying to do this from inside a DOS window. If the latter is the case, DO NOT under any circumstance do it as you'll only make your life more difficult.

/jabil was the one that worked when I flashed my Inspiron 8200 with a Latitude C840 BIOS....I did that so I could use a CDock II with my Inspiron. Again however, I beleive you will reap no benefit at all from flashing your E1705 with an XPS BIOS.

With and without the /forceit addition, i am told that the Bios version I am trying to flash does not match my board.

With the /jabil addition, I get the message "invalid command line parameters"

The reason I am doing this is quite simple.
My system has a 945GM chip. Since the 1705 Bios does not allow the use of the PCI-E bus to connect an external graphic board, I have some hope that the 1710 Bios will make this possible.
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post #11 of 14
4/26/06 at 9:47am
I don't think that the video card connector has the same routing on the integrated solution, so I'm pretty darn confident you're going to be SOL. (Not to mention the 1710 bios won't be designed to support the 945GM, most likely)
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post #12 of 14
4/26/06 at 10:21am
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post #13 of 14
4/26/06 at 11:15am
How can you tell if the routing is the same? have you xrayed the board? I know my company produces boards that are different (but would look the same on the outside)...

In any case, good luck, cause I'm sure if you do pull it off a lot of people would be quite happy!
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post #14 of 14
4/26/06 at 3:40pm
The 9300 could be loaded with an XPS 2 BIOS because it was hacked to ignore the system check - I believe it only involved changing two bytes (although I don't know enough to find out which two bytes myself). The person who did it is called Hazridi.
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