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ER6 died after 1.5 years of service. need new buds.

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
So I bought my ER6 a while back, about 18 months they served me, longer than any other pair of headphones i ever head. Awkwardly enough they were also the most COMFORTABLE pair of buds i ever had (while i could wear "regular" buds for up to 2 hours, ipod buds only 20 minutes in comfort, these lasted me upwards to 6 hours of non-stop tunnage). In any case, due to cable damage, and seeing as I am out of warranty, I need new phones.

Here are the requirements:
-buds (or small / light to carry with mp3 player)
-lets try to keep it around $100. i know there are some nice ones for $400, but i just don't have that much $ right now.
- black would be nice since my iriver is black (dont wanna color clash)
- comfort would also be pretty nice i figure.

otherwise i am open to suggestions... any brand is welcome (except KOSS.. )
post #2 of 16
Why not repair the cable?

Yea for basic soldering. Its not all that difficult and a useful skill to have anyways.

Seablade
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
well, first it would help to know where the damange occured exactly. its not like its a clear rip. furthermore i believe its actually where the bud joins the cable at what i guess you'd call a base, perhaps even just inside the outter shell of the headphone. if
post #4 of 16
You could try Shure Pro HeadPhones. at www.shurestore.com/earphones/index.html. find the ones you want and call some of the Pro audio stores they will be a better deal. They start around 100 and go up from there depending on what you want to spend.
post #5 of 16
Heh you can always replace the connector ABF. 1/8" connectors typically dont run to much, and just requires a bit of soldering and some patience. Steady hands a bonus but not required, trust me I am living proof.

Seablade

Think soldering 1/8" connectors are bad? Try soldering TA4F connecteors with multiple resistors contained within the connector itself, or of course go with a DB-25 connector and want to shoot someone by the time it is over
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
its not the connector seablade. like i said, i have no idea exactly where they are damaged. that said, took a look at www.headphone.com yesterday and kinda liking Ultimate Ear 5EB... however they are $200, on eBay roughly $150 so i think i can manage is they are worth it, if they are not, should i get just replacement ER6....they are something like $80 now :-\
post #7 of 16
It depends on how particular you are about the sound signature. The UE5 EB's are bassmonsters that lack a lot in the upper range, which is the polar opposite as your er6's, which are a very detailed headphone with a lot of treble and not too much bass.

The ultimate ears phones also sit much differently in your ears than the ety's. The ety's are very small and sit deep in your ear canals, while the UE's are the largest canalphones I've seen, have a larger barrel that goes in your ear, and sit much more shallowly in your ear canal.

I'm not saying you won't like them, but just be aware of how different they are from your er6's. If you like the sound of the er6's, I definitely recommend the er6i's. They now sell them in black, and I think they are great canalphones. Another you might look at is the Shure e3 (grey) or e3g (black) (here).

If you don't already know of www.head-fi.org, check out the for sale forum, people are often selling almost-new headphones for cheap. Here's an ad for someone selling black er6i's. I warn you, though, if you start reading the forum, you'll never be happy with another set of headphones and will eventually spend hundreds of dollars. So get in and get out, if you go.
post #8 of 16
I suggest you up your budget to around $150-200, as it is the sweet spot for IEM type earphones. Heres a summarized version of the IEM's I recommend within the price range:

Shure E4 = Neutral sounding (my personal favorite)

Ultimate Ears 5EB = Strong bass, the highs are a bit rolled off though.

Etymotic E4RP/S = Nice, detailed sound, some say its a bit lacking in bass. Depends on the music you listen to.




Or if you want to go the cheap route. Get some Koss KSC-75's, they destroy all of the IEM's that I posted above for only $20 (Yeah.. seriously)
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
i listed to dance music mostly (trance, house, progressive, acid, etc etc.... mostly trance/vocal trance and house though) so i'd say bass is important, but not overly so.

whats the big difference between er6 and er6i?

and i guess the 5EB are out, i have kinda small ear canals so even the er6 pose a challenge sometime....

one thing that absolutely ticks me off about the ER6 is the fact that you can hear the cable rubbing against the shirt.... or hell, just about against anything. and that uber-thin cable ... gotta be careful with it.

i really wouldn't object to trying the Shure EC3 or whatnot, maybe even the ER EP4 (if i can find another $50), but if all is crap then ER6i it is.... rubbing shirt or not.


edit:
after some searching and reading (especially on misticriver to see if the er6i make any favor to the irivier), this pretty much sums it up.

