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Review: Asus W5F Reviewed

post #1 of 19
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I just finished writing a review on the Asus W5F 12" laptop over at PC Perspective. Since laptops are still a relatively new area for us, we'd like to hear your input.

Update: 4/28/2006

I'm serious about soliciting input and I'm not just here to pimp articles or get view-hits.

Laptops is something we're getting into and we would like to hear input especially from the community. We have a notebook/mobile forum ourselves, but it lacks the critical mass like here. So we do appreciate contructive feedback.

Here are some excerpts from the review in case you didn't want to click the link to read it.



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The LCD is covered with a glossy anti-glare screen which Asus calls "Color Shine", and if you've used any modern LCD you will know that this kind of coating has different names depending on the company. The Color Shine coating helps improve the colors of the LCD screen while reducing glare. I find this kind of coating does create better color, but at the expense of a smaller view angle and increasing reflections from surrounding objects.

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While some manufacturers like using the front of the laptop for connections, the Asus W5F doesn't have any. I'm undecided whether this is a waste of usable space, or if it's a wise design decision as you won't have cables tangling you up. When the lid is closed, the activity lights are still visible so you can see what the laptop is doing.

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The optical tray causes some concern as the tray is wobbly and feels very fragile when opened. Since a significant amount of force is required to properly place a CD onto the drive's axle, you should probably be careful not to break the tray and support it on a hard surface like a desk or the arm of a chair.


Another potential problem is the integrated web camera. Since you can swivel the camera 180 degrees, you may risk damaging if you rotate it the wrong way or if you transport the laptop with lens facing outwards. However all of this can be avoided by being careful and knowing how to operate the camera properly.

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Even though the heat generated from the CPU is very warm, Asus has managed to keep the body of the laptop reasonably cool. The right side of the laptop does get a bit warmer than the rest so if you perspire easily, best to find a surface to put the W5F instead of on your lap.

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Cooling on the Asus W5F is significantly better than the Compaq V2410 in every respect. The hard drive idles at a lower temperature despite having a higher RPM than the 4200 RPM in the Compaq. Loaded HDD temperatures are very reasonable and close to temperatures you would see on a typical desktop HDD. The loaded hard drive temperature of 52 C on the V2410 is just plain scary.

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RAM is only upgradable by one module. This means that your options for upgrading RAM is limited to a maximum of 1 GB for a total of 1.5 GB including the 512MB onboard. Getting dual channel to work optimally will be a challenge since it will be hard to perfectly match the onboard RAM.

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On a full load, the W5F lasts 1 hour and 38 minutes which is a far cry from the advertised 4 hours. However, under a more reasonable office load and DVD playback, you get over 3 hours. Recharging time is reasonably quick at 2 hours and 15 minutes.

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As far as an ultra-portable laptop goes, the Asus W5F has everything and then some -- an integrated camera, a bonus Blue Tooth mouse, and even digital audio output. Sure it does not play games very well, but I challenge you to find a 12.1" laptop that does! The fact is the W5F isn't marketed as a gaming laptop and it has a lot more to offer than gameplay anyway.

Not only does it come on strong with features, the W5F is stylish and classy. It's a definite attention magnet, so you better be prepared for friends and co-workers asking to play with it and pick it up off your desk. Weighing under 5 lbs, you will want to bring it everywhere with you, and with strong battery saving modes that can stretch your lifeline to 3 hours.
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The only serious problem I see with the Asus W5F is that there is only one SODIMM slot for you to place a RAM upgrade. Some of you may not see a single SODIMM as a problem, but others will. It's unfortunate that there is this limitation since everything else about the W5F is spot on.

The review on our site has a bit more detail on performance (benchmarks), pictures, and details on usability etc. You can catch that here:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=239


- Jon.
post #2 of 19
The extended review was great, thanks heaps.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks.

Did you find there was enough detail? Too much? Too little?
Performance testing was useful? What about battery, audio, and screen?

Was it too technical or not enough?

So many questions!
post #4 of 19
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I've updated the first post with excerpts from the review. Your thoughts are appreciated.

BTW. "Nice review!" comments make my ego swell, but it doesn't help us write better articles. So if you have ideas or specific comments of what we did well or poorly, I want to hear it.

Thanks again you guys for letting me post this here.

- Jon.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jon H
I've updated the first post with excerpts from the review. Your thoughts are appreciated.

BTW. "Nice review!" comments make my ego swell, but it doesn't help us write better articles. So if you have ideas or specific comments of what we did well or poorly, I want to hear it.

Thanks again you guys for letting me post this here.