ER6 - good detail, a bit low on bass, flimsy wire. probably the best deal for the money (~$80)
ER6i - was ment to fix the high rolloff on the ipod, doesn't do any favor to the iriver, just butchers the detail that ER6 offers.
Shure E2 - bargain basement IEMs. will do the job, but rolls off the highs, and adds some fake sounding bass.
Shure E3 - well-rounded IEMs. About on par with ER6, except for a thicker cable (yey!) and more bass. Does tend to roll of highs a little more.
ER4 - detail detail detail! probably the most expensive of the bunch, might be weak bass, small wire.

Ultimate Ears are out of the equation for being quite large.
More higher-end IEMs are out because of $$$.

so i guess at this point i have to make up my mind between

Shure E3 (blacK)
ER6 (just replace my old one)
ER4 -- more expensive, but great detail, look pretty comfortable too.


and just so you guys know, i am not bent on IEMs. I am willing to ponder other designs. But lets be honest here, buds are horrible when it comes to highs, anything beyond midrange is just ungodly poor. "street" style are acceptable i suppose, but there are very few with ok sound. then we have the huge cans, but lets be honest, nobody likes to carry around headphones 3x bigger than your player.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
i think i am liking the ER-4P ... now to find the best price. so far $180 is best i can find on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Etymotic-ER4...hippingPayment

the shipping charge is $20, but there is a $20 coupon to make up for it.

....if you see a better price within the next day or 2, let me know!
post #11 of 16
My personally Favorites are the E3 and the E4. You can get both for a cheap amount. I bought the E3 for roughly 90 around the web and the E4 for not much more. I owne da pair of ER6i and I feel both offer many imrpovements over the pair youve been using.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
from what i am reading, the over-the-ear design and a thicker cable on the shure plugs get rid of the annoying rubbing on the shirt make noise deal..... also makes it a bit sturdier i suppose, but well, thats what ya gonna get. the E2 are bargain basement, not even worth talking about really. The E3, my friend ahs a set he uses with his ipod, i didn't actually try them out (though now i think i should have) but just looking at them, the design looked not very comfortable compared to my ER6.

In terms of E4, better headphone than the ER6 and E3, sure it is. The price i am finding on that one is in the $150 range... the ER-4P is in the $180 range. Benefits to the Shure... better cable, better build, more bass. The downside... rolls off the highs. The ER4.... better detail, less bass, thinner cables... perhaps more easily damaged.
post #13 of 16
i had a chance to compare my e2's with the e3, and I honestly couldn't tell much difference. sure the e2's a little murky upstairs and the e3's a little better, but the difference isn't that big. especially when you consider the e3's cost 50% more.
post #14 of 16
To give a little about my canalphone journey, I've owned the e2c, westone um2, er6i, UE sf5pro, e4, and er4s (in that order). Out of all of them, I've kept the e4 and the er6i.

The er6i was meant to help the low end rolloff of the ipod. They are more sensitive than the er6's and they have a little bit more bass, but otherwise have the same detail. I've never heard anyone say the er6i's butchered the er6 sound before; most people prefer the er6i's to the er6's, but I haven't heard both, so I can't comment.

For the price point, I don't think there is another canalphone that is on the same level in terms of accuracy and detail as the er6i's. (The same may be true for the er6's, I don't know.) I didn't keep them over the the um2 and sf5pro because they're cheaper, I kept them because I think they are better headphones.

The er4's are a good step up from the er6/i's. They have amazing accuracy and detail. Most people who become happy er4 users will never be satisfied with any other canalphone. However, I couldn't deal with their ergonomics. They didn't feel stable in my ear, and they stuck out, making them uncomfortable and making me look like Frankenstein. I also thought they made listening to the music unenjoyable...but my biggest problem was the comfort. That was just my experience though.

I actually use the b&o a8's most of the time, though, because I need non-isolating and non-leaking headphones. Not worth $160, but they are the best sounding earbuds I've heard.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
jmmm... i think where the er6 and er6i have a noticable change in performance depends on the player. the iriver has a much more powerful amp than the ipod, thus it played just well on the er6. once you boost the sensitivity to the er6i apperantly that does kill some detail in favor of a more beefy bass. so perhaps because of its weaker amp the er6i do sound better on an ipod, but not on something with a better amp.

as for the er-4p .... i am liking them (except i dont know how comfort is....whereas i've never seen a pair in person), but at $180 vs er6 for $90 thats 200%.....they better be 200% the headphone er6 is.
post #16 of 16
Alright, you're the one who will listen to them, get what you think you will like.

But, I believe the ipod has a more powerful amp than the irivers (30 vs 18mW). Just take opinions you read online with a grain of salt. Placebo is a very powerful thing, especially in audio. The er4p is a good choice, though, hopefully you will enjoy them.
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