- Jon.
I noticed in your 3DMark reports that you mixed up the overall score and CPU score for 3DMark05 (I don't believe for a second the W5f got over 3000 3DMarks ) Other than that, it honestly was a great review. Using multiple applications to test battery life and testing the heat of various parts of the notebook were both definite plusses, and help give a more complete picture of the notebook. Good job!
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by Djembe
I noticed in your 3DMark reports that you mixed up the overall score and CPU score for 3DMark05 (I don't believe for a second the W5f got over 3000 3DMarks ) Other than that, it honestly was a great review. Using multiple applications to test battery life and testing the heat of various parts of the notebook were both definite plusses, and help give a more complete picture of the notebook. Good job!

Good eye. Thanks for catching that.

One of the things I struggled with was the wireless testing. There's no real good way of measuring performance of that over a long distance. I live near powerlines, so that definitely doesn't help. Any thoughts on how that can be improved?

The Compaq V2410 is my personal laptop and I think I learned more about my laptop than I did the W5F. The heat on the HDD was a definite surprise.
post #7 of 19
I'm actually putting an order in for a w5f on Monday for my wife, thanks to this review

As for me, I'm tossing up between the w3j and a6jm.
post #8 of 19
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Thanks. Let me know what you and your wife think of the laptop when you do get it.

Looks like Dell is going to be launching a 12" laptop with a X1300 or a Go 7300. Much better graphics solution than the GMA 950 on the W5F.
post #9 of 19
Are you planning to buy a 9 cell battery? I was thinking of getting a W5F with a 9 cell, but I'm not sure what the battery life would be if I just surf the net and use Microsoft Office and maybe watch the occasional DVD.

Also have you tried downclocking the processor and test to see what the improvement in battery life would be like?

Not a lot of people bought W5F's and it would be great if you can provide us with such numbers. Thanks!
post #10 of 19
Great review dude, I Enjoyed it. Now i might consider buying a W5F..
post #11 of 19
I've got the W5F now, seems to run well. Haven't tested the battery though, just been surfing the web.
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by astroboydivx
I've got the W5F now, seems to run well. Haven't tested the battery though, just been surfing the web.

Which battery did you get with it? My friend is trying to track down a 9-cell battery but is having problems finding one.

I wonder if the W5A battery is compatible?

- Jon.

PS. The M1210 looks pretty awesome for a 12". I for one would certainly enjoy some portable gaming.
post #13 of 19

Review's right on...

I recently purchased an Asus W5F, before I read your review. But I agree with everything you've said and have enjoyed it so far.

I assume as you increase your library of laptop reviews you will have more models to compare in your benchmarks, which would help alot looking at how various laptops perform...

Something interesting with my laptop, I bought it in Malaysia, the shop advertised it as having 667 mhz ram and an 80gb 5400 harddisk. It has 533 ram and a 4200 harddisk

Something interesting to me would be a future update on upgradeability of the laptop. As the Core Due CPU's are replaced and they decrease in price, I assume I can put in a T2600 and get a nice boost in performance. Maybe a guide on how to replace a laptop CPU?
post #14 of 19
The one I have is 100gb 5400 and Core Duo T2400 1.8ghz and 1gb of ram. It's from Taiwan.

Not sure about the battery, it's model number is W5-3224.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by ridin8ude
Something interesting with my laptop, I bought it in Malaysia, the shop advertised it as having 667 mhz ram and an 80gb 5400 harddisk. It has 533 ram and a 4200 harddisk

Really? The model I received for review from Asus had 533 MHz RAM (soldered to the PCB) and a 5400 RPM disk. At least the HDD is easily upgradable if you need to replace it.

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Originally Posted by ridin8ude
Something interesting to me would be a future update on upgradeability of the laptop. As the Core Due CPU's are replaced and they decrease in price, I assume I can put in a T2600 and get a nice boost in performance. Maybe a guide on how to replace a laptop CPU?

That's a good idea. I'll see what we can do about that. It'd be more interesting to try to upgrade to a Merom / Core2Duo when they're available and see if the W5F takes to it like a heart transplant.

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Originally Posted by astroboydivx
The one I have is 100gb 5400 and Core Duo T2400 1.8ghz and 1gb of ram. It's from Taiwan.

Not sure about the battery, it's model number is W5-3224.

When did you buy this laptop? I know that Asus is currently updating their specs on some of their recent laptops, so perhaps you got one of those?
post #16 of 19
does the integrated camera come with software to take pictures and record video? i'm going to have my s96j soon and i'm not sure if there's any software on the CDs to control the webcam. tia
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by Lazy7689
does the integrated camera come with software to take pictures and record video? i'm going to have my s96j soon and i'm not sure if there's any software on the CDs to control the webcam. tia

Yes there is software for the camera for photos and video - it's called LifeFrame. You can probably download it from the Asus website as well.
post #18 of 19
can someone give me a direct link from the asus website or where i can downloa this LifeFrame software? i can't find it from the website or from my bundled CDs. i'm using the driver software (BisonCam NB Pro) and it sucks
post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 
Try this.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...anguage=en-us#

Under the Utilities tab. 2nd item.
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